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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
It's pretty good. Still affordable, and significantly cheaper for Canadians than going to the US. For international students, the tuition is comparable or cheaper than most state universities. U of T, McGill and UBC have excellent world rankings when you consider the cost. http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2012 | ||
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Swazi Spring
United States415 Posts
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
On October 26 2012 12:48 Defacer wrote: It's pretty good. Still affordable, and significantly cheaper for Canadians than going to the US. For international students, the tuition is comparable or cheaper than most state universities. U of T, McGill and UBC have excellent world rankings when you consider the cost. http://www.topuniversities.com/university-rankings/world-university-rankings/2012 how about for faculty? any idea? edit: because the US is starting to do a pretty good job of making it an attractive idea to look for a professorship in a different country... | ||
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Jumbled
1543 Posts
On October 26 2012 12:49 Swazi Spring wrote: Is Obama only running for re-election to troll the American people? His campaign ads certainly make it seem that way... It does rather highlight just how absurd his opponent is. | ||
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ZackAttack
United States884 Posts
How could someone that cute be so incredibly stupid? I think you must be new to Earth. | ||
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Swazi Spring
United States415 Posts
On October 26 2012 12:53 Jumbled wrote: It does rather highlight just how absurd his opponent is. The whole "Romney murdered my wife" ad was proven to be a complete lie. I suppose lies do make your opponent look "absurd" though. | ||
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Zaqwert
United States411 Posts
On October 26 2012 12:53 Jumbled wrote: It does rather highlight just how absurd his opponent is. LOL, Romney is an absurd farce and so is Obama. People drank the Kool Aid in 2008 thinking he was some sort of Messiah, at least this election cycle proves what a typical scumbag politican he is, regardless of whether he wins or not. | ||
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redpanda8
31 Posts
Anyway, I'm an atheist but what drives my vote is that I'm fiscally conservative. I don't care much for the social issues at all. The arguments and who determines them is broken. For example, my biggest view on women's rights - shouldn't women be leading the debating and determinations of women's rights and not old men? Who's body and rights are we discussing? Until issues like that is changed I don't give much of a damn about social issues. Note - this is not directed at any specific person on the atheist/liberal rant, but a recent poster did just jog my memory because of the "I'm an atheist!" pronunciation people seem so proud to announce. Reddit was pissing me off with this ignorant association of atheism and liberal party line ideas. TL seems better but not great in this regard either. | ||
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Leporello
United States2845 Posts
CEOs from more than 80 major U.S. companies are pressing Congress to reduce the federal deficit by raising taxes and cutting spending. The deficit and how to tame it has become a key theme in the presidential campaign. [...]They also seek federal investment in infrastructure and math and science education. Oh noes, America's CEOs have gone Commie. | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
On October 26 2012 12:32 Defacer wrote: LOL. They always say they will. But they never, never do. Remember when all those Republican representatives threw a hissy fit and threatened to move to Canada when Obama was trying to pass some proposal? Case in point lol. (Spoiler alert: they didn't go to Canada). Edit: Yeah let's let CEOs decide what's best! And let's make the players the referees. Surely if CEOs can afford their proposed tax increases the rest of America can too! | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
On October 26 2012 12:57 redpanda8 wrote: Could we not associate atheism with a liberal vote? The GOP has sort of shot itself in the foot with this one, a bit... That's a pretty entrenched polarization. What happens to American politics if fiscal conservative and religious conservative split? | ||
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Swazi Spring
United States415 Posts
On October 26 2012 12:57 redpanda8 wrote: Could we not associate atheism with a liberal vote? Couple instances in this thread, and especially sites like Reddit, where atheism means you're automatically liberal. Isn't that the blind leap of logic that atheists discard religion and religious books on? If your an atheist don't assume one way or the other please. All Republicans aren't bible thumpers, thanks. Anyway, I'm an atheist but what drives my vote is that I'm fiscally conservative. I don't care much for the social issues at all. The arguments and who determines them is broken. For example, my biggest view on women's rights - shouldn't women be leading the debating and determinations of women's rights and not old men? Who's body and rights are we discussing? Until issues like that is changed I don't give much of a damn about social issues. Note - this is not directed at any specific person on the atheist/liberal rant, but a recent poster did just jog my memory because of the "I'm an atheist!" pronunciation people seem so proud to announce. Reddit was pissing me off with this ignorant association of atheism and liberal party line ideas. TL seems better but not great in this regard either. I swear, you have no idea how many of my liberal friends brag about how "liberals are so much smarter than conservatives," because according to them, all liberals are atheists and all conservatives are Christians. | ||
Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
On October 26 2012 12:57 redpanda8 wrote: Could we not associate atheism with a liberal vote? Couple instances in this thread, and especially sites like Reddit, where atheism means you're automatically liberal. Isn't that the blind leap of logic that atheists discard religion and religious books on? If your an atheist don't assume one way or the other please. All Republicans aren't bible thumpers, thanks. Anyway, I'm an atheist but what drives my vote is that I'm fiscally conservative. I don't care much for the social issues at all. The arguments and who determines them is broken. For example, my biggest view on women's rights - shouldn't women be leading the debating and determinations of women's rights and not old men? Who's body and rights are we discussing? Until issues like that is changed I don't give much of a damn about social issues. Note - this is not directed at any specific person on the atheist/liberal rant, but a recent poster did just jog my memory because of the "I'm an atheist!" pronunciation people seem so proud to announce. Reddit was pissing me off with this ignorant association of atheism and liberal party line ideas. TL seems better but not great in this regard either. Well, my post was more about how an atheist would have no chance in hell of getting elected as President at the moment. I don't know what your post is driving at though. Atheists most likely do lean left in general, just as blacks lean left and gays lean left. There are always exceptions, as there are black Republicans and gay Republicans, but when people say something like "atheists are liberal" they're just speaking generally, which I feel is totally reasonable. | ||
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Lmui
Canada6215 Posts
On October 26 2012 12:50 sam!zdat wrote: how about for faculty? any idea? edit: because the US is starting to do a pretty good job of making it an attractive idea to look for a professorship in a different country... I'm in my third year of computer engineering at UBC. ~6.5-7k a year in tuition since I live at home (I take transit an hour each way every day since free transit via Upass is awesome). If you're an international student, expect to pay triple that + residency costs. From what I know, arts is a good bit cheaper. edit:: oh, you meant teaching there. Umm googling got me this: http://equity.ubc.ca/files/2010/06/salary_analysis.pdf | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On October 26 2012 12:49 Swazi Spring wrote: Is Obama only running for re-election to troll the American people? His campaign ads certainly make it seem that way... First of all, two of those are Super PAC ads ... And if you think that's trolling ... oh boy ... wait until you see this SHIZZAT! This video released today is courtesy of Newt Gingrinch -- the 'intellectual' of the Republican Party. This bad boy was released over the summer. | ||
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Souma
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
On October 26 2012 12:50 sam!zdat wrote: how about for faculty? any idea? edit: because the US is starting to do a pretty good job of making it an attractive idea to look for a professorship in a different country... So I have been correct in calling you Professor Sam. And here I thought I was just being cute. Edit: C'mon guys... We're really not at that level where we need to give meaning to ads, are we? | ||
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sam!zdat
United States5559 Posts
On October 26 2012 13:07 Souma wrote: So I have been correct in calling you Professor Sam. And here I thought I was just being cute. no, that title would be premature, unfortunately. We're thinking about the future here. Seriously, though, I think America should start worrying about brain drain... not that mine will be any great loss in particular. But conditions for academics are starting to get more precarious... | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On October 26 2012 13:07 Souma wrote: Edit: C'mon guys... We're really not at that level where we need to give meaning to ads, are we? Of course not. They're just hilarious. | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
On October 26 2012 12:57 redpanda8 wrote: Could we not associate atheism with a liberal vote? Couple instances in this thread, and especially sites like Reddit, where atheism means you're automatically liberal. Isn't that the blind leap of logic that atheists discard religion and religious books on? If your an atheist don't assume one way or the other please. All Republicans aren't bible thumpers, thanks. Anyway, I'm an atheist but what drives my vote is that I'm fiscally conservative. I don't care much for the social issues at all. The arguments and who determines them is broken. For example, my biggest view on women's rights - shouldn't women be leading the debating and determinations of women's rights and not old men? Who's body and rights are we discussing? Until issues like that is changed I don't give much of a damn about social issues. Note - this is not directed at any specific person on the atheist/liberal rant, but a recent poster did just jog my memory because of the "I'm an atheist!" pronunciation people seem so proud to announce. Reddit was pissing me off with this ignorant association of atheism and liberal party line ideas. TL seems better but not great in this regard either. I think the correlation is more based on feelings towards the individuals more than their policies. I mean this in the sense that even if you like what a person says, how can you trust somebody who draws their entire world view from a work of fiction. Basically the question is, does it only matter what somebody thinks or is it also important why they think it? For example, Ron Paul is a creationist. Even if you agree with his current foreign policy, can you trust that a person so immune to facts no matter how compelling and plentiful in one area of his life to be open to new ideas as new information comes to light? | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On October 26 2012 12:57 Swazi Spring wrote: The whole "Romney murdered my wife" ad was proven to be a complete lie. I suppose lies do make your opponent look "absurd" though. It's the old call-your-opponent-a-pig-fucker-and-make-him-deny-it trick. It did trigger an unforced error from the Romney camp though (xDaunt knows). | ||
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