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i hate how narrowminded religious voters force every politician to "believe in God".
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On July 12 2012 07:03 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 06:57 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 06:43 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:42 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 02:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:.... “He told us that he had gotten the uniform from his father,” George Romney, then the Governor of Michigan, whose security detail was staffed by uniformed troopers. “He told us that he was using it to pull over drivers on the road. He also had a red flashing light that he would attach to the top of his white Rambler. We thought it was all pretty weird. We all thought, ‘Wow, that’s pretty creepy.’ And after that, we didn’t have much interaction with him.” Source Ahahaha that is hilarious. I wonder what he told them when he did it. I stole a bunch of road signs and cones and blocked of roads for laughs, but police officer is an entirely higher level of rl trolling. It's beyond trolling. There's are very goods reason why impersonating a police officer is illegal. Like serial killers. And pedophiles. But Mitt Romney is neither a serial killer or a pedophile so I fail to see how that is relevant. Tell me, if some random guy in your neighborhood was pretending to be police officer, and say, harassing your children, would you be cool with that?
There is a huge difference between stupid jokes and criminal behaviour but it looks like you are totally missing it. Its funny how people would conclude he is an awful human being from the fact that a man dressed like a cop. I mean maybe he is, but certainly you cant tell it by the dressing episode.
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Dressing up as a cop, putting a light on your car and harassing people (pulling them over, etc) doesn't make you a horrible human being, but it does mean you're committing a felony in the state of Michigan (not sure if its a felony in California as well, or just a misdemeanor) and are bringing grief (whatever you want to call harassment) to innocent people.
It also shows you feel either the law doesn't apply to you or a level of disrespect for it that is unusual. Lots of people speed, some people smoke pot, or drink underage etc, but how many commit felonies that involve harassing others?
Edit: Most stories you read that involve dressing up as a cop and pulling people over don't end very well. Or at least not the ones I have read.
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All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election.
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On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 07:03 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:57 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 06:43 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:42 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 02:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:.... “He told us that he had gotten the uniform from his father,” George Romney, then the Governor of Michigan, whose security detail was staffed by uniformed troopers. “He told us that he was using it to pull over drivers on the road. He also had a red flashing light that he would attach to the top of his white Rambler. We thought it was all pretty weird. We all thought, ‘Wow, that’s pretty creepy.’ And after that, we didn’t have much interaction with him.” Source Ahahaha that is hilarious. I wonder what he told them when he did it. I stole a bunch of road signs and cones and blocked of roads for laughs, but police officer is an entirely higher level of rl trolling. It's beyond trolling. There's are very goods reason why impersonating a police officer is illegal. Like serial killers. And pedophiles. But Mitt Romney is neither a serial killer or a pedophile so I fail to see how that is relevant. Ignoring a law designed to protect people's safety because you're too rich to care is irrelevant? Tell me, if some random guy in your neighborhood was pretending to be police officer, and say, harassing your children, would you be cool with that? I'd love to hear Mitt Romney defend impersonating a police officer. Anyone else would immediately go to jail. This is literally the kind of thing only a wealthy, privileged white man could get away with. All it does is reinforce how disconnected he is from the rest of the planet. I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over? Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people. Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life.
Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people.
On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election.
So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger?
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On July 13 2012 00:18 kwizach wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 07:03 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:57 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 06:43 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:42 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 02:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:.... “He told us that he had gotten the uniform from his father,” George Romney, then the Governor of Michigan, whose security detail was staffed by uniformed troopers. “He told us that he was using it to pull over drivers on the road. He also had a red flashing light that he would attach to the top of his white Rambler. We thought it was all pretty weird. We all thought, ‘Wow, that’s pretty creepy.’ And after that, we didn’t have much interaction with him.” Source Ahahaha that is hilarious. I wonder what he told them when he did it. I stole a bunch of road signs and cones and blocked of roads for laughs, but police officer is an entirely higher level of rl trolling. It's beyond trolling. There's are very goods reason why impersonating a police officer is illegal. Like serial killers. And pedophiles. But Mitt Romney is neither a serial killer or a pedophile so I fail to see how that is relevant. Ignoring a law designed to protect people's safety because you're too rich to care is irrelevant? Tell me, if some random guy in your neighborhood was pretending to be police officer, and say, harassing your children, would you be cool with that? I'd love to hear Mitt Romney defend impersonating a police officer. Anyone else would immediately go to jail. This is literally the kind of thing only a wealthy, privileged white man could get away with. All it does is reinforce how disconnected he is from the rest of the planet. I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over? Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people. Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life. Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people. Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election. So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger?
Of course not. Knock yourselves out.
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Government documents filed by Mitt Romney and Bain Capital say Romney remained chief executive and chairman of the firm three years beyond the date he said he ceded control, even creating five new investment partnerships during that time.
Romney has said he left Bain in 1999 to lead the winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, ending his role in the company. But public Securities and Exchange Commission documents filed later by Bain Capital state he remained the firm’s “sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president.”
Also, a Massachusetts financial disclosure form Romney filed in 2003 states that he still owned 100 percent of Bain Capital in 2002. And Romney’s state financial disclosure forms indicate he earned at least $100,000 as a Bain “executive” in 2001 and 2002, separate from investment earnings.
The timing of Romney’s departure from Bain is a key point of contention because he has said his resignation in February 1999 meant he was not responsible for Bain Capital companies that went bankrupt or laid off workers after that date.
Source
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On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election.
Probably not, but it goes to show that he's a douchebag.
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On July 13 2012 00:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +Government documents filed by Mitt Romney and Bain Capital say Romney remained chief executive and chairman of the firm three years beyond the date he said he ceded control, even creating five new investment partnerships during that time.
Romney has said he left Bain in 1999 to lead the winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, ending his role in the company. But public Securities and Exchange Commission documents filed later by Bain Capital state he remained the firm’s “sole stockholder, chairman of the board, chief executive officer, and president.”
Also, a Massachusetts financial disclosure form Romney filed in 2003 states that he still owned 100 percent of Bain Capital in 2002. And Romney’s state financial disclosure forms indicate he earned at least $100,000 as a Bain “executive” in 2001 and 2002, separate from investment earnings.
The timing of Romney’s departure from Bain is a key point of contention because he has said his resignation in February 1999 meant he was not responsible for Bain Capital companies that went bankrupt or laid off workers after that date. Source
Boy, it would be nice if anyone ever linked to original sources in the mainstream media.
Here are the SEC filings in question from July 2000 and Febraury 2001.
If you read through it, this is Bain setting up Romney with an investment fund over which he had sole discretion (which is what partners have). Most likely, it means Romney probably told them he wanted to come back and they set this up for him, then he changed his mind because the Massachusetts governor was embroiled in scandals and some GOP bigwigs convinced him to run instead.
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On July 13 2012 00:18 kwizach wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 07:03 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:57 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 06:43 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:42 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 02:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:.... “He told us that he had gotten the uniform from his father,” George Romney, then the Governor of Michigan, whose security detail was staffed by uniformed troopers. “He told us that he was using it to pull over drivers on the road. He also had a red flashing light that he would attach to the top of his white Rambler. We thought it was all pretty weird. We all thought, ‘Wow, that’s pretty creepy.’ And after that, we didn’t have much interaction with him.” Source Ahahaha that is hilarious. I wonder what he told them when he did it. I stole a bunch of road signs and cones and blocked of roads for laughs, but police officer is an entirely higher level of rl trolling. It's beyond trolling. There's are very goods reason why impersonating a police officer is illegal. Like serial killers. And pedophiles. But Mitt Romney is neither a serial killer or a pedophile so I fail to see how that is relevant. Ignoring a law designed to protect people's safety because you're too rich to care is irrelevant? Tell me, if some random guy in your neighborhood was pretending to be police officer, and say, harassing your children, would you be cool with that? I'd love to hear Mitt Romney defend impersonating a police officer. Anyone else would immediately go to jail. This is literally the kind of thing only a wealthy, privileged white man could get away with. All it does is reinforce how disconnected he is from the rest of the planet. I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over? Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people. Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life. Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people. Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election. So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger?
Smoking pot may not create a felony, but how the hell do you think it gets to the user? It creates a market for felonious behavior, and indirectly causes citizens to commit felonies. If the only objective is "it's not a felony" for making it "ok", then I don't think participating in the drug market is the correct argument you should be making...
You're more than welcome to share your opinion, but crying wolf on some teenage decision from dozens of years ago just makes you sound like a crybaby. Nobody makes it that far in life without doing something stupid at some point, and holding every youthful indiscretion against them would eliminate 99.9% of our candidates. Everyone has dirt if you know where to look.
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On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election.
I wonder what you would say if it had been Obama instead of Romney...
Still though, talking about this is a waste of time. Everyone does stupid shit when they're younger. Can we get back to talking about issues relevant to the candidates, please?
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On July 12 2012 02:27 DoubleReed wrote:
I meant balancing budgets with revenue increases and how that would affect the markets. I mean the method of budget balancing is pretty important to the point. I'm not advocating austerity.
You are advocating austerity, you just want to cover the costs through revenues instead of through cutting spending which is arguably a worse idea. While it is possible to create taxes that don't have a distorting effect it is very difficult and most taxes end up creating dead-weight loss greater than the tax. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadweight_loss
I do not understand why most Americans think it is a good time for raising taxes or cutting spending, the real yield on 10 year t-bonds is negative. (http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/interest-rates/pages/TextView.aspx?data=realyield) Any stimulus with a fiscal multiplier of just 1 in real dollars over ten years is going to be beneficial to the country in the long run.
The eurozone is dragging the global economy down again, creating a need for more expansionist monetary policy, like additional quantitative easing. The weird combination of fiscal and monetary policy of the Eurozone looks like it will be looming large on the horizon for some time, creating upward pressure on the dollar and risks of deflation. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704816604576335250426158790.html
Conservative economists even consider this a risk after QE2 ends but there is also risk of the US and the Eurozone trying to deflate their currency too much. The establishment of more quantitative easing and borrowing of additional debt will help avoiod our economy being dragged back into recession by the Eurozones sputterings and China's attempts to control the speed of its own economy and to keep its inflation low.
The reason that borrowing and quantitative easing is necessary now when in the other, smaller recessions of recent years it hasn't been, is that the US fiscal policy has hit the restrictive wall of a practically 0% rate. Pursuing more expansionist monetary policy will also reduce the real value of US debt and the interest paid on it, besides, debt held by the government owed to itself can be rolled over indefinitely.
The time to deal with debt is later and to do it slowly and as painlessly as possible. As long as our politicians could make people confident they are capable of that, we would be much better off, but they can't.
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On July 13 2012 02:13 BluePanther wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 00:18 kwizach wrote:On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 07:03 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:57 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 06:43 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:42 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 02:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:.... [quote] Source Ahahaha that is hilarious. I wonder what he told them when he did it. I stole a bunch of road signs and cones and blocked of roads for laughs, but police officer is an entirely higher level of rl trolling. It's beyond trolling. There's are very goods reason why impersonating a police officer is illegal. Like serial killers. And pedophiles. But Mitt Romney is neither a serial killer or a pedophile so I fail to see how that is relevant. Ignoring a law designed to protect people's safety because you're too rich to care is irrelevant? Tell me, if some random guy in your neighborhood was pretending to be police officer, and say, harassing your children, would you be cool with that? I'd love to hear Mitt Romney defend impersonating a police officer. Anyone else would immediately go to jail. This is literally the kind of thing only a wealthy, privileged white man could get away with. All it does is reinforce how disconnected he is from the rest of the planet. I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over? Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people. Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life. Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people. On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election. So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger? Smoking pot may not create a felony, but how the hell do you think it gets to the user? It creates a market for felonious behavior, and indirectly causes citizens to commit felonies. If the only objective is "it's not a felony" for making it "ok", then I don't think participating in the drug market is the correct argument you should be making... You're more than welcome to share your opinion, but crying wolf on some teenage decision from dozens of years ago just makes you sound like a crybaby. Nobody makes it that far in life without doing something stupid at some point, and holding every youthful indiscretion against them would eliminate 99.9% of our candidates. Everyone has dirt if you know where to look.
I frankly don't care what he did when he was younger. My point was that it's laughable to compare smoking pot (does no harm to others) to harassing people (does harm to others - at the very least, makes them stressful/wastes their time). The point of my reply to you was clearly to highlight the difference between the two, but for some reason you decided to go off on a tangent on felonies.
On July 13 2012 00:19 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 00:18 kwizach wrote:On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 07:03 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:57 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 06:43 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:42 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 02:49 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:.... [quote] Source Ahahaha that is hilarious. I wonder what he told them when he did it. I stole a bunch of road signs and cones and blocked of roads for laughs, but police officer is an entirely higher level of rl trolling. It's beyond trolling. There's are very goods reason why impersonating a police officer is illegal. Like serial killers. And pedophiles. But Mitt Romney is neither a serial killer or a pedophile so I fail to see how that is relevant. Ignoring a law designed to protect people's safety because you're too rich to care is irrelevant? Tell me, if some random guy in your neighborhood was pretending to be police officer, and say, harassing your children, would you be cool with that? I'd love to hear Mitt Romney defend impersonating a police officer. Anyone else would immediately go to jail. This is literally the kind of thing only a wealthy, privileged white man could get away with. All it does is reinforce how disconnected he is from the rest of the planet. I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over? Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people. Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life. Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people. On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election. So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger? Of course not. Knock yourselves out.
Gee wiz, thanks!
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On July 13 2012 02:35 kwizach wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 02:13 BluePanther wrote:On July 13 2012 00:18 kwizach wrote:On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 07:03 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:57 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 06:43 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:42 Romantic wrote:
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Ahahaha that is hilarious. I wonder what he told them when he did it. I stole a bunch of road signs and cones and blocked of roads for laughs, but police officer is an entirely higher level of rl trolling. It's beyond trolling. There's are very goods reason why impersonating a police officer is illegal. Like serial killers. And pedophiles. But Mitt Romney is neither a serial killer or a pedophile so I fail to see how that is relevant. Ignoring a law designed to protect people's safety because you're too rich to care is irrelevant? Tell me, if some random guy in your neighborhood was pretending to be police officer, and say, harassing your children, would you be cool with that? I'd love to hear Mitt Romney defend impersonating a police officer. Anyone else would immediately go to jail. This is literally the kind of thing only a wealthy, privileged white man could get away with. All it does is reinforce how disconnected he is from the rest of the planet. I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over? Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people. Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life. Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people. On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election. So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger? Smoking pot may not create a felony, but how the hell do you think it gets to the user? It creates a market for felonious behavior, and indirectly causes citizens to commit felonies. If the only objective is "it's not a felony" for making it "ok", then I don't think participating in the drug market is the correct argument you should be making... You're more than welcome to share your opinion, but crying wolf on some teenage decision from dozens of years ago just makes you sound like a crybaby. Nobody makes it that far in life without doing something stupid at some point, and holding every youthful indiscretion against them would eliminate 99.9% of our candidates. Everyone has dirt if you know where to look. I frankly don't care what he did when he was younger. My point was that it's laughable to compare smoking pot (does no harm to others) to harassing people (does harm to others - at the very least, makes them stressful/wastes their time). The point of my reply to you was clearly to highlight the difference between the two, but for some reason you decided to go off on a tangent on felonies. Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 00:19 xDaunt wrote:On July 13 2012 00:18 kwizach wrote:On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 07:03 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:57 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 06:43 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:42 Romantic wrote:
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Ahahaha that is hilarious. I wonder what he told them when he did it. I stole a bunch of road signs and cones and blocked of roads for laughs, but police officer is an entirely higher level of rl trolling. It's beyond trolling. There's are very goods reason why impersonating a police officer is illegal. Like serial killers. And pedophiles. But Mitt Romney is neither a serial killer or a pedophile so I fail to see how that is relevant. Ignoring a law designed to protect people's safety because you're too rich to care is irrelevant? Tell me, if some random guy in your neighborhood was pretending to be police officer, and say, harassing your children, would you be cool with that? I'd love to hear Mitt Romney defend impersonating a police officer. Anyone else would immediately go to jail. This is literally the kind of thing only a wealthy, privileged white man could get away with. All it does is reinforce how disconnected he is from the rest of the planet. I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over? Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people. Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life. Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people. On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election. So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger? Of course not. Knock yourselves out. Gee wiz, thanks!
And my point is that your "view" is overly simplistic, and, to a point, even ignorant. Juarez isn't what it is because people are murderous... it's because your so-called "behaviors that do not affect others" DO actually affect others, and many times in very, very negative ways. Just because you rationalize drug use as being self-contained does not make it so.
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On July 13 2012 02:41 BluePanther wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 02:35 kwizach wrote:On July 13 2012 02:13 BluePanther wrote:On July 13 2012 00:18 kwizach wrote:On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 07:03 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:57 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 06:43 Defacer wrote:
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It's beyond trolling. There's are very goods reason why impersonating a police officer is illegal. Like serial killers. And pedophiles.
But Mitt Romney is neither a serial killer or a pedophile so I fail to see how that is relevant. Ignoring a law designed to protect people's safety because you're too rich to care is irrelevant? Tell me, if some random guy in your neighborhood was pretending to be police officer, and say, harassing your children, would you be cool with that? I'd love to hear Mitt Romney defend impersonating a police officer. Anyone else would immediately go to jail. This is literally the kind of thing only a wealthy, privileged white man could get away with. All it does is reinforce how disconnected he is from the rest of the planet. I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over? Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people. Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life. Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people. On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election. So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger? Smoking pot may not create a felony, but how the hell do you think it gets to the user? It creates a market for felonious behavior, and indirectly causes citizens to commit felonies. If the only objective is "it's not a felony" for making it "ok", then I don't think participating in the drug market is the correct argument you should be making... You're more than welcome to share your opinion, but crying wolf on some teenage decision from dozens of years ago just makes you sound like a crybaby. Nobody makes it that far in life without doing something stupid at some point, and holding every youthful indiscretion against them would eliminate 99.9% of our candidates. Everyone has dirt if you know where to look. I frankly don't care what he did when he was younger. My point was that it's laughable to compare smoking pot (does no harm to others) to harassing people (does harm to others - at the very least, makes them stressful/wastes their time). The point of my reply to you was clearly to highlight the difference between the two, but for some reason you decided to go off on a tangent on felonies. On July 13 2012 00:19 xDaunt wrote:On July 13 2012 00:18 kwizach wrote:On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 07:03 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:57 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 06:43 Defacer wrote:
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It's beyond trolling. There's are very goods reason why impersonating a police officer is illegal. Like serial killers. And pedophiles.
But Mitt Romney is neither a serial killer or a pedophile so I fail to see how that is relevant. Ignoring a law designed to protect people's safety because you're too rich to care is irrelevant? Tell me, if some random guy in your neighborhood was pretending to be police officer, and say, harassing your children, would you be cool with that? I'd love to hear Mitt Romney defend impersonating a police officer. Anyone else would immediately go to jail. This is literally the kind of thing only a wealthy, privileged white man could get away with. All it does is reinforce how disconnected he is from the rest of the planet. I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over? Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people. Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life. Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people. On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election. So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger? Of course not. Knock yourselves out. Gee wiz, thanks! And my point is that your "view" is overly simplistic, and, to a point, even ignorant. Juarez isn't what it is because people are murderous... it's because your so-called "behaviors that do not affect others" DO actually affect others, and many times in very, very negative ways. Just because you rationalize drug use as being self-contained does not make it so.
You are talking about drug use on a systemic level. I don't "rationalize drug use as being self-contained", I rationalize drug use by Barack Obama as being self-contained. If Barack Obama had never purchased marijuana when he was young, literally nothing would have changed about the drug market and its effect on people. Had Romney not harassed people when he was young, however, people would not have been harassed.
(also, it's possible to grow your own marijuana - not all marijuana consumption is linked to Mexican drug cartels, and I don't know how Obama got his)
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On July 13 2012 03:02 kwizach wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 02:41 BluePanther wrote:On July 13 2012 02:35 kwizach wrote:On July 13 2012 02:13 BluePanther wrote:On July 13 2012 00:18 kwizach wrote:On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 07:03 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:57 Romantic wrote:
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But Mitt Romney is neither a serial killer or a pedophile so I fail to see how that is relevant.
Ignoring a law designed to protect people's safety because you're too rich to care is irrelevant? Tell me, if some random guy in your neighborhood was pretending to be police officer, and say, harassing your children, would you be cool with that? I'd love to hear Mitt Romney defend impersonating a police officer. Anyone else would immediately go to jail. This is literally the kind of thing only a wealthy, privileged white man could get away with. All it does is reinforce how disconnected he is from the rest of the planet. I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over? Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people. Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life. Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people. On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election. So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger? Smoking pot may not create a felony, but how the hell do you think it gets to the user? It creates a market for felonious behavior, and indirectly causes citizens to commit felonies. If the only objective is "it's not a felony" for making it "ok", then I don't think participating in the drug market is the correct argument you should be making... You're more than welcome to share your opinion, but crying wolf on some teenage decision from dozens of years ago just makes you sound like a crybaby. Nobody makes it that far in life without doing something stupid at some point, and holding every youthful indiscretion against them would eliminate 99.9% of our candidates. Everyone has dirt if you know where to look. I frankly don't care what he did when he was younger. My point was that it's laughable to compare smoking pot (does no harm to others) to harassing people (does harm to others - at the very least, makes them stressful/wastes their time). The point of my reply to you was clearly to highlight the difference between the two, but for some reason you decided to go off on a tangent on felonies. On July 13 2012 00:19 xDaunt wrote:On July 13 2012 00:18 kwizach wrote:On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 07:03 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 06:57 Romantic wrote:
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But Mitt Romney is neither a serial killer or a pedophile so I fail to see how that is relevant.
Ignoring a law designed to protect people's safety because you're too rich to care is irrelevant? Tell me, if some random guy in your neighborhood was pretending to be police officer, and say, harassing your children, would you be cool with that? I'd love to hear Mitt Romney defend impersonating a police officer. Anyone else would immediately go to jail. This is literally the kind of thing only a wealthy, privileged white man could get away with. All it does is reinforce how disconnected he is from the rest of the planet. I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over? Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people. Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life. Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people. On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election. So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger? Of course not. Knock yourselves out. Gee wiz, thanks! And my point is that your "view" is overly simplistic, and, to a point, even ignorant. Juarez isn't what it is because people are murderous... it's because your so-called "behaviors that do not affect others" DO actually affect others, and many times in very, very negative ways. Just because you rationalize drug use as being self-contained does not make it so. You are talking about drug use on a systemic level. I don't "rationalize drug use as being self-contained", I rationalize drug use by Barack Obama as being self-contained. If Barack Obama had never purchased marijuana when he was young, literally nothing would have changed about the drug market and its effect on people. Had Romney not harassed people when he was young, however, people would not have been harassed. (also, it's possible to grow your own marijuana - not all marijuana consumption is linked to Mexican drug cartels, and I don't know how Obama got his)
The important thing about Romney's history terrorizing people isn't the impact it had on individuals, its the insights it gave into his upbringing and who he is as a person. His behavior was enabled by his wealthy father, endorsed by his wealthy father. It shows that he was raised to abuse his money and power and to not pay too much attention to how it impacts the little guy. This was the kind of example that was set for him growing up and he has shown such tendencies time and time again in various interviews and whatnot. While the specific event and the impact it had on those people isn't very substantial in the big picture, it was really telling of Romney's upbringing and gives a lot of hints as to who he is now.
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On July 13 2012 03:15 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 03:02 kwizach wrote:On July 13 2012 02:41 BluePanther wrote:On July 13 2012 02:35 kwizach wrote:On July 13 2012 02:13 BluePanther wrote:On July 13 2012 00:18 kwizach wrote:On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 07:03 Defacer wrote:
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Ignoring a law designed to protect people's safety because you're too rich to care is irrelevant?
Tell me, if some random guy in your neighborhood was pretending to be police officer, and say, harassing your children, would you be cool with that?
I'd love to hear Mitt Romney defend impersonating a police officer. Anyone else would immediately go to jail. This is literally the kind of thing only a wealthy, privileged white man could get away with. All it does is reinforce how disconnected he is from the rest of the planet.
I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over? Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people. Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life. Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people. On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election. So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger? Smoking pot may not create a felony, but how the hell do you think it gets to the user? It creates a market for felonious behavior, and indirectly causes citizens to commit felonies. If the only objective is "it's not a felony" for making it "ok", then I don't think participating in the drug market is the correct argument you should be making... You're more than welcome to share your opinion, but crying wolf on some teenage decision from dozens of years ago just makes you sound like a crybaby. Nobody makes it that far in life without doing something stupid at some point, and holding every youthful indiscretion against them would eliminate 99.9% of our candidates. Everyone has dirt if you know where to look. I frankly don't care what he did when he was younger. My point was that it's laughable to compare smoking pot (does no harm to others) to harassing people (does harm to others - at the very least, makes them stressful/wastes their time). The point of my reply to you was clearly to highlight the difference between the two, but for some reason you decided to go off on a tangent on felonies. On July 13 2012 00:19 xDaunt wrote:On July 13 2012 00:18 kwizach wrote:On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:On July 12 2012 07:03 Defacer wrote:
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Ignoring a law designed to protect people's safety because you're too rich to care is irrelevant?
Tell me, if some random guy in your neighborhood was pretending to be police officer, and say, harassing your children, would you be cool with that?
I'd love to hear Mitt Romney defend impersonating a police officer. Anyone else would immediately go to jail. This is literally the kind of thing only a wealthy, privileged white man could get away with. All it does is reinforce how disconnected he is from the rest of the planet.
I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over? Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people. Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life. Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people. On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election. So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger? Of course not. Knock yourselves out. Gee wiz, thanks! And my point is that your "view" is overly simplistic, and, to a point, even ignorant. Juarez isn't what it is because people are murderous... it's because your so-called "behaviors that do not affect others" DO actually affect others, and many times in very, very negative ways. Just because you rationalize drug use as being self-contained does not make it so. You are talking about drug use on a systemic level. I don't "rationalize drug use as being self-contained", I rationalize drug use by Barack Obama as being self-contained. If Barack Obama had never purchased marijuana when he was young, literally nothing would have changed about the drug market and its effect on people. Had Romney not harassed people when he was young, however, people would not have been harassed. (also, it's possible to grow your own marijuana - not all marijuana consumption is linked to Mexican drug cartels, and I don't know how Obama got his) The important thing about Romney's history terrorizing people isn't the impact it had on individuals, its the insights it gave into his upbringing and who he is as a person. His behavior was enabled by his wealthy father, endorsed by his wealthy father. It shows that he was raised to abuse his money and power and to not pay too much attention to how it impacts the little guy. This was the kind of example that was set for him growing up and he has shown such tendencies time and time again in various interviews and whatnot. While the specific event and the impact it had on those people isn't very substantial in the big picture, it was really telling of Romney's upbringing and gives a lot of hints as to who he is now.
This is a much better argument. However I still think it's somewhat of a stretch to say it is telling as to who he is now. Romney has lived a life where he has had a lot of different and interesting opportunities to interact with others. He's had time to grow up, is what I'm saying. While I think it's fair to say he had a somewhat privileged upbringing, I'm not sure how much I look at this as a reflection of who he is today. He was a teenager at the time this happened, and he's done a lot of things since then -- none of which really hint at this being a theme in his behavior. I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt on this one.
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On July 12 2012 23:10 Cheerio wrote:
i hate how narrowminded religious voters force every politician to "believe in God".
i don't force them to do anything, i just won't vote for them if they don't share my basic beliefs and morals... and if i think they are just giving me lip service, i won't vote for them.
not that strange, to be honest. i mean, yeah... i can see why it may not matter to you or to other people, and that is totally cool, but for me, having a guy (or girl) share my basic outlook on life is an important part for me to want to vote for them.
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i would think baptizing his father-in-law after death fits into the theme
tho i don't know how much romney specifically was involved in that
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On July 13 2012 04:22 BluePanther wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2012 03:15 Mohdoo wrote:On July 13 2012 03:02 kwizach wrote:On July 13 2012 02:41 BluePanther wrote:On July 13 2012 02:35 kwizach wrote:On July 13 2012 02:13 BluePanther wrote:On July 13 2012 00:18 kwizach wrote:On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:
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I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over?
Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people.
Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life. Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people. On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election. So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger? Smoking pot may not create a felony, but how the hell do you think it gets to the user? It creates a market for felonious behavior, and indirectly causes citizens to commit felonies. If the only objective is "it's not a felony" for making it "ok", then I don't think participating in the drug market is the correct argument you should be making... You're more than welcome to share your opinion, but crying wolf on some teenage decision from dozens of years ago just makes you sound like a crybaby. Nobody makes it that far in life without doing something stupid at some point, and holding every youthful indiscretion against them would eliminate 99.9% of our candidates. Everyone has dirt if you know where to look. I frankly don't care what he did when he was younger. My point was that it's laughable to compare smoking pot (does no harm to others) to harassing people (does harm to others - at the very least, makes them stressful/wastes their time). The point of my reply to you was clearly to highlight the difference between the two, but for some reason you decided to go off on a tangent on felonies. On July 13 2012 00:19 xDaunt wrote:On July 13 2012 00:18 kwizach wrote:On July 12 2012 22:42 BluePanther wrote:On July 12 2012 07:19 Defacer wrote:On July 12 2012 07:12 Romantic wrote:
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I doubt he got caught by real police. Assuming this story isn't complete BS, I would make a firm guess the police never caught him doing it. Are we just assuming his behavior is motivated by being rich and he was caught and they just let him go because his name is Romney and he has white skin? Black or poor people have never broken laws to prank anyone? Children drive cars now so they'd have been pulled over?
Lol, I can tell this conversation is going to go far. You win. Breaking any laws for laughs is exactly equal to breaking laws to rape and murder people from both a legal and moral POV. These stories about Romney are all 100% true, and we can safely assume he is a terrible rich white person who only understand other evil rich privileged white people.
Wow, I didn't make any of those arguments. I didn't equate what Romney did to being a serial killer. I simply pointed out that impersonating a police officer is a serious offense, precisely because if it were legal, it would be abused by all kinds of criminals. So things aren't illegal unless you get caught? And if you don't get caught it's fine? This is why this prank is so distasteful. Because it encourages irresponsible behaviour by people like you. Every recent president has admitted to smoking pot, which is illegal. There is "illegal" and illegal. Yes, something like that probably borders on the edge, but it's no reason to make someone pay for it 25 years later. We all do stupid stuff when we're teenagers -- some just get caught and others don't. Either way, it's forgivable at this point in his life. Smoking pot affects nobody but yourself. Here, we're talking about committing a felony which consists of harassing other people. On July 13 2012 00:17 xDaunt wrote:
All of this feigned outrage over the dressing up as a cop incident is really funny. Here's a newsflash: it's not going to mean dick in the election. So that means we're not allowed to share our opinions on something the presumptive Republican nominee did when he was younger? Of course not. Knock yourselves out. Gee wiz, thanks! And my point is that your "view" is overly simplistic, and, to a point, even ignorant. Juarez isn't what it is because people are murderous... it's because your so-called "behaviors that do not affect others" DO actually affect others, and many times in very, very negative ways. Just because you rationalize drug use as being self-contained does not make it so. You are talking about drug use on a systemic level. I don't "rationalize drug use as being self-contained", I rationalize drug use by Barack Obama as being self-contained. If Barack Obama had never purchased marijuana when he was young, literally nothing would have changed about the drug market and its effect on people. Had Romney not harassed people when he was young, however, people would not have been harassed. (also, it's possible to grow your own marijuana - not all marijuana consumption is linked to Mexican drug cartels, and I don't know how Obama got his) The important thing about Romney's history terrorizing people isn't the impact it had on individuals, its the insights it gave into his upbringing and who he is as a person. His behavior was enabled by his wealthy father, endorsed by his wealthy father. It shows that he was raised to abuse his money and power and to not pay too much attention to how it impacts the little guy. This was the kind of example that was set for him growing up and he has shown such tendencies time and time again in various interviews and whatnot. While the specific event and the impact it had on those people isn't very substantial in the big picture, it was really telling of Romney's upbringing and gives a lot of hints as to who he is now. This is a much better argument. However I still think it's somewhat of a stretch to say it is telling as to who he is now. Romney has lived a life where he has had a lot of different and interesting opportunities to interact with others. He's had time to grow up, is what I'm saying. While I think it's fair to say he had a somewhat privileged upbringing, I'm not sure how much I look at this as a reflection of who he is today. He was a teenager at the time this happened, and he's done a lot of things since then -- none of which really hint at this being a theme in his behavior. I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt on this one.
Being a deviant teenager is very different from being raised and enabled by your father to run around abusing the fact that you are essentially a different breed of human by having so much money and power. His "position" in life was obviously very strongly reinforced through his upbringing. My point is that when you look at how he was raised, how he behaved, and then all the things he's said that make you wonder if he can even hear himself talk, it really doesn't seem like he's changed much. And keep in mind that the things that he says that make people go O____o are the things that slip by. We all know Romney to essentially be a chameleon who says what he thinks it optimal to say. And even despite that, he still leaks some of these things (friends who own teams, etc). If it weren't for all his times where he can't seem to grasp how extremely fortunate he is, I would see your point as possible. But when you piece everything together, I can not see any possible way that he can truly understand the struggles of anyone other than the rich.
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