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On October 17 2012 11:45 Deathmanbob wrote:
translation, obama won. Did he win by enough? thats the question This is exactly right. I'm not sure that it was a big enough win. We will see though.
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On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business. You gotta consider the messenger when you say these sorts of things xDaunt. You open yourself up to easy quips. 
Edit: Here we go...
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On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business.
Also, up is down, black is white, and bacon is good for you.
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On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business.
Does that include Megan Kelly?
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On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business.
ha
On October 17 2012 11:51 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business. Does that include Megan Kelly?
she spells it megyn. never trust a woman who spells her name stupid
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On October 17 2012 11:50 mynameisgreat11 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business. Also, up is down, black is white, and bacon is good for you.
Damn straight it is.
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On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business.
fox only sucks on opinon news. Sheperd smith is still one of the best in the world at what he does.
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CBC Canada put it best:
It was an even exchange on a number of questions.
Some leaned one way others leaned the other.
Overall:
Obama seemed more presidential. He would defend himself, and hold himself in a confident and outgoing manner.
Obama was more consistent, while Romney changed his position a little more often and wasn't as strong in his presentation as last time.
Overall Obama had a better debate, but both had their strengths and weaknesses.
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On October 17 2012 11:51 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business. Does that include Megan Kelly? Hey, she is the hottest news anchor on TV. That definitely makes up for her other deficits (I don't really like her).
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On October 17 2012 11:50 mynameisgreat11 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business. Also, up is down, black is white, and bacon is good for you.
No, he's right. Fox isn't biased 100% of the time, and they do have a few good analysts. Plus, I think anyone who's worked in politics knows this went slightly to Obama.
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On October 17 2012 11:52 BluePanther wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:50 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business. Also, up is down, black is white, and bacon is good for you. No, he's right. Fox isn't biased 100% of the time, and they do have a few good analysts. Plus, I think anyone who's worked in politics knows this went slightly to Obama.
Lol, that's your defense? "Fox isn't biased 100% of the time"?
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On October 17 2012 11:49 I_Love_Bacon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:46 theNational. wrote: I know debates generally have a "winner" and "loser" but I find it so strange how ingrained those two words are in american politics. Canadian debates do have a "winner" but there purpose serves as more of an educational tool whereas in the states it's almost just another american idol contest. What I find even more strange is how even really educated, smart, informed Americans often seem to look at politics through this vale. I guess it's a result of two party politics? It's about the companies making money. They want everything to be a contest and as "close" as possible. It increases rating and advertisement prices so they can milk more and more money out of it. Basically - MEDIA BAAAAD
That makes sense. But I still don't really get how one of the most educated countries in the world lets them get away with something like this... It really is a different culture than Canada.
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On October 17 2012 11:53 mynameisgreat11 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:52 BluePanther wrote:On October 17 2012 11:50 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business. Also, up is down, black is white, and bacon is good for you. No, he's right. Fox isn't biased 100% of the time, and they do have a few good analysts. Plus, I think anyone who's worked in politics knows this went slightly to Obama. Lol, that's your defense? "Fox isn't biased 100% of the time"?
It's not really a defense. I'm just saying it's not impossible for them to be fair every now and then.
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Obama did better than his first one, and personally it was telling that Romney looked about the same, which is average. Obama can step it up, and Romney, apparently, can't.
Decent debate and Obama was much more poised and aggressive, calling out Romney on a number of things he has said in the past. Not sure the time was divided equally though, Romney seemed to get a little less from what I saw. Obama noted Obamacare was based on Romney's Massachusetts health plan, I didn't see him refuting that.
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fox has come a fair way from the glen beck haydays.
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On October 17 2012 11:53 mynameisgreat11 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:52 BluePanther wrote:On October 17 2012 11:50 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business. Also, up is down, black is white, and bacon is good for you. No, he's right. Fox isn't biased 100% of the time, and they do have a few good analysts. Plus, I think anyone who's worked in politics knows this went slightly to Obama. Lol, that's your defense? "Fox isn't biased 100% of the time"?
fox is only biased from 5-9 PST(and the rebrodcast) and fox and friends. Everyone who does actual news and not opinon is pretty good at their jobs
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On October 17 2012 11:54 BluePanther wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:53 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 17 2012 11:52 BluePanther wrote:On October 17 2012 11:50 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business. Also, up is down, black is white, and bacon is good for you. No, he's right. Fox isn't biased 100% of the time, and they do have a few good analysts. Plus, I think anyone who's worked in politics knows this went slightly to Obama. Lol, that's your defense? "Fox isn't biased 100% of the time"? It's not really a defense. I'm just saying it's not impossible for them to be fair every now and then.
theyve been known to accidently let some facts out from time to time.
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On October 17 2012 11:53 mynameisgreat11 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:52 BluePanther wrote:On October 17 2012 11:50 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business. Also, up is down, black is white, and bacon is good for you. No, he's right. Fox isn't biased 100% of the time, and they do have a few good analysts. Plus, I think anyone who's worked in politics knows this went slightly to Obama. Lol, that's your defense? "Fox isn't biased 100% of the time"?
I think his logic is that if you dont count the hosts of almost every show they have than the actual reporting isnt biased which is true but usually after the report you have a couple minutes of host explaining what we just heard (which is biased).
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On October 17 2012 11:55 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 11:53 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 17 2012 11:52 BluePanther wrote:On October 17 2012 11:50 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 17 2012 11:49 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:48 JinDesu wrote:On October 17 2012 11:47 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 11:46 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: FOX calling it a draw? Not really. They are tipping it to Obama. THAT is surprising. For Fox, I'd expect more "Insult Romney over Obama" than "Give Obama any sort of nod" Fox isn't as biased as advertised. Their Special Report team that handles these debates is the best in the business. Also, up is down, black is white, and bacon is good for you. No, he's right. Fox isn't biased 100% of the time, and they do have a few good analysts. Plus, I think anyone who's worked in politics knows this went slightly to Obama. Lol, that's your defense? "Fox isn't biased 100% of the time"? I think his logic is that if you dont count the hosts of almost every show they have than the actual reporting isnt biased which is true but usually after the report you have a couple minutes of host explaining what we just heard (which is biased).
Depends on the group. I don't watch FOX much, i prefer CNN (I like getting my news from slightly left of center). Fox has a number of very biased hosts. But not all of them are hyper-spinners.
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