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This is perfect I'm doing a paper on human resources of Blizzard Entertainment due on Tuesday :D
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On March 01 2012 06:55 darkest44 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 06:52 Terranist wrote:On March 01 2012 06:45 darkest44 wrote:
And I'm sure there will be a nice fat bonus/pay raise for the CEO/higher ups this year.... It sickens me that guys make 16million dollars a year to put in the same, or less hours, as your average employee and it's not like they are 100 times smarter than the average joe or something, usually they got their position through lucky timing or by being more ruthless than everyone else. No one is worth 100+ times more than another human being, in my opinion. Sigh, capitalism sucks sometimes. Heart goes out to all the people laid off in this shit economy while CEOs buy ferraris and their 5th vacation home etc.. disgusting world we live in where greed is a positive trait. people aren't just handed the title of CEO. they work their ass off to get it, and more often than not they were the ones there from the beginning when the company was nothing more than a startup. That changes nothing. Everyone "works their ass off". He did not work 300+ times harder or put in 300+ times more hours than the dude risking his very sanity doing customer support all day (people can be real big dicks) who might have been in the company just as long and still makes 40,000 max a year or something. But hey we're brainwashed in America to believe capitalism is all roses and rainbows and greed is a good thing. So go ahead and believe one human being is worth hundreds or sometimes thousands of times (in the case of billionaires) more than another human being, it's your right to believe whatever you want. I'm fine with someone getting paid tens of times more than another person because there needs to be some incentive to get higher degrees and work hard etc, but not hundreds or thousands times as much. It's sad how all the benefits and stock bonuses etc go all to the guys who already get paid the most, while the average employees usually get diddly squat and then gets fired in mass lay offs so the stock holders/ceos/execs can make higher profits. I am not looking for arguments, I was simply stating my opinion and sending my thoughts out to those who are losing their jobs in the all consuming interest of more profits for the stockholders/owners.
He's not paid for working 300x harder, he's paid to be 300x more accountable, I think
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On March 01 2012 08:52 Chunhyang wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 06:55 darkest44 wrote:On March 01 2012 06:52 Terranist wrote:On March 01 2012 06:45 darkest44 wrote:
And I'm sure there will be a nice fat bonus/pay raise for the CEO/higher ups this year.... It sickens me that guys make 16million dollars a year to put in the same, or less hours, as your average employee and it's not like they are 100 times smarter than the average joe or something, usually they got their position through lucky timing or by being more ruthless than everyone else. No one is worth 100+ times more than another human being, in my opinion. Sigh, capitalism sucks sometimes. Heart goes out to all the people laid off in this shit economy while CEOs buy ferraris and their 5th vacation home etc.. disgusting world we live in where greed is a positive trait. people aren't just handed the title of CEO. they work their ass off to get it, and more often than not they were the ones there from the beginning when the company was nothing more than a startup. That changes nothing. Everyone "works their ass off". He did not work 300+ times harder or put in 300+ times more hours than the dude risking his very sanity doing customer support all day (people can be real big dicks) who might have been in the company just as long and still makes 40,000 max a year or something. But hey we're brainwashed in America to believe capitalism is all roses and rainbows and greed is a good thing. So go ahead and believe one human being is worth hundreds or sometimes thousands of times (in the case of billionaires) more than another human being, it's your right to believe whatever you want. I'm fine with someone getting paid tens of times more than another person because there needs to be some incentive to get higher degrees and work hard etc, but not hundreds or thousands times as much. It's sad how all the benefits and stock bonuses etc go all to the guys who already get paid the most, while the average employees usually get diddly squat and then gets fired in mass lay offs so the stock holders/ceos/execs can make higher profits. I am not looking for arguments, I was simply stating my opinion and sending my thoughts out to those who are losing their jobs in the all consuming interest of more profits for the stockholders/owners. He's not paid for working 300x harder, he's paid to be 300x more accountable, I think
I dont think that they are more accountable, theres been a lot of CEOs who still drive their companies to the ground and have the golden parachute kick in. There is no risk at all for the people high up.
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How many game masters at the peak? About how many now?
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Im sure this is mostly customer service staff like World of Warcraft GM's, maybe forum moderators, etc.
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On March 01 2012 08:57 Crellos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 08:52 Chunhyang wrote:On March 01 2012 06:55 darkest44 wrote:On March 01 2012 06:52 Terranist wrote:On March 01 2012 06:45 darkest44 wrote:
And I'm sure there will be a nice fat bonus/pay raise for the CEO/higher ups this year.... It sickens me that guys make 16million dollars a year to put in the same, or less hours, as your average employee and it's not like they are 100 times smarter than the average joe or something, usually they got their position through lucky timing or by being more ruthless than everyone else. No one is worth 100+ times more than another human being, in my opinion. Sigh, capitalism sucks sometimes. Heart goes out to all the people laid off in this shit economy while CEOs buy ferraris and their 5th vacation home etc.. disgusting world we live in where greed is a positive trait. people aren't just handed the title of CEO. they work their ass off to get it, and more often than not they were the ones there from the beginning when the company was nothing more than a startup. That changes nothing. Everyone "works their ass off". He did not work 300+ times harder or put in 300+ times more hours than the dude risking his very sanity doing customer support all day (people can be real big dicks) who might have been in the company just as long and still makes 40,000 max a year or something. But hey we're brainwashed in America to believe capitalism is all roses and rainbows and greed is a good thing. So go ahead and believe one human being is worth hundreds or sometimes thousands of times (in the case of billionaires) more than another human being, it's your right to believe whatever you want. I'm fine with someone getting paid tens of times more than another person because there needs to be some incentive to get higher degrees and work hard etc, but not hundreds or thousands times as much. It's sad how all the benefits and stock bonuses etc go all to the guys who already get paid the most, while the average employees usually get diddly squat and then gets fired in mass lay offs so the stock holders/ceos/execs can make higher profits. I am not looking for arguments, I was simply stating my opinion and sending my thoughts out to those who are losing their jobs in the all consuming interest of more profits for the stockholders/owners. He's not paid for working 300x harder, he's paid to be 300x more accountable, I think I dont think that they are more accountable, theres been a lot of CEOs who still drive their companies to the ground and have the golden parachute kick in. There is no risk at all for the people high up.
Labeling everyone in a group by the actions of a few...hmm. Plenty of CEO's have lost everything.
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If I were to make a guess(maybe even stupid), I'd say this all has to do with the PT-BR Wow thing. They hired a new blue recently, and they probably hired a good amount of portuguese speaking GMs in order to support the income of brazilian players(who, by themselves, fully loaded five servers). With the hiring of extra portuguese speaking GMs, they got too many of them and had to dismiss a certain number in order to keep things balanced.
Or maybe I'm just dead wrong. This makes sense to me IMO.
Sad news for those who worked there, but unfortunately that's how things work 
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It's always sad to hear about so many people losing their jobs.
Good luck to them.
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Hmm, if an average server on wow has 15.000 people (just guessing), and they dropped 1,8 million subs last year or two, that's around 120 servers, uhm, let me do some more math here guyz!!
5-6 gm's who lose their job in each of those xD
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... Didn't blizzard do the same thing after diablo 1, diablo 2, and BW? I was never a fan of blizzard and I don't think I ever will be.
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On March 01 2012 08:27 D4V3Z02 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 08:21 turdburgler wrote:
good to know blizzard think 24-48 hour wait times on support tickets while they rake in millions is too much flab on the company ;/
really disapointing.
if it was mcdonalds or whatever laying off people i would obviously understand, they are in the business of making money and everyone knows it, but companies like blizzard try to convey themselves as being part of their own communities and someone who is almost a friend. if they dont prioritize support staff then it shows they arent actually interested in communities or friendships and are only in it for the money.
dont normally like to be part of the tin foil hat team but it really feels like since they partnered with activision their priorities have completely changed Because they just gave away their games for free before they partnered with activision? "For the Community!"
are you just trying to bait me into flaming you? im not saying that at all
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On March 01 2012 09:40 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 08:27 D4V3Z02 wrote:On March 01 2012 08:21 turdburgler wrote:
good to know blizzard think 24-48 hour wait times on support tickets while they rake in millions is too much flab on the company ;/
really disapointing.
if it was mcdonalds or whatever laying off people i would obviously understand, they are in the business of making money and everyone knows it, but companies like blizzard try to convey themselves as being part of their own communities and someone who is almost a friend. if they dont prioritize support staff then it shows they arent actually interested in communities or friendships and are only in it for the money.
dont normally like to be part of the tin foil hat team but it really feels like since they partnered with activision their priorities have completely changed Because they just gave away their games for free before they partnered with activision? "For the Community!" are you just trying to bait me into flaming you? im not saying that at all
Activision didn't change Blizzard, Blizzard wanted them as a partner because they know how to go in that direction.
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That's a shame people lost their jobs because blizz could certainly afford it. They were probably pressured by investors after losing so many wow subscriptions.
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They need to decrease the size of the massive money funnel that they're already getting. It can really be the only reason haha.
Wildly successful company, arguably the most successful company of all time, needs to cut costs? LOL thats a joke if I've ever heard one
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Man I hope those people manage to get jobs really quickly.
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On March 01 2012 09:50 Playguuu wrote:
That's a shame people lost their jobs because blizz could certainly afford it. They were probably pressured by investors after losing so many wow subscriptions.
Exactly. They'd rather fire these people and make 300 million than keep them on board and say make 270 million.
(these are just made up numbers but you get the point)
It's not a matter of profitable vs. not profitable, it's "ya if we keep them on board we make a ton of money, but if we fire them we make a ton plus more, so...."
It's just the cold reality of a publicly traded company, success is growing revenue and profit every quarter and every year.
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I keep picturing that famous scene in Office Space when thinking about Blizzard's company evaluation period before they decided who was to be axe'd. One by one the Gamemasters enter an office and are asked by an evaluation team "So what would you say you do here?"
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Someone in upper management wants a bonus. That's how these things usually work.
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On March 01 2012 03:52 mrafaeldie12 wrote:
I hate when people say "release" instead of fired, such alleviation is retarded. I imagine this decision has to do with Koticks 100% profit or hit the road strategy.
i dont understand why your angry, i thought being released and being fired are the same thing? o.0
its unfortunate for the people being laid off, but i would rather this than seeing the company going 'under' and laying off all their staff.
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