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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44052 Posts
November 07 2012 03:44 GMT
#25941
On November 07 2012 12:42 Lyter wrote:
90% counted and 49.9% for Obama to 49.3% Romney in Florida apparently


So it's basically a matter of Obama pulling away more than .5% so that a recount doesn't need to occur. Romney may be able to force the recount, but I don't see him getting a win on the first try here.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
November 07 2012 03:45 GMT
#25942
On November 07 2012 12:42 julianto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:36 jpak wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:35 babylon wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:34 wunsun wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:33 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:31 Infernal Knight wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:30 paralleluniverse wrote:
Too bad there's isn't much more conservatives on TL.

More QQ would have been so fun much.


I know it's been asked a few times, but where IS XDaunt? I had thought he'd be here.

He was hear a while ago, basically surrendered.

And conservatives are rare here because the tend to get crucified by a sea of "straw liberals" every single time. Which sucks because there's plenty of people willing to have an intelligent conversation, but a handful of arrogant people on each side make it nigh impossible.


I'm guessing that age group that frequents TL, most of the people are liberals?

Yes. Younger people tend to be more liberal.

And young people have been more active in voting in recent years.

The Republican party of the future will consist of kids who've grown up and watched SouthPark to get their political opinions.


yeah and the democratic party is based around kids who grew up watching the daily show.
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
November 07 2012 03:45 GMT
#25943
On November 07 2012 12:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:42 Lyter wrote:
90% counted and 49.9% for Obama to 49.3% Romney in Florida apparently


So it's basically a matter of Obama pulling away more than .5% so that a recount doesn't need to occur. Romney may be able to force the recount, but I don't see him getting a win on the first try here.


Even with a recount making up that many votes will be hard.
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
November 07 2012 03:45 GMT
#25944
On November 07 2012 12:45 Tewks44 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:42 julianto wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:36 jpak wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:35 babylon wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:34 wunsun wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:33 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:31 Infernal Knight wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:30 paralleluniverse wrote:
Too bad there's isn't much more conservatives on TL.

More QQ would have been so fun much.


I know it's been asked a few times, but where IS XDaunt? I had thought he'd be here.

He was hear a while ago, basically surrendered.

And conservatives are rare here because the tend to get crucified by a sea of "straw liberals" every single time. Which sucks because there's plenty of people willing to have an intelligent conversation, but a handful of arrogant people on each side make it nigh impossible.


I'm guessing that age group that frequents TL, most of the people are liberals?

Yes. Younger people tend to be more liberal.

And young people have been more active in voting in recent years.

The Republican party of the future will consist of kids who've grown up and watched SouthPark to get their political opinions.


yeah and the democratic party is based around kids who grew up watching the daily show.


So we all have a sense of humor. That's good!
Yargh
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
November 07 2012 03:45 GMT
#25945
Sheldon Adelson donated 70 million to Romney Super PACs.

Tee hee.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 03:46:12
November 07 2012 03:45 GMT
#25946
MINNESOTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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Stylus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States157 Posts
November 07 2012 03:46 GMT
#25947
On November 07 2012 12:43 Waio wrote:
Did anyone else see the ad on CNN about the old dude who grew up in socialism? Is that for real? is he comparing Democrats with SOCIALISTS?


Interestingly enough, he also happens to be a billionaire.
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
November 07 2012 03:46 GMT
#25948
On November 07 2012 12:43 Waio wrote:
Did anyone else see the ad on CNN about the old dude who grew up in socialism? Is that for real? is he comparing Democrats with SOCIALISTS?


Americans (specifically the right) tend to exaggerate left leaning political groups. Democrats are socialists. Socialists are communists. And true communists are evil incarnate.
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
November 07 2012 03:46 GMT
#25949
On November 07 2012 12:43 Waio wrote:
Did anyone else see the ad on CNN about the old dude who grew up in socialism? Is that for real? is he comparing Democrats with SOCIALISTS?


Republicans have compared Democrats to socialists/communists to get the Cuban vote down here in Miami Florida for decades.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
November 07 2012 03:46 GMT
#25950
On November 07 2012 12:42 RCMDVA wrote:

I've totally missed out on zero of 51 precints not reporting in Norfolk, VA.

Obama has a good shot to win Virginia now if he does 60%+ there. He did 70/30 in 2008.


Bookies strongly favour a Democrat victory in Virginia. Obama to win there is down to 1.3, Romney out to 3.2 now to take Virginia. This is a big change from a few minutes ago, where Democrats winning Virginia was at 1.7 or so.

http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/politics-and-election/us-presidential-election/to-win-virginia
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18820 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 03:46:53
November 07 2012 03:46 GMT
#25951
On November 07 2012 12:45 Defacer wrote:
Sheldon Adelson donated 70 million to Romney Super PACs.

Tee hee.

Oh my God I know. Every time elections are over, I look back on all the millions upon millions spent and it all seems so incredible.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
November 07 2012 03:46 GMT
#25952
On November 07 2012 12:39 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:37 Romantic wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:34 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:32 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:30 Chocolate wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:29 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:22 forgottendreams wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:20 dAPhREAk wrote:
[quote]
curious how it breaks down between bachelors, masters, phd. im not surprised that more non-high school grads vote democrat.


IIRC its a sliding scale, the higher the degree the more democrat.


I'm pretty sure there's a pretty strong positive correlation between intelligence and being liberal. Googling "correlation between intelligence and liberal" gave me some interesting stuff.

yes, this is what i hear from liberals.

Arguing against scientific studies is also something I hear from conservatives.

Then post the scientific studies, dammit.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/09/03/conservatives-and-liberals-have-different-brains-studies-show/

A more interesting study would be how willing people are to believe something if that something strokes their ego.


Tolerating uncertainty is not necessarily good, being afraid not necessarily bad. I don't understand what this is supposed to prove.

With regard to the flawed perception of a "reason vs. emotion" dichotomy, people espouse a clear preference.


I wouldn't disagree if someone said I was less tolerant of uncertainty than most or that I was more afraid. I don't think either of those things are bad; I tend to think I am fairly rational. Tolerating uncertainty doesn't even seem rational, it is just acceptance of risk. I'll pull the communism card; many people probably should have been more afraid and less tolerant of communist ideology. Conservatives were right on that one.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 03:48:21
November 07 2012 03:46 GMT
#25953
On November 07 2012 12:41 Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:40 paralleluniverse wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:38 koreasilver wrote:
For all the economy talk that people bring up with Romney, Romney never showed any substantive when it comes to the economy in any of his plans. Really meaningless talking point.

He didn't even have a plan.

He didn't specify any spending cuts. He claims he'll close $5T of loopholes, and he hasn't named a single loophole he would close.


Presidents don't write legislation. That is his point. He could make a bunch of promises and then disappoint people like Obama, or he can say he would work with Congress and lay out his guiding principles. He chose the second one, which I think is better.

Presidents write budgets, Obama has one, it's got 250 pages of detail. Romney doesn't have anything, he wouldn't name anything at all, so how are people suppose to judge his "plan"? He's tax principles are mathematically impossible. He's response? Of course it adds up. Then, show us how.

He's not naming anything because if Romney says he'll close whatever loophole or cut whatever spending, people who rely on that would recoil.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 03:48:50
November 07 2012 03:47 GMT
#25954
On November 07 2012 12:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:42 Lyter wrote:
90% counted and 49.9% for Obama to 49.3% Romney in Florida apparently


So it's basically a matter of Obama pulling away more than .5% so that a recount doesn't need to occur. Romney may be able to force the recount, but I don't see him getting a win on the first try here.


And we still have 30% of Miami-Dade and 16% of Broward. As well as St. Lucie with 35% left leaning Obama. The red counties are smaller and have 11% or less to go.

Edit: Whoops, except Lee.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
November 07 2012 03:47 GMT
#25955
On November 07 2012 12:42 julianto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:36 jpak wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:35 babylon wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:34 wunsun wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:33 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:31 Infernal Knight wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:30 paralleluniverse wrote:
Too bad there's isn't much more conservatives on TL.

More QQ would have been so fun much.


I know it's been asked a few times, but where IS XDaunt? I had thought he'd be here.

He was hear a while ago, basically surrendered.

And conservatives are rare here because the tend to get crucified by a sea of "straw liberals" every single time. Which sucks because there's plenty of people willing to have an intelligent conversation, but a handful of arrogant people on each side make it nigh impossible.


I'm guessing that age group that frequents TL, most of the people are liberals?

Yes. Younger people tend to be more liberal.

And young people have been more active in voting in recent years.

The Republican party of the future will consist of kids who've grown up and watched SouthPark to get their political opinions.

South Park isn't even Republican. It's libertarian.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
November 07 2012 03:47 GMT
#25956
On November 07 2012 12:45 Defacer wrote:
Sheldon Adelson donated 70 million to Romney Super PACs.

Tee hee.


Small amount for Sheldon. :p
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 03:48:19
November 07 2012 03:48 GMT
#25957
ooops i failed to notice that most of the precincts still counting are prob suburbs in miami-dade. romney will have about 80-100k there to gain while obama has only 70k.

florida might still go to romney, if not, then certainly likely to go into recount
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
November 07 2012 03:48 GMT
#25958
On November 07 2012 12:44 Chairman Ray wrote:
Where is everyone watching this? I'm watching the live stream at telegraph.co.uk, but I don't know much about the best sources. What do you guys recommend?


I was watching the NBC affiliate in Toledo, but I switched to CNN; John King ftw
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 03:48:57
November 07 2012 03:48 GMT
#25959
On November 07 2012 12:44 HULKAMANIA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:37 HULKAMANIA wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:32 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:30 Chocolate wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:29 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:22 forgottendreams wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:20 dAPhREAk wrote:
[quote]
curious how it breaks down between bachelors, masters, phd. im not surprised that more non-high school grads vote democrat.


IIRC its a sliding scale, the higher the degree the more democrat.


I'm pretty sure there's a pretty strong positive correlation between intelligence and being liberal. Googling "correlation between intelligence and liberal" gave me some interesting stuff.

yes, this is what i hear from liberals.

Arguing against scientific studies is also something I hear from conservatives.

Then post the scientific studies, dammit.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/09/03/conservatives-and-liberals-have-different-brains-studies-show/

Are you under the impression that you've posted a scientific study?

You mean peer reviewed studies don't count?

No. I mean that abc health blog pop news coverage of a metareview doesn't count. Do you understand the difference? That's more what I was trying to figure out.

If I asked you to post a short story by, say, Anton Chekov, would you post a review of a Chekov story and call it a day?

? They include links which source their claims to the actual studies. It's not rocket science, and it's not taken out of context.
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
November 07 2012 03:48 GMT
#25960
Called it. Obama win.
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/FL
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