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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
October 17 2012 02:22 GMT
#16921
Yay. Fast and Furious got brought up.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 17 2012 02:22 GMT
#16922
On October 17 2012 11:21 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
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On October 17 2012 11:20 either I or wrote:
Obama look like he aged 10 years after his 4-year term. What the US presidency can do to someone. I remember meeting him in the collegiate in CA four years ago and honestly, he looked like a cool late 30s dude. He looks ancient now.


Have you seen the pictures of Abraham Lincoln? Being president durring the US Civil War destroyed him


also, people often serve as president in that period of their lives where they start to begin looking old. fifties to sixties, people start getting real wrinkly.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 17 2012 02:22 GMT
#16923
Mitt signed an assault weapons ban while he was Governor.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
October 17 2012 02:22 GMT
#16924
On October 17 2012 11:20 NPF wrote:
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On October 17 2012 11:18 On_Slaught wrote:
What did Romney sayyyy that caused the moderator to say something?!?!


He said Obama didn't call it a terrorist attack (the Libya incident). And he wanted to show Obama stated it wrongly at the debate and the moderator corrected Romeny that Obama phrasing was always consistent. Bassically Romney tried to call Obama out and eneded up saying something false.


that's incorrect.

Romney claimed Obama didn't call it a "act of terror" when he meant to say he didn't call it a "terrorist attack". Obama did say the first, but framed as a "tragic moment" type thing instead of an assassination, which is what Romney was trying to get at. Romney just used the wrong words.
either I or
Profile Joined September 2012
116 Posts
October 17 2012 02:22 GMT
#16925
Obama has the advantage on this kind of debates. He has the natural open persona about him and he has the Presidential experience to talk to a crowd in this scenario. Romney is apparently off his bowl.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
October 17 2012 02:22 GMT
#16926
what are you going to do about gun laws? FAST AND FURIOUS!!!!! drift! drift! drift!
No Artosis, you are robin
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
October 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#16927
On October 17 2012 11:19 xDaunt wrote:
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On October 17 2012 11:18 BluePanther wrote:
Romney was right, but he used the wrong phrasing and it made him look like an idiot.

I have no idea what he was thinking. He got too clever for himself.


That couldn't have possibly have gone better for Obama. Mind=blown.
GTPGlitch
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
5061 Posts
October 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#16928
Rofl, Romney is going off the rails
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cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
October 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#16929
On October 17 2012 11:21 SpiritAshura wrote:
Question: AUTOMATIC RIFLES AK 47s OMG
Romney: My schools are awesome

...


He's saying that an educated populace, or a citizenry that puts school at the top of their priorities, will keep crime down.
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HardlyNever
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1258 Posts
October 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#16930
The fuck is Romney droning on about...

Out there, the Kid learned to fend for himself. Learned to build. Learned to break.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#16931
Mexico about to be brought up...?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#16932
On October 17 2012 11:21 SpiritAshura wrote:
Question: AUTOMATIC RIFLES AK 47s OMG
Romney: My schools are awesome

...


Nah, his point is valid (beating the violence culture via improved education), the question is just silly and hard to answer.
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
October 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#16933
Romney self destruct in 10

9

8

7...
Razakel
Profile Joined April 2011
Ireland466 Posts
October 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#16934
Good job by the moderator to reign in Romney's bullshit
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 02:24:06
October 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#16935
Romney's answers regarding his tax policies were disgusting.

This is a completely dishonest man. He says in one sentence he's just reducing rates across the board, then he says he's just reducing taxes for middle income -- he's not going to give the rich tax cuts, oh no, "I counter that with deductions".

But the woman who asked the question named some of those deductions in her question -- things like the Tax Benefits for Education deductions. The woman's question contained more specifics regarding these deductions than Romney's answer!!!

Barack counters by asking Romney, where is the math -- how do you pay for these across-the-board tax cuts, and how are they not a tax cut for the rich? He comes back with more simplistic lies -- I'm just cutting taxes for middle class families. No specifics, just a simple lie.

Republicans really've shown the concept of governance is just a game to them by electing Mitt Romney as their candidate. This is a true do-anything, say-anything SOB. This is a man who can not answer simple questions with any specifics, no matter how hard pressed into doing so. He wants to cut the Estate Tax, and he'll look at all of us and say he isn't planning to cut taxes for the rich. He can not represent his own policies truthfully -- he contradicts himself in a matter of seconds. Most Republicans will admit to their "trickle down" policies, Mitt Romney instead just pretends to be something else. Does this not disgust his own base??? No, they apparently like seeing their policies misrepresented as something almost progressive.

The guy is a true snake who really has appealed to the sound-bite generation in this debate. His whole answer on economic policy was "Don't look at my specifics, just let me tell you I'm not cutting taxes disproportionately for the wealthiest and will somehow pay for the decreased revenue by closing loopholes that don't exist."

A lot of these tax deductions that Romney is going to close aren't even for the wealthy. The tax benefits for education are something completely designed to help the lower and middle class, and those are deductions that Romney has targeted for closing. The lady even mentioned it in her question, and he just completely ignores it and talks about the middle class.

TL;DR
The truth is Romney's tax cuts will benefit the wealthy, and will result in much less revenue for the government, increasing deficits. The few deductions Romney has admitted to targeting for closing are deductions that are useful for all Americans in all tax brackets. Everything Romney said tonight about his tax policies was a complete, total, shameless fucking lie.
Big water
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#16936
On October 17 2012 11:22 Sermokala wrote:
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On October 17 2012 11:20 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On October 17 2012 11:19 Sermokala wrote:
On October 17 2012 11:17 jdseemoreglass wrote:
What's an assault weapon? No one even knows. But great question! /sarcasm.


Heavy caliber automatic weapon mostly.

Heavy caliber?

Is a semi-auto AR-15 an assault weapon?


The ar-15 is made from the base of an m-16 so yes its an assault rifle. Thats why I said mostly. Basically if they make a barrel mag for it its an assault rifle or something else fucked up.

Mostly ah... So in other words there is no real definition of an assault weapon. But it's a scary term and they LOOK scary so ban them.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
October 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#16937
Fast & Furious had nothing to do with that question. It was like he was hoping for something tangentially related to start hammering Obama on it.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
October 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#16938
On October 17 2012 11:23 Razakel wrote:
Good job by the moderator to reign in Romney's bullshit


she probably did him a favor. he was rambling.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
October 17 2012 02:24 GMT
#16939
On October 17 2012 11:22 Deathmanbob wrote:
what are you going to do about gun laws? FAST AND FURIOUS!!!!! drift! drift! drift!

Hope you are kidding and that you actually know about fast and furious
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 17 2012 02:24 GMT
#16940
Bad answer by Romney overall.

4-2-3 Obama.
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