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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
November 07 2012 03:42 GMT
#25921
On November 07 2012 12:39 Tewks44 wrote:
If you're not an expert in economics, please refrain from talking about economics. There is nothing more annoying than reading posts that are completely off base and based on a "hunch" or something you heard once from this guy who read it in the news one time a few months ago. Seriously, the greatest economists in the world disagree on how the economy functions, stop acting like you have it all figured out.

Some economic theories are clearly more obvious and widely accepted than others. Much of lower level economics is basically logical truisms, and yet people often reject even those.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 03:44:17
November 07 2012 03:42 GMT
#25922
On November 07 2012 12:41 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:37 HULKAMANIA wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:32 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:30 Chocolate wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:29 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:22 forgottendreams wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:20 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:18 tedster wrote:
[quote]

tons of "not a high school graduate" are immigrants

curious how it breaks down between bachelors, masters, phd. im not surprised that more non-high school grads vote democrat.


IIRC its a sliding scale, the higher the degree the more democrat.


I'm pretty sure there's a pretty strong positive correlation between intelligence and being liberal. Googling "correlation between intelligence and liberal" gave me some interesting stuff.

yes, this is what i hear from liberals.

Arguing against scientific studies is also something I hear from conservatives.

Then post the scientific studies, dammit.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/09/03/conservatives-and-liberals-have-different-brains-studies-show/

Are you under the impression that you've posted a scientific study?

*whispers* maybe he's really a conservative after all
it's an aggregate of 16 studies. the aggregate isn't reviewed itself obviously.

but this result is not surprising

edit: mostly because of the identification of conservativism with tradition following
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 03:43:01
November 07 2012 03:42 GMT
#25923
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46668 Posts
November 07 2012 03:42 GMT
#25924
On November 07 2012 12:33 jdseemoreglass wrote:
"If X, then it's over."
"If Y, then it's over."
"If Z or W, then it's over."

Newsflash: it was over weeks ago. Maybe even months.


Sure, many of us predicted that Obama had this (albeit by just a little), but Florida and Ohio are just about to be called for Obama, which will actually be the final two nails in the coffin for Romney. I think those concrete numbers send a much clearer message.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 07 2012 03:42 GMT
#25925
On November 07 2012 12:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:37 HULKAMANIA wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:32 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:30 Chocolate wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:29 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:22 forgottendreams wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:20 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:18 tedster wrote:
[quote]

tons of "not a high school graduate" are immigrants

curious how it breaks down between bachelors, masters, phd. im not surprised that more non-high school grads vote democrat.


IIRC its a sliding scale, the higher the degree the more democrat.


I'm pretty sure there's a pretty strong positive correlation between intelligence and being liberal. Googling "correlation between intelligence and liberal" gave me some interesting stuff.

yes, this is what i hear from liberals.

Arguing against scientific studies is also something I hear from conservatives.

Then post the scientific studies, dammit.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/09/03/conservatives-and-liberals-have-different-brains-studies-show/

Are you under the impression that you've posted a scientific study?

You mean peer reviewed studies don't count?

you can slap "peer reviewed" on shit, and its still shit. this doesnt even appear to be a study, it appears to be a literature review.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 07 2012 03:42 GMT
#25926
On November 07 2012 12:40 paralleluniverse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:38 koreasilver wrote:
For all the economy talk that people bring up with Romney, Romney never showed any substantive when it comes to the economy in any of his plans. Really meaningless talking point.

He didn't even have a plan.

He didn't specify any spending cuts. He claims he'll close $5T of loopholes, and he hasn't named a single loophole he would close.

Exactly. What mathematically sound plan did he ever propose? Can a republican who voted for him because of it please link one or is it just based on his promises?
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 03:45:42
November 07 2012 03:42 GMT
#25927
I've totally missed out on zero of 51 precincts not reporting in Norfolk, VA.

Obama has a good shot to win Virginia now if he does 60%+ there. He did 70/30 in 2008.
Lyter
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2145 Posts
November 07 2012 03:42 GMT
#25928
90% counted and 49.9% for Obama to 49.3% Romney in Florida apparently
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10348 Posts
November 07 2012 03:42 GMT
#25929
On November 07 2012 12:41 oneofthem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:40 paralleluniverse wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:38 koreasilver wrote:
For all the economy talk that people bring up with Romney, Romney never showed any substantive when it comes to the economy in any of his plans. Really meaningless talking point.

He didn't even have a plan.

He didn't specify any spending cuts. He claims he'll close $5T of loopholes, and he hasn't named a single loophole he would close.

he can identify several if he just asks his accountant

Last time I posted "OH SNAP" on TL, I was warned.

So instead I will say, pow right in the kisser?
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Waio
Profile Joined September 2010
Chile82 Posts
November 07 2012 03:43 GMT
#25930
Did anyone else see the ad on CNN about the old dude who grew up in socialism? Is that for real? is he comparing Democrats with SOCIALISTS?
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
November 07 2012 03:43 GMT
#25931
On November 07 2012 12:42 julianto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:36 jpak wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:35 babylon wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:34 wunsun wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:33 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:31 Infernal Knight wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:30 paralleluniverse wrote:
Too bad there's isn't much more conservatives on TL.

More QQ would have been so fun much.


I know it's been asked a few times, but where IS XDaunt? I had thought he'd be here.

He was hear a while ago, basically surrendered.

And conservatives are rare here because the tend to get crucified by a sea of "straw liberals" every single time. Which sucks because there's plenty of people willing to have an intelligent conversation, but a handful of arrogant people on each side make it nigh impossible.


I'm guessing that age group that frequents TL, most of the people are liberals?

Yes. Younger people tend to be more liberal.

And young people have been more active in voting in recent years.

The Republican party of the future will consist of kids who've grown up and watched SouthPark to get their political opinions.

And what's wrong with that?

South Park is VERY educational.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24809 Posts
November 07 2012 03:43 GMT
#25932
It seems like Hurricane Sandy is going to have a few effects over here in NY...

1) Lower voter turnout, so less popular vote going to Obama despite him getting the points for NYS.
2) Lower participation in more localized elections in places which were more damaged by Sandy. New Yorkers can vote by affidavit in places other than their normal polling area by the governor's executive order due to the large amount of displacement of people from their homes, but they won't be able to vote for any office that isn't on the ballot in the polling place they attend. Considering how difficult it is to get gas around here there will probably be a lot of this.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
November 07 2012 03:43 GMT
#25933
On November 07 2012 12:37 HULKAMANIA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:32 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:30 Chocolate wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:29 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:22 forgottendreams wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:20 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:18 tedster wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:16 dAPhREAk wrote:
[quote]
interesting. i thought democrats touted themselves as the more educated ones.


tons of "not a high school graduate" are immigrants

curious how it breaks down between bachelors, masters, phd. im not surprised that more non-high school grads vote democrat.


IIRC its a sliding scale, the higher the degree the more democrat.


I'm pretty sure there's a pretty strong positive correlation between intelligence and being liberal. Googling "correlation between intelligence and liberal" gave me some interesting stuff.

yes, this is what i hear from liberals.

Arguing against scientific studies is also something I hear from conservatives.

Then post the scientific studies, dammit.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/09/03/conservatives-and-liberals-have-different-brains-studies-show/

Are you under the impression that you've posted a scientific study?


because you couldn't be bothered to expend the minimum amount of effort looking for the actual studies, here's a link to the studies that were in the first few lines of the news article.

http://2012election.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=004818

if you can't be bothered to click the links on the individual studies I'll gladly post them for you individually.
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18874 Posts
November 07 2012 03:44 GMT
#25934
Minnesota to Obama!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
November 07 2012 03:44 GMT
#25935
On November 07 2012 12:35 a176 wrote:
Coldorado is close to legalizing marijuana.

http://results.enr.clarityelections.com/CO/43032/109519/en/summary.html# -> view all, 2nd last entry (amnd 64)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_Amendment_64_(2012)


Anyone who ever been to Colorado just went "Wait what? It wasn't legal??!"
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
November 07 2012 03:44 GMT
#25936
On November 07 2012 12:39 Tewks44 wrote:
If you're not an expert in economics, please refrain from talking about economics. There is nothing more annoying than reading posts that are completely off base and based on a "hunch" or something you heard once from this guy who read it in the news one time a few months ago. Seriously, the greatest economists in the world disagree on how the economy functions, stop acting like you have it all figured out.


But where's the fun in that?
=)=
HULKAMANIA
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States1219 Posts
November 07 2012 03:44 GMT
#25937
On November 07 2012 12:39 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:37 HULKAMANIA wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:32 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:30 Chocolate wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:29 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:29 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:22 forgottendreams wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:20 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:18 tedster wrote:
[quote]

tons of "not a high school graduate" are immigrants

curious how it breaks down between bachelors, masters, phd. im not surprised that more non-high school grads vote democrat.


IIRC its a sliding scale, the higher the degree the more democrat.


I'm pretty sure there's a pretty strong positive correlation between intelligence and being liberal. Googling "correlation between intelligence and liberal" gave me some interesting stuff.

yes, this is what i hear from liberals.

Arguing against scientific studies is also something I hear from conservatives.

Then post the scientific studies, dammit.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/09/03/conservatives-and-liberals-have-different-brains-studies-show/

Are you under the impression that you've posted a scientific study?

You mean peer reviewed studies don't count?

No. I mean that abc health blog pop news coverage of a metareview doesn't count. Do you understand the difference? That's more what I was trying to figure out.

If I asked you to post a short story by, say, Anton Chekov, would you post a review of a Chekov story and call it a day?
If it were not so, I would have told you.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
November 07 2012 03:44 GMT
#25938
On November 07 2012 12:43 Waio wrote:
Did anyone else see the ad on CNN about the old dude who grew up in socialism? Is that for real? is he comparing Democrats with SOCIALISTS?


That ad has been running a while. Pretty pathetic stuff.
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
November 07 2012 03:44 GMT
#25939
Where is everyone watching this? I'm watching the live stream at telegraph.co.uk, but I don't know much about the best sources. What do you guys recommend?
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10348 Posts
November 07 2012 03:44 GMT
#25940
On November 07 2012 12:43 jpak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 12:42 julianto wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:36 jpak wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:35 babylon wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:34 wunsun wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:33 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:31 Infernal Knight wrote:
On November 07 2012 12:30 paralleluniverse wrote:
Too bad there's isn't much more conservatives on TL.

More QQ would have been so fun much.


I know it's been asked a few times, but where IS XDaunt? I had thought he'd be here.

He was hear a while ago, basically surrendered.

And conservatives are rare here because the tend to get crucified by a sea of "straw liberals" every single time. Which sucks because there's plenty of people willing to have an intelligent conversation, but a handful of arrogant people on each side make it nigh impossible.


I'm guessing that age group that frequents TL, most of the people are liberals?

Yes. Younger people tend to be more liberal.

And young people have been more active in voting in recent years.

The Republican party of the future will consist of kids who've grown up and watched SouthPark to get their political opinions.

And what's wrong with that?

South Park is VERY educational.

Compared to most television shows and media, it regretfully is
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