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ControlMonkey
Australia3109 Posts
Also, any company who doesn't periodically review head count is probably a poorly run company. If ouve ever worked in a medium-lare company soul know that person who nobody knows what they do. That person either leaves because they are bored or get sacked because they do nothing. A bad company keeps them on because they don't know how to run their company. Anyway, it looks like they are sacking support staff etc, not development staff. | ||
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Hyuzak
United States33 Posts
On March 01 2012 16:02 Rimstalker wrote: do YOU know any CEOs? I know one pretty well, he used to be CEO of a company with 1500 people, now he is my CEO in a smaller company. This guy is utterly clueless, if he'd drop dead, the impact on our company would be negligible, possibly even beneficial. Before that, I was working at Deloitte, the higher up people were completely removed from reality, some of them even malevolent, crushing employees who dared not cower before their might. Company before that, the owner was friendly, but borderline alcoholic and no idea what was going in on the company, the board consisted - among others - of his personal secretary who was a full alcoholic and constantly interfering in peoples' private lives and a sleazy guy who used to be a fridge salesman. /end of rant. If needed, I can start with the CEOs of other people I know I love stories like these. I don't know why, but I think they're funny. Please tell more. | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
 At-least they got a nice severance package probably. I don't know why but i wonder if Activision is calling the shots. | ||
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Zerothegreat
United States787 Posts
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source: http://www.gamespot.com/news/blizzard-laying-off-600-6360584 Diablo III studio cuts 60 developers as well as substantial support staff as part of global reduction of staff due to "changing needs" of company. There's sour news out of Irvine this morning, as Activision Blizzard subsidiary Blizzard Entertainment announced that it will reduce its global workforce by 600 employees. The company noted that 10 percent of its staff cuts--or about 60 people--were actively involved in game development. | ||
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Belial88
United States5217 Posts
On March 01 2012 16:22 papaz wrote: The world isn't centered around you. 600 peple out of roughly 4500 lost their jobs at one of the most successful game companies in the world. The game company which more or less is the reason teamliquid even exists and you are here posting. So don't be confused. It's news and some of us are interested in knowing how the company creating the games we love to play do. 600 people now have the largest gaming company as a part of their resume, and likely had a lot going on for them when they got accepted. Don't be a jerk, I could bring up a ton of sob stories much sadder than this. Some well-off people losing part time jobs is hardly the worst thing in the world. On the other hand, sure, it's sad. Is that blizzard's fault, or a politician's fault, or some law's fault? It could go on forever, but I get it. And yes, I'm aware Blizzard created SC2. I'm well aware of that. But there is a lot of shit going on behind the scenes at blizzard. So I'm asking, why was this announcement ever made public. What is the impact of this annoucement. Does it mean production will be slower? Because it sounds like it won't be. Who did they even fire? Wow game masters? Does that even count as a job int he first place? So yea. I'm kind of confused. I get it, it's news. But why is there a memo by Mike on every forum and on the front page of TL. Why is there a ton of blue posts on the matter? Isn't this an internal matter? Why do I get the impression, from the posts made by corporate, that some huge scandal occurred? Am I crazy here? Does it not feel like you could replace some of the words, like every time they said "let go" or "fired" with "killed a baby"? It's odd. Get it? It's odd. Or are you so dense that you just completely do not understand what I'm getting at? Are you just going to be so, so oblivious to what I'm saying? Because I don't think I'm saying something that complicated. It's a business. Sure, it sucks when people lose their jobs. But it happens every day, every where, we don't even know the circumstances of what's going on. Please don't force me to be on a 'side' here, I'm not here to make a point. I'm just asking, why the fuck, is this such a big deal, and what impact will this have. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 01 2012 15:54 BluePanther wrote: Look up the "Business Judgment Rule" and you'll realize why that's a terrible argument. And yes, I actually do know corporate law. Short of murder, dereliction of duty, or egregious self-dealing, the courts will uphold nearly any action by a board. If you read my 2nd post you would know that there are higher obligations than what the law merely prescribes. Just because someone is not legally required to do something does not mean that they should not. A CEO has a moral and ethical obligation to look out for the long term health and profits for his shareholders. On March 01 2012 16:00 Sub40APM wrote: ...i guess...of course unless they announce a dividend that returns the money that went to those 600 people they arent doing anything for their shareholders... Dividends, sure, or perhaps they anticipate lean times, are going to make a few significant capital investments, are simply restructuring and want to hire people with different skillsets, or a whole host of other reasons. Like I've been saying, the corporate leadership clearly felt this was a necessary change, and all indications)and rumors) are that this change has been coming for years, and many of the people laid off should be happy they had a job the last 3 years during one of the leanest hiring periods in American history. | ||
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Slipspace
United States381 Posts
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On March 01 2012 17:18 Hyuzak wrote: I love stories like these. I don't know why, but I think they're funny. Please tell more. Your experiences sound horrible, but I assure you I've had the benefit of working under a couple of great CEOs. They DO exist. Good luck, hope you discover a CEO or executive you actually like. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On March 01 2012 17:50 Zerothegreat wrote: You might want to include this in the OP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source: http://www.gamespot.com/news/blizzard-laying-off-600-6360584 Diablo III studio cuts 60 developers as well as substantial support staff as part of global reduction of staff due to "changing needs" of company. There's sour news out of Irvine this morning, as Activision Blizzard subsidiary Blizzard Entertainment announced that it will reduce its global workforce by 600 employees. The company noted that 10 percent of its staff cuts--or about 60 people--were actively involved in game development. I hate to be callous, but I have friends in the gaming industry at working on triple-A games. And they'll all admit there is a lot of dead weight. Cutting 60 developers out of a company as large as Blizzard is not that big a deal. | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
On March 01 2012 18:23 Defacer wrote: Your experiences sound horrible, but I assure you I've had the benefit of working under a couple of great CEOs. They DO exist. Good luck, hope you discover a CEO or executive you actually like. Working for at least 3 different companies might also mean that he and not the CEO's were the problem ;p Its a shame that people have to lose their jobs but thats business, sometimes you have to make hard decisions to keep your company healthy, I've never met anyone who actually enjoyed letting people go but they all know its sometimes required. | ||
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B4_WheeL
Lithuania47 Posts
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Rimstalker
Germany734 Posts
On March 01 2012 17:18 Hyuzak wrote: I love stories like these. I don't know why, but I think they're funny. Please tell more. Here you go: When I first met him, it took about 30 seconds of conversation to notice that he clearly did not even have the faintest idea about either the tech or the logic behind what we are doing - that was with < 20 employees, mind you, and our technology is what is setting us apart from the rest of the field. He was the driving force behind setting up shop in Europe and Asia, which is not anywhere near paying off, and generating loads of problems because of the shitty interconnectivity between data centers. And of course, thanks to him, I will soon have a 'performance review' for last year, where I am measured against non-existing goals, or alternatively a non-existing job description. With that bullshit initiative alone, he has managed the alienate the whole dev team. edit: I am actually very happy at my current job, it's just that our CEO is utterly worthless. Thankfully, he is sitting several thousand miles away | ||
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Monsty
Canada230 Posts
By the end of the year, they will be over capacity when Diablo 3 is finally out the doors (especially when most of the development is complete) and HotS coming closer to more major announcements. For the first time, blizzard has a high probability of releasing 3 major titles in one year, which is overkill for such a company when you really think about it. | ||
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Hyuzak
United States33 Posts
On March 01 2012 18:29 Rimstalker wrote: Here you go: When I first met him, it took about 30 seconds of conversation to notice that he clearly did not even have the faintest idea about either the tech or the logic behind what we are doing - that was with < 20 employees, mind you, and our technology is what is setting us apart from the rest of the field. He was the driving force behind setting up shop in Europe and Asia, which is not anywhere near paying off, and generating loads of problems because of the shitty interconnectivity between data centers. And of course, thanks to him, I will soon have a 'performance review' for last year, where I am measured against non-existing goals, or alternatively a non-existing job description. With that bullshit initiative alone, he has managed the alienate the whole dev team. edit: I am actually very happy at my current job, it's just that our CEO is utterly worthless. Thankfully, he is sitting several thousand miles away How did he get the job in the first place when he doesn't even know about the technology he's working with? Did he start the company himself? If he did, why would he start a business in a field he doesn't know anything about? I mean, if anything, hire someone competent in the field to be a business partner with you, while you do something you're actually capable of, like being the one to provide the money to start up the company or whatever. Anyways, thanks for the stories! | ||
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RaiderRob
Netherlands377 Posts
On March 01 2012 18:26 Defacer wrote: I hate to be callous, but I have friends in the gaming industry at working on triple-A games. And they'll all admit there is a lot of dead weight. Cutting 60 developers out of a company as large as Blizzard is not that big a deal. That's because Canada distorts the market by their government throwing hundreds of millions at gamecompanies for hiring dead weight.... | ||
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PrideNeverDie
United States319 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On March 01 2012 21:52 PrideNeverDie wrote: Blizzard became a corporation and tried to milk its customers for more money while it produced an inferior product. This led to lower income and the need to reduce employees. Blizzard realized that Diablo 3 is not fixable and therefore fired the developers on it while hoping the fans shell out $60 based on branding. Why do people still waste their time with trolling of such magnitude? | ||
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PrideNeverDie
United States319 Posts
On March 01 2012 22:02 [F_]aths wrote: Why do people still waste their time with trolling of such magnitude? sc2 bnet ... have u played d3? its unfixable | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On March 01 2012 17:50 Zerothegreat wrote: You might want to include this in the OP ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source: http://www.gamespot.com/news/blizzard-laying-off-600-6360584 Diablo III studio cuts 60 developers as well as substantial support staff as part of global reduction of staff due to "changing needs" of company. There's sour news out of Irvine this morning, as Activision Blizzard subsidiary Blizzard Entertainment announced that it will reduce its global workforce by 600 employees. The company noted that 10 percent of its staff cuts--or about 60 people--were actively involved in game development. If that's not a sign that Diablo III's release is imminent, I don't know what is. | ||
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