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Notfragile
Profile Joined April 2011
Greece713 Posts
July 04 2012 07:21 GMT
#201
I have to remind you about this post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=274834
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Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
July 04 2012 07:21 GMT
#202
On July 04 2012 16:19 Sandtrout wrote:
I think judging from the introduction (how it was held) it is rather likely they can confirm the Higgs boson. But let's see.


They have found it. The news was already announced at particle physics research institutes a few days ago.
Such flammable little insects!
DooMeR
Profile Joined July 2003
United States1519 Posts
July 04 2012 07:21 GMT
#203
On July 04 2012 16:19 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 16:19 buscettn wrote:
A Higgs-Boson walks into a church, the priest says “We don’t allow Higgs-Bosons in here.”
The Higgs-Boson says “But without me how can you have mass?"


LOL


LOL JOLLY GOOD
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
July 04 2012 07:21 GMT
#204
On July 04 2012 16:19 Uncultured wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 04 2012 16:17 kingjames01 wrote:
Now, he's explaining how they know what they're looking at when they look at the data that they gather.

Basically, they compare to simulations and then they know if they're looking at electrons, or other things.




Man, you really aren't helping at all. I understand the speaker more than you, which makes me wonder if you know what you're talking about at all.


I'm trying to type while making notes as fast as I can. If you understand the talk, then don't read what I'm writing. If you disagree with what I'm writing, then you should post.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Mowr
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden791 Posts
July 04 2012 07:21 GMT
#205
On July 04 2012 16:20 IronManSC wrote:
I don't understand any of this stuff T_T

They are just explaining the experimental setup.
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ZlyKiss
Profile Joined April 2006
Poland697 Posts
July 04 2012 07:22 GMT
#206
i think is this scientist is just aware of the significance of this event and he is stressed because of that
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
July 04 2012 07:22 GMT
#207
On July 04 2012 16:22 ZlyKiss wrote:
i think is this scientist is just aware of the significance of this event and he is stressed because of that

And he has 175 slides to go through without going over time, heh
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
July 04 2012 07:23 GMT
#208
Yeah, he's really nervous. Imagine, you were the person who was given the duty of making this announcement.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
July 04 2012 07:24 GMT
#209
So far I can say one thing for certain, that CMS seems to perform very very well
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
July 04 2012 07:24 GMT
#210
I know it's wrong, but every time he says "Monte Carlo" I have the urge to say "Hit me!"
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
July 04 2012 07:25 GMT
#211
These section of his talk are going over 1 specific channel. A channel is one way that a reaction can proceed.

I think he said that they have 5 exit channels so they have to be able to identify which channel they actually see. They do that by fitting to simulation.


Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 04 2012 07:25 GMT
#212
results almost here!
J.E.G.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States389 Posts
July 04 2012 07:26 GMT
#213
sounds like they are overusing some kind of broadcast limiter on his voice. breaths are as loud as his words
Do or do not; there is no try.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
July 04 2012 07:26 GMT
#214
Sucks how my connection sucks to much for me to see the stream... Plz live-report!
I guess the slides are not public yet.
Who is giving the seminar?
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
July 04 2012 07:26 GMT
#215
On July 04 2012 16:24 Al Bundy wrote:
So far I can say one thing for certain, that CMS seems to perform very very well



This is basically what he's describing. How they've managed to fine tune their measurements using other variables in the standard model to a very fine degree. Then with this as a sort of barometer they are able to search for the Higgs particle with high accuracy.
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
July 04 2012 07:26 GMT
#216
hehe, yeah, Monte Carlo is the term used to describe simulations that rely on probability.

You basically tell the computer everything that can happen at each step and what the odds are for each process. Then you let the computer do its thing many, many, many times.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 07:27:49
July 04 2012 07:26 GMT
#217
So, say they did find it, what would it mean? I don't really know much about the higgs particle.
Maruprime.
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-04 07:28:26
July 04 2012 07:26 GMT
#218
That guy in the crowd looks like Doa

nm; reading is good
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
Velocirapture
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States983 Posts
July 04 2012 07:27 GMT
#219
On July 04 2012 16:24 Al Bundy wrote:
So far I can say one thing for certain, that CMS seems to perform very very well


If they did not go through every calibration then naysayers would be all over them. Due diligence is a huge part of good science since data without context is useless. After all, we remember the 'neutrinos faster than light' frenzy.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6169 Posts
July 04 2012 07:28 GMT
#220
On July 04 2012 16:26 kingjames01 wrote:
hehe, yeah, Monte Carlo is the term used to describe simulations that rely on probability.

You basically tell the computer everything that can happen at each step and what the odds are for each process. Then you let the computer do its thing many, many, many times.


Oh, I understand what he's talking about with regard to the Monte Carlo. But I can't stop myself from thinking about cards.
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