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On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate?
No. Jesus fuck, NO. If they do this they'll lose even WORSE. They need to abandon their idiotic social policies so the election can actually be about the economy.
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On November 07 2012 14:46 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate? That's what Fox was saying. On the other hand, I heavily disagree with it. Look at why Perry, Bachmann, and Santorum lost to Mitt.
Compared to the rest of the world, Obama is moderate and Romney is radical conservative
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On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate?
out of the nominees, John Huntsman probably had the best shot of beating Obama.
Ron Paul was probably the only other person that could do it.
On November 07 2012 14:47 Flakes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:46 JinDesu wrote:On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate? That's what Fox was saying. On the other hand, I heavily disagree with it. Look at why Perry, Bachmann, and Santorum lost to Mitt. Compared to the rest of the world, Obama is moderate and Romney is radical conservative
Could you explain further? I hear this a lot but never see examples.
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On November 07 2012 14:40 Hrrrrm wrote:
AP officially calls Virginia for Obama. Still Romney refusing to concede. He will be judged in these final hours and how he handles his defeat. So far no good.
History does not remember what losers do (except for weird cases like Gore). Does anyone older than 20 remember how Bob Dole conceded?
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On November 07 2012 14:37 paralleluniverse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:35 hypercube wrote:On November 07 2012 14:22 paralleluniverse wrote:On November 07 2012 14:11 Stutters695 wrote:
Is Nate Silver going 50/50 again? He went 49/50 last time. It looks like 50/50 this time. To be fair a better score would be something around 46. Giving Obama a 50.3% chance of winning Florida should be worth 0.503 points, not 1. Of course his opponents wouldn't have given him that slack so I understand the sentiment. The reason he gave FL a 50.3% is because it's very very close. And it is. It adds, not detracts, to the correctness of his prediction.
But he didn't say he would get 50% of the vote and win by a small margin. He said there's a 50.3% chance he would win. I.e it's pretty much a tossup and he doesn't have a strong opinion either way. The correct reading is that he actually didn't predict a winner for Florida.
Of course the data just didn't allow a more confident prediction. But given the same amount of data a more confident prediction is more impressive than a less confident one (as long as it's actually turn out to be right).
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Romney GGs, but starts to talk Obama about why he lost and how he can beat his strat next game.
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On November 07 2012 14:46 Stylus wrote:
10 minutes until the highlight of the year!
Honestly, the bubble he must've lived in had to be astounding. Guy didn't even win a single battleground state and probably would've lost North Carolina if Obama spend any money there. Bubble be popping!
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On November 07 2012 14:46 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate? That's what Fox was saying. On the other hand, I heavily disagree with it. Look at why Perry, Bachmann, and Santorum lost to Mitt.
I'm not sure they can look at it. They seem to think Paul Ryan is the future of the party, despite not being able to win his home state either and looking like an idiot on the trail and giving nothing positive to the campaign.
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On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate?
All three are more conservative than Reagan, funnily enough. They need to start appealing to more moderate base (John Huntsman 2016).
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Errors happen. A crap ton of vote just were not just not counted at my pooling place due to error. All those votes were for Obama. But it was in Chicago, so no one cares.
This has been said and proven countless times, voter fraud just doesn't happen at anything close of a meaningful level. International election monitors have been watching the US sense 2002, and not found one speck of meaningful voter fraud. I doubt Mr YouTube had cracked this case.
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On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate?
god i hope they do, id love the dems with get a free win
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Bill Weir @BillWeirABC
Check that...Romney will concede at 12:55 EST.
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Here in MN with 61% reporting Bachman and graves are tied up 50/50. Hope she gets dumped but that is by far the most conservative district in my state. DON'T LET ME DOWN
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On November 07 2012 14:48 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:46 JinDesu wrote:On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate? That's what Fox was saying. On the other hand, I heavily disagree with it. Look at why Perry, Bachmann, and Santorum lost to Mitt. I'm not sure they can look at it. They seem to think Paul Ryan is the future of the party, despite not being able to win his home state either and looking like an idiot on the trail and giving nothing positive to the campaign.
Give me Marco Rubio please... that's a reasonable Republican that I can listen to.
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On November 07 2012 14:46 asoka wrote:
Obama has his hands off the keyboard like when Scarlett was beating bomber last weekend.
Probably going to give the speech with his knee raised the whole time too to add insult to injury.
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On November 07 2012 14:45 Orek wrote:
Bush won
McCain failed
Romney failed
So, relatively liberal Republican has hard time winning vs Democrat? Next time around, they might try more tea party style candidate?
But Bush was no tea party style candidate. He was one of those compassionate conservatives and had a pretty intrusive government, tax cuts aside.
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On November 07 2012 14:47 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:46 Stylus wrote:
10 minutes until the highlight of the year! Honestly, the bubble he must've lived in had to be astounding. Guy didn't even win a single battleground state and probably would've lost North Carolina if Obama spend any money there. Bubble be popping!
I'm from NC and I can say with some certainty Obama spent an enormous amount of money in NC. I maybe saw 5 Romney ads, and I saw around 50 Obama ads. It was a close race, give the guy some credit.
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If Santorum was picked it would gave a supermajorty back to the dems in the senate and lost them the house.
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Bill Weir @BillWeirABC
Check that...Romney will concede at 12:55 EST.
So right now? lol.
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On November 07 2012 14:47 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2012 14:43 slicknav wrote:On November 07 2012 14:42 Zooper31 wrote:On November 07 2012 14:41 slicknav wrote:On November 07 2012 14:40 Hrrrrm wrote:
AP officially calls Virginia for Obama. Still Romney refusing to concede. He will be judged in these final hours and how he handles his defeat. So far no good. He's probably compiling his concession speech. And why didn't he have this alrdy written out? Was he really so confident that he had no backup plan to adjust for the ONLY OTHER OUTCOME. If you believe you're going to win, why waste time preparing for a loss? Because true leaders will have a backup plan for the worst of times ffs. Especially when it's the only other outcome that could've happened. He just needs to get his head together, replace some words if he was naming states or other races and say GG WP. It shouldn't take all night.
Its only been ~90 minutes since networks called it for Obama, Do you expect Romney to give his concession speech immediately after the numbers are in?
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