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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 12 2012 02:38 GMT
#15361
On October 12 2012 11:36 Enchanted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:35 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:34 Enchanted wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:31 Enchanted wrote:
Did Biden just say not everyone get's a fair shot in the US ? What ?


Which is true.

No, it's not even close to being true. Any hardworking person can make it in America, if you don't believe that then you're blind.


And that's one of the core differences between a Republican and a Democrat.

I don't think it's very political believing that hard work pays off.


Yeah, unless you live in half the states in the union.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 12 2012 02:38 GMT
#15362
On October 12 2012 11:36 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:35 xDaunt wrote:
I dunno, I think that public perception of this debate is going to depend upon what people think of Biden's antics and the moderator's performance. If they don't care, then Biden wins.


XDaunt - I missed the entire thing while being at the gym, but if you are writing like this, I'm seriously thinking Biden's won it...

Even the lefties here are admitting the moderator was biased and Biden was over aggressive with Ryan's time. But they are happy about it so they won't complain much.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 12 2012 02:38 GMT
#15363
On October 12 2012 11:35 Risen wrote:
Who won? At this point, who cares. Fox News is going to have a fuckin; FIELD DAY. What does that mean? Entertainment for meeeeeeeeeeeee :D


i can't even watch fox news, it just makes me indignant at the bullshit they spew.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
October 12 2012 02:39 GMT
#15364
On October 12 2012 11:36 Enchanted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:35 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:34 Enchanted wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:31 Enchanted wrote:
Did Biden just say not everyone get's a fair shot in the US ? What ?


Which is true.

No, it's not even close to being true. Any hardworking person can make it in America, if you don't believe that then you're blind.


And that's one of the core differences between a Republican and a Democrat.

I don't think it's very political believing that hard work pays off.


So when hard work doesn't pay off, what then?
Tarot
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada440 Posts
October 12 2012 02:39 GMT
#15365
On October 12 2012 11:39 HellRoxYa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:36 Enchanted wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:35 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:34 Enchanted wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:31 Enchanted wrote:
Did Biden just say not everyone get's a fair shot in the US ? What ?


Which is true.

No, it's not even close to being true. Any hardworking person can make it in America, if you don't believe that then you're blind.


And that's one of the core differences between a Republican and a Democrat.

I don't think it's very political believing that hard work pays off.


So when hard work doesn't pay off, what then?

Blame the democrats
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
October 12 2012 02:39 GMT
#15366
On October 12 2012 11:38 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:36 JinDesu wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:35 xDaunt wrote:
I dunno, I think that public perception of this debate is going to depend upon what people think of Biden's antics and the moderator's performance. If they don't care, then Biden wins.


XDaunt - I missed the entire thing while being at the gym, but if you are writing like this, I'm seriously thinking Biden's won it...

Even the lefties here are admitting the moderator was biased and Biden was over aggressive with Ryan's time. But they are happy about it so they won't complain much.


i dont think the moderator was biased, i thought she was great at the start and shit at the end
No Artosis, you are robin
Pusekatten
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway234 Posts
October 12 2012 02:39 GMT
#15367
On October 12 2012 11:31 stevarius wrote:
"Government takeover of healthcare"


I don't want to live on this planet anymore.

Hehe
From a guy living in Norway. The fact that the goverment has almost 100% off the healthcare. I can without a doubt say I absolutely love it!
LlamaNamedOsama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1900 Posts
October 12 2012 02:39 GMT
#15368
On October 12 2012 11:36 Enchanted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:35 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:34 Enchanted wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:31 Enchanted wrote:
Did Biden just say not everyone get's a fair shot in the US ? What ?


Which is true.

No, it's not even close to being true. Any hardworking person can make it in America, if you don't believe that then you're blind.


And that's one of the core differences between a Republican and a Democrat.

I don't think it's very political believing that hard work pays off.


No, it's an uninformed view to believe that hard work will magically overcome any and all boundaries in life. Most of the working-poor work way harder than you do. Of course, you're pretty solidly set in your opinion, so I don't see this going anywhere.
Dario Wünsch: I guess...Creator...met his maker *sunglasses*
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
October 12 2012 02:39 GMT
#15369
On October 12 2012 11:38 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:36 JinDesu wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:35 xDaunt wrote:
I dunno, I think that public perception of this debate is going to depend upon what people think of Biden's antics and the moderator's performance. If they don't care, then Biden wins.


XDaunt - I missed the entire thing while being at the gym, but if you are writing like this, I'm seriously thinking Biden's won it...

Even the lefties here are admitting the moderator was biased and Biden was over aggressive with Ryan's time. But they are happy about it so they won't complain much.


Dunno bout the moderator - but isn't the time difference between Biden-Ryan better than the time difference between Obama-Romney?

Someone else scored it here within a minute or something..
Yargh
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 12 2012 02:39 GMT
#15370
On October 12 2012 11:38 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:36 JinDesu wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:35 xDaunt wrote:
I dunno, I think that public perception of this debate is going to depend upon what people think of Biden's antics and the moderator's performance. If they don't care, then Biden wins.


XDaunt - I missed the entire thing while being at the gym, but if you are writing like this, I'm seriously thinking Biden's won it...

Even the lefties here are admitting the moderator was biased and Biden was over aggressive with Ryan's time. But they are happy about it so they won't complain much.


he was a bit of a dick, but apparently in US politics winning a debate is more important than fixing the problems.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 02:40:09
October 12 2012 02:39 GMT
#15371
On October 12 2012 11:39 HellRoxYa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:36 Enchanted wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:35 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:34 Enchanted wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:31 Enchanted wrote:
Did Biden just say not everyone get's a fair shot in the US ? What ?


Which is true.

No, it's not even close to being true. Any hardworking person can make it in America, if you don't believe that then you're blind.


And that's one of the core differences between a Republican and a Democrat.

I don't think it's very political believing that hard work pays off.


So when hard work doesn't pay off, what then?

Stop joking, hard work always pays off, God made the universe that way. Atheist commie
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 12 2012 02:39 GMT
#15372
On October 12 2012 11:38 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:36 JinDesu wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:35 xDaunt wrote:
I dunno, I think that public perception of this debate is going to depend upon what people think of Biden's antics and the moderator's performance. If they don't care, then Biden wins.


XDaunt - I missed the entire thing while being at the gym, but if you are writing like this, I'm seriously thinking Biden's won it...

Even the lefties here are admitting the moderator was biased and Biden was over aggressive with Ryan's time. But they are happy about it so they won't complain much.


I'll happily admit that's what it FELT like, but I'm pretty sure Biden's time minus Ryan's time was less than Obama's time minus Romney's time. Ryan didn't use his time wisely at all.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 12 2012 02:39 GMT
#15373
On October 12 2012 11:38 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:36 JinDesu wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:35 xDaunt wrote:
I dunno, I think that public perception of this debate is going to depend upon what people think of Biden's antics and the moderator's performance. If they don't care, then Biden wins.


XDaunt - I missed the entire thing while being at the gym, but if you are writing like this, I'm seriously thinking Biden's won it...

Even the lefties here are admitting the moderator was biased and Biden was over aggressive with Ryan's time. But they are happy about it so they won't complain much.


Can't argue with this lol. I really wish they'd have a social issues debate for the people like me... who cares about the economy :<
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
CajunMan
Profile Joined July 2010
United States823 Posts
October 12 2012 02:39 GMT
#15374
On October 12 2012 11:39 HellRoxYa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:36 Enchanted wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:35 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:34 Enchanted wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:31 Enchanted wrote:
Did Biden just say not everyone get's a fair shot in the US ? What ?


Which is true.

No, it's not even close to being true. Any hardworking person can make it in America, if you don't believe that then you're blind.


And that's one of the core differences between a Republican and a Democrat.

I don't think it's very political believing that hard work pays off.


So when hard work doesn't pay off, what then?


You do it again because nothing in this world is guaranteed. Quitters never win.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 12 2012 02:40 GMT
#15375
On October 12 2012 11:37 Risen wrote:
xDaunt, do you feel everyone gets a fair shot in America? I know I come from privilege and have an upper hand on other people, so obviously I don't think everyone gets a fair shot. What say you?

Yes, everyone gets a fair shot. People are free to make of their lives what they will. The issue is why some do and some don't. In my opinion, it all starts with the family.
Adila
Profile Joined April 2010
United States874 Posts
October 12 2012 02:40 GMT
#15376
On October 12 2012 11:38 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:36 JinDesu wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:35 xDaunt wrote:
I dunno, I think that public perception of this debate is going to depend upon what people think of Biden's antics and the moderator's performance. If they don't care, then Biden wins.


XDaunt - I missed the entire thing while being at the gym, but if you are writing like this, I'm seriously thinking Biden's won it...

Even the lefties here are admitting the moderator was biased and Biden was over aggressive with Ryan's time. But they are happy about it so they won't complain much.


Ryan also didn't fight for his time. He didn't fight for the last word.

Reminded me quite a bit of Obama's performance and was one of the biggest criticisms of his performance.
Harbinger631
Profile Joined September 2010
United States376 Posts
October 12 2012 02:40 GMT
#15377
Debate #1: Romney wins by doing a complete 180 on everything he campaigned on during the primary (obvious exaggeration)

Debate #2: Biden wins by teaming up with the moderator to interrupt Ryan at every 5th word (another obvious exaggeration)
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
October 12 2012 02:41 GMT
#15378
On October 12 2012 11:35 xDaunt wrote:
I dunno, I think that public perception of this debate is going to depend upon what people think of Biden's antics and the moderator's performance. If they don't care, then Biden wins.


xdaunt, are you brit hume? he just said the same fucking thing
No Artosis, you are robin
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 02:41:45
October 12 2012 02:41 GMT
#15379
Here's the question:

Is it condescending if you appear to be right and convicted?

If yes, Biden probably slightly won or maybe Ryan win. If no, decisive win for Biden.
Tarot
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada440 Posts
October 12 2012 02:41 GMT
#15380
On October 12 2012 11:40 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:37 Risen wrote:
xDaunt, do you feel everyone gets a fair shot in America? I know I come from privilege and have an upper hand on other people, so obviously I don't think everyone gets a fair shot. What say you?

Yes, everyone gets a fair shot. People are free to make of their lives what they will. The issue is why some do and some don't. In my opinion, it all starts with the family.

Then how is that a fair shot? Last time I checked, you don't get to choose what family you're born into.
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