EPTSex Abuse in the Military - Page 7
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TheDna
Germany577 Posts
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EienShinwa
United States655 Posts
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n3ac3y
United States108 Posts
While rape does happen in the military, there are loads of programs in place to prevent sexual assault and provide victims numerous means of reporting incidents if their chain of command is ass backwards. There is your immidiate chain of command, your NCO support channel, the chaplains all over the post, police officers both military/civilian as well as medical personal in the medical facilities. It's certainly not as dark and gloomy like they make it sound, you have tons of ways to report it, and 9/10 times they will completely move you to a different unit somewhere else in the country if you need. Media, like always, exaggerates the hell out of the situation within the Armed forces and it's sad when a lot of GREAT men and women get a terrible reputation when a small handful of losers do terrible shit to other. I don't really think it's fair at all. What's also not accounted for is the advantage given to the accuser. If a women says she was raped, and is labeled as a psychologically unstable she will net free money from tax-payers for life. If there was alcohol and some chick is with you and wants sex, and even says yes while intoxicated, then the next day goes and reports you for "rape".... well 90% of the time your career as a soldier is DONE and she will have her free ticket out of the army, money coming in everymonth till the day she dies. TL, there are two sides to everything. I'm sure women do get raped and it happens in our military just like in colleges, where the climate is similar, but I'm also positive that there is even a frightenly higher number of falsified incidents of rape reported. Edit: and for the record, I'm not gung-ho military, or anything like that. I'll be getting out next year, but this article is extreme, just like Afghanistan coverage. There is a story of a soldier who dove in front of a military vehicle to save a kid's life, only to save the child but have himself ran over and killed by the same vehicle. You'll never see those stories of soldiers doing really awesome things for a really shit war, just like this rape thread where it is made out to seem the military is this horrible rape factory where women are slabs of meat.  Love you all! | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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TheGeneralTheoryOf
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Blennd
United States266 Posts
On April 18 2012 16:40 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote: The military has a very strict top down structure for a reason - you are going to be ordering men to run into oncoming fire, which is basically the opposite of what you'd want to do. That's why you need to break soldiers when they join, to fully subordinate them to the chain of command. If you have people going outside of the chain of command then the whole structure breaks down. Yeah, it'd be chaos before you know it, people wouldn't know that they can rape people without repercussions without such a strict chain of command. | ||
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Velocirapture
United States983 Posts
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Sweetfrost
Sweden213 Posts
 These things make me so angry! | ||
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Jarree
Finland1004 Posts
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Prime`Rib
United States613 Posts
On April 18 2012 14:05 TheDna wrote: This is pretty disturbing, but its the US army.. I expect much worse things happening, torture and killing of innocent civilians was already made public. So it doesn't surprise me at all :/ Please stop anti-US sentiments. Every armed forces faced some sorts of sexual abuses, not just the US. Dont turn this thread into another anti-US propaganda. If I am mod, I would ban you permanently. | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On April 18 2012 18:22 Prime`Rib wrote: Please stop anti-US sentiments. Every armed forces faced some sorts of sexual abuses, not just the US. Dont turn this thread into another anti-US propaganda. If I am mod, I would ban you permanently. Sure there are sexual abuses everywhere, but only in the US Army will you superior tear out your paperwork in front of you. Nothin new here, the US army is the scum of the earth. This is not nearly as bad as what they do everyday, ie kill / torture innocents civilians. User was warned for this post | ||
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Prime`Rib
United States613 Posts
On April 18 2012 18:37 Nizaris wrote: Sure there are sexual abuses everywhere, but only in the US Army will you superior tear out your paperwork in front of you. Nothin new here, the US army is the scum of the earth. This is not nearly as bad as what they do everyday, ie kill / torture innocents civilians. Go read what the Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodian, North Korean Army did to their people before calling US Army is scum of the Earth. These anti US sentiments are getting annoying. It is like you read the newspaper and assumed everything is fact. | ||
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n3ac3y
United States108 Posts
On April 18 2012 18:37 Nizaris wrote: Sure there are sexual abuses everywhere, but only in the US Army will you superior tear out your paperwork in front of you. Nothin new here, the US army is the scum of the earth. This is not nearly as bad as what they do everyday, ie kill / torture innocents civilians. Yes, we in the Army spend our free time eating the hearts of afghan babies, kicking kittens and raping women at gunpoint. | ||
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n3ac3y
United States108 Posts
For your spatial awareness. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On April 17 2012 23:13 Ghostcom wrote: I wouldn't call 3% very low... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics The true problem when it comes to rape is that you can't tell the difference between a rape and consensual sex by a gynacological examination, so you'll have to get other evidence that there was actually a rape happening which is VERY hard as most things can be explained by the perpetrator claiming consensual sex. You can tell it very easily. -_- | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On April 18 2012 19:58 Prime`Rib wrote: Go read what the Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodian, North Korean Army did to their people before calling US Army is scum of the Earth. These anti US sentiments are getting annoying. It is like you read the newspaper and assumed everything is fact. They still make newspapers these days? That's the thing, bolded the important part, the fact that you do it to other countries civilian population is even worse. I would have no problem if you did that shit at home. | ||
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fYlddnaHturtDyaWdmAi
Israel157 Posts
On April 18 2012 20:49 Nizaris wrote: They still make newspapers these days? That's the thing, bolded the important part, the fact that you do it to other countries civilian population is even worse. I would have no problem if you did that shit at home. I don't think there is much difference. You sexually abuse women and you deserve to be punished. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-afghan-photos-20120418,0,5032601.story Me neither. It's sad to read comments that defend the treatment of rape victims by trotting out how plenty of atrocities have been committed by other armies, or that it pales in comparison statistically to sexual assault in the general population, etc. Americans used to pride themselves on having a higher moral standards. | ||
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Miss_Cleo
United States406 Posts
On April 18 2012 18:37 Nizaris wrote: Sure there are sexual abuses everywhere, but only in the US Army will you superior tear out your paperwork in front of you. Nothin new here, the US army is the scum of the earth. This is not nearly as bad as what they do everyday, ie kill / torture innocents civilians. User was warned for this post Hate to break it to you buddy, but go read about what King Leopold II did in Congo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congo_Free_State http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MutilatedChildrenFromCongo.jpg | ||
Myles
United States5162 Posts
Care to explain how instead of making a blanket statement? Because, from my non-medical understanding, you can easily tell if there has been intercourse, but not if said intercourse was forced or not. | ||
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