• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:24
CEST 08:24
KST 15:24
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners7
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-2212Weekly Cups (July 27-Aug 2): SHIN's big week0
StarCraft 2
General
Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru GSTL Returns in 2026! Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Serral wins Maestros of the Game 2
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Fall 2026 GSTL Announcement
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout Mutation # 537 Hostile Territory
Brood War
General
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Pros React To: First 'Fastest' Map in ASL History BW General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 ASL22 General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0 Toronto invitational lan 22 august [ASL22] Ro24 Group A
Strategy
Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates Any training maps people recommend? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Dating: How's your luck? Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
The Creator Fan Club MarineLorD Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread Simple Questions Simple Answers FPS when play League Of Legend on laptop
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Young Players Exit Esports E…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5985 users

President Obama Re-Elected - Page 434

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 432 433 434 435 436 1504 Next
Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
Minus`
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 03:49:46
September 06 2012 03:48 GMT
#8661
On September 06 2012 12:44 dvorakftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 12:08 stevarius wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:06 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
He is a Jedi Master that is the only explanation.


Between Clinton and the First Lady, holy fuck these speeches man.

GG election over.

Yeah America, 8% unemployment, trillions dollar deficits, and the government running your health care is a fine trade to be able to listen to some people speak well about things that just aren't true.

Which things aren't true? Please, elaborate.

With actual sources rather than condescension, links to figures that disagree with you, and wikipedia articles you haven't read, if you don't mind.

Color me skeptical, but I honestly don't even think you're capable of doing that, by this point. I disagree with xDaunt, and have issues with how he actually engages/disengages in conversations at times, but at least he's coherent. He's the resident right-winger, but I'm pretty sure you're the resident nutjob. (On any side.)
[11:02:30 PM] <gryzor> calling coh an rts is like calling an sheep a car
dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
September 06 2012 03:48 GMT
#8662
On September 06 2012 12:35 JinDesu wrote:
I have insurance, and it still wasn't terribly fun waiting about 2 hours for someone to relocate my shoulder.

Hours is better than months.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
September 06 2012 03:49 GMT
#8663
On September 06 2012 12:44 dvorakftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 12:08 stevarius wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:06 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
He is a Jedi Master that is the only explanation.


Between Clinton and the First Lady, holy fuck these speeches man.

GG election over.

Yeah America, 8% unemployment, trillions dollar deficits, and the government running your health care is a fine trade to be able to listen to some people speak well about things that just aren't true.



because we really want to go back to the policies of bush ;\

The government isnt running our health care and its ran by greedy sob's in the insurance companies/medical field anyway.

get over it.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
September 06 2012 03:49 GMT
#8664
This is the part where dvorakftw says the onus is on Bill Clinton to disprove his perception of reality.



dvorakftw
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
681 Posts
September 06 2012 03:51 GMT
#8665
On September 06 2012 12:48 MinusPlus wrote:
Color me skeptical, but I honestly don't even think you're capable of doing that, by this point. I disagree with xDaunt, and have issues with how he actually engages/disengages in conversations at times, but at least he's coherent. He's the resident right-winger, but I'm pretty sure you're the resident nutjob. (On any side.)

I think last time I proved something on this board it was with a graph showing how government spending went from less than 10% of GDP to almost half and I was told it didn't have any relevance to bigger government so why bother?
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 06 2012 03:52 GMT
#8666
On September 06 2012 12:48 dvorakftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 12:35 JinDesu wrote:
I have insurance, and it still wasn't terribly fun waiting about 2 hours for someone to relocate my shoulder.

Hours is better than months.


I was sitting in an emergency room.

For two hours.

On a bed.

With my shoulder out of it's socket.

Sure, I don't have a surgery to schedule and find out if it'll take me months or not - oh wait, there are plenty of stories like that in the american system.

Although you know what? I'm glad I had insurance. Because that shoulder dislocation cost 11 grand. All for an accidental fall. After insurance, it cost me 1 grand. Without insurance, I'd have been bankrupt by that (I just started working at the time). So I personally have no issues with universal health insurance.
Yargh
Dagan159
Profile Joined July 2012
United States203 Posts
September 06 2012 03:55 GMT
#8667
So kraut -hammer on fox after seeing clinton:

something to the effect of:

"I dont know why he went through and rebutled all the RNC's points, he could have taken this opportunity to really fire up the base."

Almost made me sick. A fucking "news" organization for a politician actually debateing points rather than spitting out menaingless waffle? Clinton pushed me to Obama tonight.
The ultimate weapon. nuff said.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
September 06 2012 03:56 GMT
#8668
lol @ the troll on fox news saying they moved the convention inside because they were affraid of empty seats. "They knew the weather months ago" LOL


Check out the weather
[image loading]

Omfg I can't believe Fox news actually let that guy on the air
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
September 06 2012 03:56 GMT
#8669
On September 06 2012 12:52 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 12:48 dvorakftw wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:35 JinDesu wrote:
I have insurance, and it still wasn't terribly fun waiting about 2 hours for someone to relocate my shoulder.

Hours is better than months.


I was sitting in an emergency room.

For two hours.

On a bed.

With my shoulder out of it's socket.

Sure, I don't have a surgery to schedule and find out if it'll take me months or not - oh wait, there are plenty of stories like that in the american system.

Although you know what? I'm glad I had insurance. Because that shoulder dislocation cost 11 grand. All for an accidental fall. After insurance, it cost me 1 grand. Without insurance, I'd have been bankrupt by that (I just started working at the time). So I personally have no issues with universal health insurance.


Wait times in Canada depend on the type of treatment you're getting and how serious it is.

It's pretty easy to fix a dislocated shoulder. If you went to Emergency in Canada, you'd probably wait about the same amount of time. And you would pay zero dollars, with or without insurance.
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
September 06 2012 03:57 GMT
#8670
Clinton's speech was great. "Arithmetic" was a great line that has been echoing what's been said in this thread many times over.

Republicans go on basic ideology of cutting taxes and government revenue, but make no mention of how they're going to keep that from making further debt -- it just doesn't ever add up. They've done it so many times before in recent administrations, and any timeline of the debt pretty much shows it. Republican "tax cuts" are de facto national loans, given to the wealthiest and paid for by everyone.

Michelle's speech was still the best, in my opinion. More timely, more personal, although obviously with less policy-substance. Both speeches, Michelle and Bill, were better than any from the GOP convention. I think the DNC has made the RNC look trite these past two weeks. Everyone is just going to remember "We built that" slogans and Clint Eastwood making imaginary conversation.

But I do think the best speech will be tomorrow. Do people still foolishly doubt Barack Obama's ability to give a good speech. Barack Obama's speech at the 2004 DNC is the reason he is president today. He'll deliver a great speech, and you can tell the audience there is more than primed to see him.
Big water
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
September 06 2012 03:57 GMT
#8671
On September 06 2012 12:48 dvorakftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 12:35 JinDesu wrote:
I have insurance, and it still wasn't terribly fun waiting about 2 hours for someone to relocate my shoulder.

Hours is better than months.


politicians distorting truth to make a point?

come on, not everyone waits 3 months for a brain tumour
Minus`
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States174 Posts
September 06 2012 03:58 GMT
#8672
On September 06 2012 12:51 dvorakftw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 12:48 MinusPlus wrote:
Color me skeptical, but I honestly don't even think you're capable of doing that, by this point. I disagree with xDaunt, and have issues with how he actually engages/disengages in conversations at times, but at least he's coherent. He's the resident right-winger, but I'm pretty sure you're the resident nutjob. (On any side.)

I think last time I proved something on this board it was with a graph showing how government spending went from less than 10% of GDP to almost half and I was told it didn't have any relevance to bigger government so why bother?

I'm sorry, but the last time you "proved" anything to anyone ended in "User was temp banned for this post."

Off-hand, I'll just assume that, as per the norm, what you posted then did not have any relevance to the discussion; you just found a picture that supported some completely different point and posted it saying "Look! LOOK! Look at this picture! You libs are IDIOTS!"

Yeah, no thanks.
[11:02:30 PM] <gryzor> calling coh an rts is like calling an sheep a car
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 06 2012 03:58 GMT
#8673
On September 06 2012 12:56 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 12:52 JinDesu wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:48 dvorakftw wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:35 JinDesu wrote:
I have insurance, and it still wasn't terribly fun waiting about 2 hours for someone to relocate my shoulder.

Hours is better than months.


I was sitting in an emergency room.

For two hours.

On a bed.

With my shoulder out of it's socket.

Sure, I don't have a surgery to schedule and find out if it'll take me months or not - oh wait, there are plenty of stories like that in the american system.

Although you know what? I'm glad I had insurance. Because that shoulder dislocation cost 11 grand. All for an accidental fall. After insurance, it cost me 1 grand. Without insurance, I'd have been bankrupt by that (I just started working at the time). So I personally have no issues with universal health insurance.


Wait times in Canada depend on the type of treatment you're getting and how serious it is.

It's pretty easy to fix a dislocated shoulder. If you went to Emergency in Canada, you'd probably wait about the same amount of time. And you would pay zero dollars, with or without insurance.


Well the humorous part was that after 2 hours, the pain was so unbearable that they needed to sedate me. And then the relocation process took about 10 minutes (which I don't even remember, after being sedated).

Relocation cost - $1000
Ambulance cost - $100
Sedation cost - ~$8900

I was so terrified after seeing the bill, because I wasn't completely clear on what my insurance would cover (again, I just started working, and I was fresh out of college). Imagine my happiness in finding out they covered everything minus the $1000 deductible.
Yargh
Dagan159
Profile Joined July 2012
United States203 Posts
September 06 2012 04:00 GMT
#8674
On September 06 2012 12:58 JinDesu wrote:

Sedation cost - ~$8900

deductible.


In retrospect, couldnt you have just toughed it out for 9g's? =P
The ultimate weapon. nuff said.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
September 06 2012 04:00 GMT
#8675
On September 06 2012 12:58 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 12:56 Defacer wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:52 JinDesu wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:48 dvorakftw wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:35 JinDesu wrote:
I have insurance, and it still wasn't terribly fun waiting about 2 hours for someone to relocate my shoulder.

Hours is better than months.


I was sitting in an emergency room.

For two hours.

On a bed.

With my shoulder out of it's socket.

Sure, I don't have a surgery to schedule and find out if it'll take me months or not - oh wait, there are plenty of stories like that in the american system.

Although you know what? I'm glad I had insurance. Because that shoulder dislocation cost 11 grand. All for an accidental fall. After insurance, it cost me 1 grand. Without insurance, I'd have been bankrupt by that (I just started working at the time). So I personally have no issues with universal health insurance.


Wait times in Canada depend on the type of treatment you're getting and how serious it is.

It's pretty easy to fix a dislocated shoulder. If you went to Emergency in Canada, you'd probably wait about the same amount of time. And you would pay zero dollars, with or without insurance.


Well the humorous part was that after 2 hours, the pain was so unbearable that they needed to sedate me. And then the relocation process took about 10 minutes (which I don't even remember, after being sedated).

Relocation cost - $1000
Ambulance cost - $100
Sedation cost - ~$8900

I was so terrified after seeing the bill, because I wasn't completely clear on what my insurance would cover (again, I just started working, and I was fresh out of college). Imagine my happiness in finding out they covered everything minus the $1000 deductible.



You are lucky you only had a $100 ambulance cost. How far was the trip? I have seen/heard of up to $900 for my grandfather.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 06 2012 04:02 GMT
#8676
On September 06 2012 12:56 Sadist wrote:
lol @ the troll on fox news saying they moved the convention inside because they were affraid of empty seats. "They knew the weather months ago" LOL


Check out the weather
[image loading]

Omfg I can't believe Fox news actually let that guy on the air


I am more surprised that they didn't claim it was a divine sign from God.
Get it by your hands...
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
September 06 2012 04:03 GMT
#8677
On September 06 2012 12:57 Leporello wrote:
Clinton's speech was great. "Arithmetic" was a great line that has been echoing what's been said in this thread many times over.

Republicans go on basic ideology of cutting taxes and government revenue, but make no mention of how they're going to keep that from making further debt -- it just doesn't ever add up. They've done it so many times before in recent administrations, and any timeline of the debt pretty much shows it. Republican "tax cuts" are de facto national loans, given to the wealthiest and paid for by everyone.

Michelle's speech was still the best, in my opinion. More timely, more personal, although obviously with less policy-substance. Both speeches, Michelle and Bill, were better than any from the GOP convention. I think the DNC has made the RNC look trite these past two weeks. Everyone is just going to remember "We built that" slogans and Clint Eastwood making imaginary conversation.

But I do think the best speech will be tomorrow. Do people still foolishly doubt Barack Obama's ability to give a good speech. Barack Obama's speech at the 2004 DNC is the reason he is president today. He'll deliver a great speech, and you can tell the audience there is more than primed to see him.


The challenge is for Obama to say something NEW. Bill Clinton did a excellent jump speaking directly to swing voters, and explaining why THEY are wrong and why Obama is right.

It will be interesting to see if Obama will be able to appeal to or inspire anyone outside his already committed base.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-06 04:03:57
September 06 2012 04:03 GMT
#8678
Megyn Kelly is complaining about Clinton going into details of Medicare, and Medicaid...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
September 06 2012 04:04 GMT
#8679
On September 06 2012 13:00 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 12:58 JinDesu wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:56 Defacer wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:52 JinDesu wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:48 dvorakftw wrote:
On September 06 2012 12:35 JinDesu wrote:
I have insurance, and it still wasn't terribly fun waiting about 2 hours for someone to relocate my shoulder.

Hours is better than months.


I was sitting in an emergency room.

For two hours.

On a bed.

With my shoulder out of it's socket.

Sure, I don't have a surgery to schedule and find out if it'll take me months or not - oh wait, there are plenty of stories like that in the american system.

Although you know what? I'm glad I had insurance. Because that shoulder dislocation cost 11 grand. All for an accidental fall. After insurance, it cost me 1 grand. Without insurance, I'd have been bankrupt by that (I just started working at the time). So I personally have no issues with universal health insurance.


Wait times in Canada depend on the type of treatment you're getting and how serious it is.

It's pretty easy to fix a dislocated shoulder. If you went to Emergency in Canada, you'd probably wait about the same amount of time. And you would pay zero dollars, with or without insurance.


Well the humorous part was that after 2 hours, the pain was so unbearable that they needed to sedate me. And then the relocation process took about 10 minutes (which I don't even remember, after being sedated).

Relocation cost - $1000
Ambulance cost - $100
Sedation cost - ~$8900

I was so terrified after seeing the bill, because I wasn't completely clear on what my insurance would cover (again, I just started working, and I was fresh out of college). Imagine my happiness in finding out they covered everything minus the $1000 deductible.



You are lucky you only had a $100 ambulance cost. How far was the trip? I have seen/heard of up to $900 for my grandfather.


I didn't know - it was a hellish ride too! Even with my arm strapped tight against my body, they were rolling on some rough roads and I couldn't wait for it to be over. I just remember it was maybe a 30 minute ride, although that's a bad judge since I was in pain. I know now that my insurance actually covers the ambulance fee, so that's lucky for me.

On September 06 2012 13:00 Dagan159 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2012 12:58 JinDesu wrote:

Sedation cost - ~$8900

deductible.


In retrospect, couldnt you have just toughed it out for 9g's? =P


Yeah, if I knew it was 9g's, I would have probably toughed it out... but my pain was so bad that the morphine they injected did nothing. They resorted to one final sedative/pain killer that literally removed all feeling in my body, as well as put me in lalaland.
Yargh
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
September 06 2012 04:04 GMT
#8680
now fox news going in on the God vote for the democrats.


So typical lol.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Prev 1 432 433 434 435 436 1504 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 3h 36m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech124
Nina 60
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 28445
Shuttle 6203
actioN 357
Bale 79
Mind 70
Noble 40
ZergMaN 23
Dota 2
The International145369
Gorgc5693
singsing1344
NeuroSwarm148
League of Legends
JimRising 693
C9.Mang0271
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King86
Other Games
summit1g8162
WinterStarcraft472
RuFF_SC2114
Sick104
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick617
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH446
• practicex 25
• davetesta12
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Noizen30
League of Legends
• Lourlo1232
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3h 36m
PiG Sty Festival
5h 36m
Solar vs Reynor
Serral vs TBD
OSC
9h 36m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 3h
hero vs ggaemo
Larva vs Mong
The Patches Monday
1d 9h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soulkey vs PianO
JyJ vs sSak
GSL
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Mini vs Calm
Queen vs EffOrt
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
GSL
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S3: W8
CranK Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League
Eternal Conflict S2 Finale

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 1
RSL Revival: Season 6
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
META DYMY #4
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.