EPTIf you want to give it a listen you can find it, free, here: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/220/testosterone
I hope that helps someone.
Transgender Miss Universe Canada Disqualified - Page 22
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
If you want to give it a listen you can find it, free, here: http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/220/testosterone I hope that helps someone. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
MISS UNIVERSE CHANGES RULES TO INCLUDE TRANSGENDER CONTESTANTS Previously, Miss Universe Canada confirmed they would allow Jenna to compete, but now if she wins it she'll be able to participate in the international competition. The Miss Universe pageant is changing its rules and will allow transgender women to take part in all of its competitions starting in 2013, the organization and gay rights group GLAAD said on Tuesday. Tuesday's decision follows a media outcry over the disqualification of Canadian contestant Jenna Talackova from the upcoming Miss Universe Canada contest because she was not a "naturally born female." Talackova 23, who underwent gender reassignment surgery when she was 19, was reinstated to the Canadian competition last week by businessman Donald Trump, who owns the Miss Universe organization. Talackova has a Canadian passport, driver's license and other documents that identify her as a woman Following consultations with the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD), Miss Universe "discussed a policy change that includes transgender women in time for the start of this fall's 2013 pageant season; a time when most of the competitions around the world begin to take place," the two groups said in a joint statement. The change brings Miss Universe into line with other groups that have taken a stand against discrimination of transgender women, including the Olympics, the Girl Scouts of America and TV show "America's Next Top Model," GLAAD said. "We have a long history of supporting equality for all women and this was something we took very seriously," said Paula Shugart, president of the Miss Universe Organization. The exact language, which will abolish the long-standing rule that contestants must be "naturally born females," is still being worked out, officials said. National beauty pageants are currently being held around the world to choose contestants to compete in the 2012 Miss Universe contest, to be held later this year. Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Miss Universe include transgender women after Jenna Talackova controversy/6435301/story.html#ixzz1rfhshlG6 | ||
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Tiegrr
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Tranniekiller
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We teach people that distorted self body image is bad. We recognize that people can believe that their body is too fat or too thin, incorrectly, and that they are a teapot or jesus or their arm is missing when it really isn't, or that they have different "personalities" inside themselves, when really it's just the single person inside. These distortions in self body image, and a healthy acceptance of the self, are considered sad states and people try to help them. People with these body distortions also tend to feel like they can't fit, because they will never live up to their own image, so they cry, cut themselves, and sometimes even commit suicide over it. Transgenders do the same thing, except when they get a sex change, it's completely objectionable and rude to say that they mutilated themselves to look the way they believe they should be, when people throw up and starve themselves to look "pretty", and these are considered diseases. The issue is one of body image not living up to the self perceived ideal. It's sad and painful. But noone can come out and say that transgenders are mentally ill because it's unpopular and receives a lot of hate, due to the gay rights movement, even though it factually is an issue of someone wanting to cut their own body up to look like how they should be. The proof of this is how it's the gay rights movements that had an outcry over him being DQ'd before. When cutters do that, they go to a mental hospital. When transgenders do it, they get applauded for bravery of being who they are "inside". It's sad that so many people are willing to falsely approve of the behavior. buddhism teaches us that lying is never the answer. User was banned for this post. | ||
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Professor Awesome
Germany26 Posts
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Tranniekiller
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On April 16 2012 03:47 Professor Awesome wrote: Guys don't waste your time reading the above post like I did, just look at his name and ignore him. what's wrong with it? I like cars and driving them hard. | ||
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redviper
Pakistan2333 Posts
On April 16 2012 03:42 Tranniekiller wrote: Here's the problem though. We teach people that distorted self body image is bad. We recognize that people can believe that their body is too fat or too thin, incorrectly, and that they are a teapot or jesus or their arm is missing when it really isn't, or that they have different "personalities" inside themselves, when really it's just the single person inside. These distortions in self body image, and a healthy acceptance of the self, are considered sad states and people try to help them. People with these body distortions also tend to feel like they can't fit, because they will never live up to their own image, so they cry, cut themselves, and sometimes even commit suicide over it. Transgenders do the same thing, except when they get a sex change, it's completely objectionable and rude to say that they mutilated themselves to look the way they believe they should be, when people throw up and starve themselves to look "pretty", and these are considered diseases. The issue is one of body image not living up to the self perceived ideal. It's sad and painful. But noone can come out and say that transgenders are mentally ill because it's unpopular and receives a lot of hate, due to the gay rights movement, even though it factually is an issue of someone wanting to cut their own body up to look like how they should be. The proof of this is how it's the gay rights movements that had an outcry over him being DQ'd before. When cutters do that, they go to a mental hospital. When transgenders do it, they get applauded for bravery of being who they are "inside". It's sad that so many people are willing to falsely approve of the behavior. buddhism teaches us that lying is never the answer. You realize that what you are saying is that we should be more accepting of people with distorted body image issues, not that we should be less accepting of transgendered people? No one should come out and say that people who think they are too fat or too thin or feel unloved or do not fit in within the construct of the society are mentally ill. Do they need help? Yes. But they should not be shunned because they don't fit our preconceived notions of right and wrong. Like with SRS there is a process to go through for body modification. People who judge those with plastic surgeries are in reality no less bigoted compared to people who judge those with reassignment surgeries. Also you are mistaken that when transgenders do it they are lauded. Many many many transgendered people live their entire life in misery because they are not given the help and support to change biological sex to match gender. In some countries transgendered people are killed. Not so long ago they were outcasts even in the US, not to mention that every few years we hear of some other horror murder story where a "straight" man was so offended by a trans that he goes ahead and kills her, something that you seem to admire as evidenced by your really gross username. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19343 Posts
good news as long no other physical appearance was changed aside from the reproductive organ | ||
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