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Tom Cruise
Denmark482 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:14 askTeivospy wrote: not being able to find hardcopy of something is probably the only reasonable excuse to pirate that try before you buy excuse just makes me lol though makes me wonder if people steal food to try it before they buy it the next time they're out shopping, too. edit: typo. | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On August 08 2012 18:53 Critter wrote: + Show Spoiler + As I've already said, I'd love to pay for and support Game of Thrones when each new season comes out. However, the only option they give me to do such is to purchase cable, and then a special bundle on top of that coming out to around ~$120 a month... just to watch one show. If they sold access to just HBOGO, I'd buy it. If they sold each episode online after the TV premier, I'd buy it. They don't (or at least didn't for the first 2 season, hopefully they learn by season 3). When the box sets come out, I buy them. I bought season 1 the day it was released, and will do the same with season 2. So tell me where in here I'm costing them money? I'd gladly pay them to watch the show when it's new, but they don't provide anywhere near a reasonable service. So I pirate the show, and support it when the DVD's (blu-rays) come out. The issue here is a failure in service. Again, I WANT to support HBO, I WANT to support GoT, but they force me to wait almost a year to do it. And they put a pricetag on the "not having to wait". Exclusivity / Early access is costing more. But you just dont want to pay said price. Same is true for those "60 buck games". Just wait 6months - 4years, check sales (steam) and you'll be able to get most of it very cheap. Sure I see the point of "If they offer an online solution, for i.e. people who dont live in the US and cannot access HBO at all, they'd make more money" - but in the end it's their product and they should have (imho) the right to tell people "sucks for you". | ||
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:14 askTeivospy wrote: not being able to find hardcopy of something is probably the only reasonable excuse to pirate that try before you buy excuse just makes me lol though My thoughts exactly... | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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DidYuhim
Ukraine1905 Posts
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starfries
Canada3508 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:26 Sated wrote: Meanwhile, I can say, "sucks for you that I can pirate it instead of bending to your ridiculous terms". If companies don't adapt, people will keep pirating, and they will only have themselves to blame. you could also just not buy it? it's not like you NEED to have the product. honestly, if you're gonna pirate, then no one's gonna stop you. but don't go around acting like you're doing people favours by pirating. | ||
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Sephy90
United States1785 Posts
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Critter
United States196 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:18 Zocat wrote: And they put a pricetag on the "not having to wait". Exclusivity / Early access is costing more. But you just dont want to pay said price. Same is true for those "60 buck games". Just wait 6months - 4years, check sales (steam) and you'll be able to get most of it very cheap. Sure I see the point of "If they offer an online solution, for i.e. people who dont live in the US and cannot access HBO at all, they'd make more money" - but in the end it's their product and they should have (imho) the right to tell people "sucks for you". Sure, they have the right to spit in paying customers faces, but it's bad business and gains them no sympathy from me. What I do (pirate the shows on release, then buy the blu-rays when they come out) costs HBO nothing. The only difference between this and having a friend tape it for me, or going to his house to watch it live/on DVR, is that I get it an hour after the show is released instead of another time. What HBO does (refuses to offer a reasonable price by expecting me to pay ~$360 for one show) is costing them money. I've said I'd gladly pay for HBOGO if they offered it to non-cable purchasers, and I'd gladly pay a reasonable price on a per episode basis, but no where in the market is $36 a reasonable price for one episode of TV. Sure, it's their right to set that, but that just means I'm going to pirate and mourn only the fact that HBO doesn't give a reasonable way to support them. | ||
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Ruscour
5233 Posts
Sad news, internet "laws" really need a revamp because it seems that it's just a shitfest on every side because there's nothing clearly defined. | ||
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yoshi245
United States2969 Posts
On August 08 2012 05:31 acker wrote: Someday people in high places will realize that shutting down torrent sites is a useless and futile endeavor. Or maybe someday legislators will be able to pass another SOPA somehow. As long as corporations can funnel countless funds to politicians and no real campaign finance reform is passed (Citizens United opened the flood gates), there will always be these type of legislative attempts where a SOPA spin-off will try to be passed a few times a per year or so. As a user of Demonoid in the past, all I can say is RIP to it  | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
On August 08 2012 16:22 R3DT1D3 wrote: There's a difference between pirating because you have no other realistic means and pirating because you don't want to pay. The problem is that there's no way to distinguish would be customers and people who just want to have their cake and eat it too. There is no problem, because you can still make profits, and the number of people who would buy things if they couldn't get them for free is complete conjecture. I for one would simply not watch most things. I pirated Firefly because I heard it was good. I now own the box set, I went to see Serenity in the theater, and own that DVD as well. Without pirating, they would have $0. Now they have something over $100. | ||
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:15 Tom Cruise wrote: makes me wonder if people steal food to try it before they buy it the next time they're out shopping, too. edit: typo. What a fucking terrible analogy. Stealing food and eating it destroys the food. How about trying pants on before you buy them? How about borrowing a shirt from a friend and wearing it for a day and deciding you like how it looks? | ||
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Sated
England4983 Posts
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On August 08 2012 20:08 yeint wrote: What a fucking terrible analogy. Stealing food and eating it destroys the food. How about trying pants on before you buy them? How about borrowing a shirt from a friend and wearing it for a day and deciding you like how it looks? Still bad, you'll never actually own the pants/shirt until you buy it. Someone will want it back and you'll have to give it to them, whereas this album I pirated? Dont have to pay a cent, dont have to give it back, etc. I pirate stuff all the time and even I think some of these excuses are so lol that it makes me sad. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On August 08 2012 19:15 Tom Cruise wrote: makes me wonder if people steal food to try it before they buy it the next time they're out shopping, too. edit: typo. Because a infinitely replicable medium that has practically no cost to do so is of course the exact same thing as food. If you really think that way than you have no idea what your talking about and the problematic behind the laws that we currently have in place. | ||
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CaptainCrush
United States785 Posts
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
 It's ok to be conservative, delusional and to refuse change, really. On August 08 2012 17:56 maartendq wrote: So basically you're angry because the government shut down a service that allowed you to illegally download (read: steal) stuff? Talk about being a hypocrite. it wasn't hypocrite in the slightest. talk about making up random bs. Besides when u steal something, it's gone. stealing isn't the same thing as copying. He's making more sense than you. | ||
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aCePikNik
United States69 Posts
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yeint
Estonia2329 Posts
On August 08 2012 20:14 Jojo131 wrote: Still bad, you'll never actually own the pants/shirt until you buy it. Someone will want it back and you'll have to give it to them, whereas this album I pirated? Dont have to pay a cent, dont have to give it back, etc. I pirate stuff all the time and even I think some of these excuses are so lol that it makes me sad. They only want it back because they don't have a shirt while you're keeping it. The relevant part of the analogy is that nothing is removed from the original owner. | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On August 08 2012 20:29 aCePikNik wrote: So did the investigators copy the user database? I had like over 1.5tb uploaded and close to 900gb downloaded and I live in the US. Hopefully I don't get a knock on my door. And I had gotten a few notifications from my ISP of copyright infringement. Makes me sorta paranoid, but that may be for other reasons.. you know they did. and since they did this for the US, the FBI has the DB by now 100% sure. | ||
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