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Hello, this post is about the election but specifically about my state.
WARNING: Drugs and homosexuality in spoiler. You may turn back now.
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On November 07 2012 14:44 StarStruck wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:41 SgtCoDFish wrote:
Haha, BBC news a reporter goes to interview two people sitting on a couch saying they have "different views"
One on the left is a white woman, 60+
One on the right is a black young man, probably about 20 and clearly gay
I WONDER WHICH ONE IS THE REPUBLICAN
and the woman just called the US communist, lol Yeah, cringeworthy. At least the guy knew what was up.
Idd, I started facepalming as soon as I heard her voice..
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On November 07 2012 14:49 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:48 Fueled wrote:Bill Weir @BillWeirABC
Check that...Romney will concede at 12:55 EST. So right now? lol.
Like 6 minutes or so from now.
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On November 07 2012 14:49 Zooper31 wrote:
So right now? lol.
5 minutes from now
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On November 07 2012 14:49 Falling wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate? But Bush was no tea party style candidate. He was one of those compassionate conservatives and had a pretty intrusive government, tax cuts aside.
He also was one of the only Republicans who was trying to do comprehensive immigration reform which is probably the one thing they need to pass because otherwise they wont be able to win a presidential election again with how country is changing.
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Is it bad that I'm secretly hoping Romney just has a nervous breakdown on stage?
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On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate?
Romney wasn't liberal on social issues. Extremists in his party also tainted him by association. Reps only hope is to be more moderate next go-around.
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On November 07 2012 14:47 hypercube wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:37 paralleluniverse wrote:On November 07 2012 14:35 hypercube wrote:On November 07 2012 14:22 paralleluniverse wrote:On November 07 2012 14:11 Stutters695 wrote:
Is Nate Silver going 50/50 again? He went 49/50 last time. It looks like 50/50 this time. To be fair a better score would be something around 46. Giving Obama a 50.3% chance of winning Florida should be worth 0.503 points, not 1. Of course his opponents wouldn't have given him that slack so I understand the sentiment. The reason he gave FL a 50.3% is because it's very very close. And it is. It adds, not detracts, to the correctness of his prediction. But he didn't say he would get 50% of the vote and win by a small margin. He said there's a 50.3% chance he would win. I.e it's pretty much a tossup and he doesn't have a strong opinion either way. The correct reading is that he actually didn't predict a winner for Florida. Of course the data just didn't allow a more confident prediction. But given the same amount of data a more confident prediction is more impressive than a less confident one (as long as it's actually turn out to be right).
You need basic understanding of statistics...
Correctly predict the toss up result does not mean you are right, just you are lucky. Correctly predicting a state where everyone thought would go to Romney as a toss up is impressive.
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On November 07 2012 14:50 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Is it bad that I'm secretly hoping Romney just has a nervous breakdown on stage?
No. I'm waiting something good also.
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On November 07 2012 14:47 Iodem wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate? out of the nominees, John Huntsman probably had the best shot of beating Obama. Ron Paul was probably the only other person that could do it.
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You can't be serious. John Huntsman is who again? Oh
But after a few days in South Carolina, where some polls had Huntsman trailing every other Republican candidate and even comedian Stephen Colbert, "it became clear that there wasn't a path forward," Miller said.
The guy that trailed behind Stephen Colbert. And Ron Paul doesn't translate outside of the internet sorry to say X_X
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On November 07 2012 14:48 Graviton wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate? All three are more conservative than Reagan, funnily enough. They need to start appealing to more moderate base (John Huntsman 2016).
I'd say Reagan was more conservative than all of them. George W Bush tried to seem moderate (compassionate conservativism) in 2000, McCain's the maverick, romney's just vanilla.
Reagan started trickle down economics, slashing welfare, huge defense budgets.
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On November 07 2012 14:47 igotmyown wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:40 Hrrrrm wrote:
AP officially calls Virginia for Obama. Still Romney refusing to concede. He will be judged in these final hours and how he handles his defeat. So far no good. History does not remember what losers do (except for weird cases like Gore). Does anyone older than 20 remember how Bob Dole conceded?
I do. He got beat down and gave a very boring concession speech in a timely manner.
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On November 07 2012 14:50 Adreme wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:49 Falling wrote:On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate? But Bush was no tea party style candidate. He was one of those compassionate conservatives and had a pretty intrusive government, tax cuts aside. He also was one of the only Republicans who was trying to do comprehensive immigration reform which is probably the one thing they need to pass because otherwise they wont be able to win a presidential election again with how country is changing.
I think 9-11 really screwed over his entire presidency and the direction he wanted to go with it.
But then he did some weird things like medicare part-D.
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On November 07 2012 14:51 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:50 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Is it bad that I'm secretly hoping Romney just has a nervous breakdown on stage? No. I'm waiting something good also.
Hopefully he starts talking to an empty podium.
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On November 07 2012 14:47 Iodem wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate? out of the nominees, John Huntsman probably had the best shot of beating Obama. Ron Paul was probably the only other person that could do it. Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:47 Flakes wrote:On November 07 2012 14:46 JinDesu wrote:On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate? That's what Fox was saying. On the other hand, I heavily disagree with it. Look at why Perry, Bachmann, and Santorum lost to Mitt. Compared to the rest of the world, Obama is moderate and Romney is radical conservative Could you explain further? I hear this a lot but never see examples.
Well I vote Conservative in Canada. But our Conservative party would never touch our single-payer healthcare. The most they would do is add private alternatives for elective surgeries and the like. Democrats in US can't even get single payer healthcare.
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Romney is communing with his masters on Kolob right now.
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On November 07 2012 14:51 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:47 Iodem wrote:On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate? out of the nominees, John Huntsman probably had the best shot of beating Obama. Ron Paul was probably the only other person that could do it. .......... You can't be serious. John Huntsman is who again? Oh Show nested quote +But after a few days in South Carolina, where some polls had Huntsman trailing every other Republican candidate and even comedian Stephen Colbert, "it became clear that there wasn't a path forward," Miller said. The guy that trailed behind Stephen Colbert. And Ron Paul doesn't translate outside of the internet sorry to say X_X
Jon Huntsman is pretty much Mitt Romney but without the flip flopping, a record of bipartisanship, and a head for foreign policy. His debate with Gingrich on foreign policy was the only moment of meaningful conversation of this election cycle.
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On November 07 2012 14:51 tomatriedes wrote:
Romney is communing with his masters on Kolob right now.
Ahahaha
seriously though if he shows any emotions at all I'll be impressed
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On November 07 2012 14:51 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:47 Iodem wrote:On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate? out of the nominees, John Huntsman probably had the best shot of beating Obama. Ron Paul was probably the only other person that could do it. .......... You can't be serious. John Huntsman is who again? Oh Show nested quote +But after a few days in South Carolina, where some polls had Huntsman trailing every other Republican candidate and even comedian Stephen Colbert, "it became clear that there wasn't a path forward," Miller said. The guy that trailed behind Stephen Colbert. And Ron Paul doesn't translate outside of the internet sorry to say X_X
Huntsman would have won. He's moderate enough to take voters from Obama, and Romneys voters would vote for Huntsman if he was the only choice against Obama.
He trailed Colbert because he's too moderate.
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