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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 07 2012 05:53 GMT
#26881
On November 07 2012 14:46 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 14:45 Probe1 wrote:
It's not like anyone will ever or has ever remembered what a candidate said in a concession speech. He would have to blame his loss on aliens from Venus for us to remember it for longer than 3 weeks.


History dummy, it's honestly the last impression he leaves the country because people rarely ever give a damn about them afterwards.

We never heard of Al Gore, John Kerry or John McCain ever again? I disagree.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
tekos44
Profile Joined June 2011
France280 Posts
November 07 2012 05:53 GMT
#26882
On November 07 2012 14:47 Fueled wrote:
Romney GGs, but starts to talk Obama about why he lost and how he can beat his strat next game.


"straight build order loss, you started as president :/"
"republicans sucks, never win any tournament lately"
"latinos imba, need nerf asap"
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 05:54:29
November 07 2012 05:53 GMT
#26883
On November 07 2012 14:47 hypercube wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 14:37 paralleluniverse wrote:
On November 07 2012 14:35 hypercube wrote:
On November 07 2012 14:22 paralleluniverse wrote:
On November 07 2012 14:11 Stutters695 wrote:
Is Nate Silver going 50/50 again?

He went 49/50 last time.

It looks like 50/50 this time.


To be fair a better score would be something around 46. Giving Obama a 50.3% chance of winning Florida should be worth 0.503 points, not 1. Of course his opponents wouldn't have given him that slack so I understand the sentiment.

The reason he gave FL a 50.3% is because it's very very close.

And it is. It adds, not detracts, to the correctness of his prediction.


But he didn't say he would get 50% of the vote and win by a small margin. He said there's a 50.3% chance he would win. I.e it's pretty much a tossup and he doesn't have a strong opinion either way. The correct reading is that he actually didn't predict a winner for Florida.

Of course the data just didn't allow a more confident prediction. But given the same amount of data a more confident prediction is more impressive than a less confident one (as long as it's actually turn out to be right).

Both the vote share and probability of winning were close.

Vote share:
Running one last projection based on this AM's polls. Our projected margin in Florida now Obama 49.797, Romney 49.775.

Source:

I agree if it said that it was 95% it will be Obama 49.797, Romney 49.775, then it would be more impressive. But my point is that it was predicted to be very very close.
NPF
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1635 Posts
November 07 2012 05:54 GMT
#26884
On November 07 2012 14:50 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed

So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate?

Romney wasn't liberal on social issues. Extremists in his party also tainted him by association. Reps only hope is to be more moderate next go-around.


Or as CNN mentionned, don't have 20 primary debates which can destroy your candidate since he had to take a more stern conservative voice, then go to the middle. That's just painted him a target.
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
November 07 2012 05:54 GMT
#26885
On November 07 2012 14:51 Probe1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 14:47 Iodem wrote:
On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed

So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate?


out of the nominees, John Huntsman probably had the best shot of beating Obama.

Ron Paul was probably the only other person that could do it.

..........

You can't be serious. John Huntsman is who again? Oh
Show nested quote +
But after a few days in South Carolina, where some polls had Huntsman trailing every other Republican candidate and even comedian Stephen Colbert, "it became clear that there wasn't a path forward," Miller said.


The guy that trailed behind Stephen Colbert. And Ron Paul doesn't translate outside of the internet sorry to say X_X


Huntsman and Paul types have more trouble in the nomination process than the actual election process.

The republican establishment is very hard to beat. They wanted Romney in, and bent over backwards to keep Paul uninvolved, even changing the rules at the last second to prevent him from being granted the delegates he won from 5 states by making the requirement for nomination be 7 states.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
November 07 2012 05:54 GMT
#26886
that is a SHIT load of american flags on that stage.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
November 07 2012 05:54 GMT
#26887
Does anyone have a livestream for me?

Would like to hear his speech as well.
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
November 07 2012 05:54 GMT
#26888
Is there a link for the concession speech?
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
November 07 2012 05:54 GMT
#26889
http://www.baqi.tv/2011/10/watch-fox-news-live/

Fox news is the stream I have. Romney should be coming up soon.
Yargh
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 05:55:07
November 07 2012 05:55 GMT
#26890
NYT front page.

nytimes.com
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
November 07 2012 05:55 GMT
#26891
That's like saying I'm really good lategame but getting supply blocked for the first ten minutes lol.
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 07 2012 05:55 GMT
#26892
On November 07 2012 14:52 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 14:51 Probe1 wrote:
On November 07 2012 14:47 Iodem wrote:
On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed

So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate?


out of the nominees, John Huntsman probably had the best shot of beating Obama.

Ron Paul was probably the only other person that could do it.

..........

You can't be serious. John Huntsman is who again? Oh
But after a few days in South Carolina, where some polls had Huntsman trailing every other Republican candidate and even comedian Stephen Colbert, "it became clear that there wasn't a path forward," Miller said.


The guy that trailed behind Stephen Colbert. And Ron Paul doesn't translate outside of the internet sorry to say X_X


Huntsman would have won. He's moderate enough to take voters from Obama, and Romneys voters would vote for Huntsman if he was the only choice against Obama.

He trailed Colbert because he's too moderate.


Tim Pawlenty probably also would have won had he not gotten out of the race so early. Though there was no real way to predict that peopel would change there minds so many times on who they would vote for in that primary.
seiferoth10
Profile Joined May 2010
3362 Posts
November 07 2012 05:55 GMT
#26893
On November 07 2012 14:54 m4inbrain wrote:
Does anyone have a livestream for me?

Would like to hear his speech as well.

Youtube.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 05:55:22
November 07 2012 05:55 GMT
#26894
BBC host on Romney:
"How do you say things you don't believe and then deny them?"

lol
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
November 07 2012 05:55 GMT
#26895
AND HERE HE COMES!!
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
November 07 2012 05:55 GMT
#26896
Ah Romney finally came out
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11328 Posts
November 07 2012 05:55 GMT
#26897
CBC unless it's regional locked
http://www.cbc.ca/news/live/2012/11/america-votes-election-night.html
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
November 07 2012 05:55 GMT
#26898
HERE WE GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No Artosis, you are robin
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
November 07 2012 05:55 GMT
#26899
Here we go with Romneys speech
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
November 07 2012 05:55 GMT
#26900
Oregon didn't legalize weed


I'm sad to say that Washington is now a superior state.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
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