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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24393 Posts
On July 10 2013 09:06 dAPhREAk wrote: please excuse me while i delete all the text messages, pictures and hidden information from my cell phone. dont want that shit to see the light of day when some cracker shoots me. o.O Yeah not just a courtroom but an international audience... Going to join the prosecutor in the early 1900's and stick to Casa Blanca and word of mouth... | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
On July 10 2013 08:56 FatChicksUnited wrote: I found the video: That's not the animation in question, dude... | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
although amusing, the prosecutor has the better argument. this is just character evidence to besmirch trayvon. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
But I could've sworn that this is Iron Man. | ||
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FatChicksUnited
Canada214 Posts
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
On July 10 2013 09:12 dAPhREAk wrote: lol, trayvon's text messages are bragging about his "slap fight" with people. although amusing, the prosecutor has the better argument. this is just character evidence to besmirch trayvon. I would argue that Trayvon's character is in question here, but honestly, the state hasn't provided any scenario whatsoever so I don't know... | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 10 2013 09:13 sc2superfan101 wrote: I would argue that Trayvon's character is in question here, but honestly, the state hasn't provided any scenario whatsoever so I don't know... character evidence is inadmissible by law absent an exception. i have gone over this before. | ||
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FatChicksUnited
Canada214 Posts
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
On July 10 2013 09:15 dAPhREAk wrote: character evidence is inadmissible by law absent an exception. i have gone over this before. such an exception should most certainly be made in this case. especially in light of the State's position (whatever that may be). | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 10 2013 09:16 sc2superfan101 wrote: such an exception should most certainly be made in this case. especially in light of the State's position (whatever that may be). they are statutory exceptions, not just whatever the court feels like. 90.404 Character evidence; when admissible.— (1) CHARACTER EVIDENCE GENERALLY.—Evidence of a person’s character or a trait of character is inadmissible to prove action in conformity with it on a particular occasion, except: (a) Character of accused.—Evidence of a pertinent trait of character offered by an accused, or by the prosecution to rebut the trait. (b) Character of victim.— 1. Except as provided in s. 794.022, evidence of a pertinent trait of character of the victim of the crime offered by an accused, or by the prosecution to rebut the trait; or 2. Evidence of a character trait of peacefulness of the victim offered by the prosecution in a homicide case to rebut evidence that the victim was the aggressor. (c) Character of witness.—Evidence of the character of a witness, as provided in ss. 90.608-90.610. (2) OTHER CRIMES, WRONGS, OR ACTS.— (a) Similar fact evidence of other crimes, wrongs, or acts is admissible when relevant to prove a material fact in issue, including, but not limited to, proof of motive, opportunity, intent, preparation, plan, knowledge, identity, or absence of mistake or accident, but it is inadmissible when the evidence is relevant solely to prove bad character or propensity. | ||
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
edit: Does it have to be characterized as character evidence as opposed to evidence as to Trayvon's being an experienced fighter, which lends itself to the theory of the confrontation, and away from the contention that he was a scared sissy running away from Zimmerman. This might actually be the prosecution's new theory of the case, given Guy's "slap fighting" line. | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 10 2013 09:22 Kaitlin wrote: Pretty sure in self-defense cases, the case they cited before said that damn near everything about the victim against whom self-defense is claimed is admissible. It was the case cited as to the marijuana evidence. that is not correct. | ||
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FatChicksUnited
Canada214 Posts
*edit*: http://lawofselfdefense.com/can-prosecution-keep-trayvons-history-of-violence-and-drug-use-from-jury-yes-and-no/ I believe Mr. Costner made mention of general reputation and specific acts in his arguments. | ||
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FatChicksUnited
Canada214 Posts
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
On July 10 2013 09:22 dAPhREAk wrote: they are statutory exceptions, not just whatever the court feels like. it is up to the judge to determine whether those exceptions outlined apply to this case. obviously the defense feels they do. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
Text messages are also pretty indicative of what happened that evening. If he was texting about slap-fighting with people, this could possibly demonstrate that he was trying to kill Zimmerman, which strengthens Zimmerman's self-defense case imo | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 10 2013 09:36 sc2superfan101 wrote: it is up to the judge to determine whether those exceptions outlined apply to this case. obviously the defense feels they do. they obviously dont feel the need to support it though. i have yet to hear a legitimate argument concerning prior acts. marijuana they at least had an argument; prior acts they are grasping for straws. | ||
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Dosey
United States4505 Posts
Keepsafe! I had to look on my phone to see what it was. | ||
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FatChicksUnited
Canada214 Posts
On July 10 2013 09:44 Dosey wrote: I'm hardly listening... is he talking about a hide my text app? Yeah, pretty much. Expert is testifying as to why he felt there were potentially hidden texts, and how he extracted them. | ||
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