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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45922 Posts
"27 school shootings have taken place so far this year" ..........Or what about thousands of times? "The U.S. ended 2021 with 693 mass shootings, per the Gun Violence Archive. The year before saw 611. And 2019 had 417." https://www.npr.org/2022/05/24/1101050970/2022-school-shootings-so-far?fbclid=IwAR0deoKhJJ66VaZ1OD6pUOKpApwmaYeGICR9pGehKPWpwm_ZR6kTxGMaPhE | ||
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Laurens
Belgium4557 Posts
On May 25 2022 21:12 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Fool me once, shame on you. But 27 times, in 2022 alone? "27 school shootings have taken place so far this year" ..........Or what about thousands of times? "The U.S. ended 2021 with 693 mass shootings, per the Gun Violence Archive. The year before saw 611. And 2019 had 417." https://www.npr.org/2022/05/24/1101050970/2022-school-shootings-so-far?fbclid=IwAR0deoKhJJ66VaZ1OD6pUOKpApwmaYeGICR9pGehKPWpwm_ZR6kTxGMaPhE A problem won't magically disappear if 0 measures are taken to combat it. | ||
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-StrifeX-
United States529 Posts
On May 25 2022 20:40 Excludos wrote: School shooting in the US is barely news any more. People have been fighting the fight for so long, and literally nothing has changed. As long as republicans have a say in how the country is run, nothing is going to improve in any of the numerous issues they have over there Democrats actually have a lot of pull currently. They've had a chance to push for gun control for the past year and a half. So technically speaking democrats have the largest say in how the country is ran at this time. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8865 Posts
On May 25 2022 21:35 JimmiC wrote: Do not worry Ted cruz wants more guns for teachers and armed guards. MTG says its the librals and they need mpre Jesus. As sad as it is Im almost certain nothing will change. Except maybe more guns and shooting. yeah ted cruz's comments were showing his delusion pretty bad. also i found it funny that one of the first things he said was (paraphrased) "shootings like these are politicised to take away our 2nd amendment rights", and then he goes on to use the shooting to make his own political statement about how gun violence should be combatted with better law enforcement. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
Emphasis on Evil. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11835 Posts
On May 25 2022 21:35 JimmiC wrote: Do not worry Ted cruz wants more guns for teachers and armed guards. MTG says its the librals and they need mpre Jesus. As sad as it is Im almost certain nothing will change. Except maybe more guns and shooting. As a comparison, i am a teacher in Germany. No one has any guns in school. We don't have metal detectors at the entrance, and we don't have school cops. It is a much more relaxing and friendly atmosphere. And no one gets shots. It has been like that in every school i have been in so far. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45922 Posts
On May 25 2022 22:12 Simberto wrote: As a comparison, i am a teacher in Germany. No one has any guns in school. We don't have metal detectors at the entrance, and we don't have school cops. It is a much more relaxing and friendly atmosphere. And no one gets shots. It has been like that in every school i have been in so far. Given yesterday's school shooting, they've increased the number of police officers and security guards at my school today. That'll probably last a day or so. We don't have metal detectors, but some schools in nearby areas do. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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bluzi
4703 Posts
Its like the Bible , something that was written so long ago is being held as holy for the rest of days , if science had this way of thinking we wont be making any progress. Do you think a "gun change" campaign is doomed to fail ? or some republicans will move over just to get it under control ? I cant imagine half of the US population are pro guns in the state they are now. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11835 Posts
On May 25 2022 22:52 JimmiC wrote: Sadly you do not need 50% you need more than 50% of the states to have 50% of their population agree. And logic for the most part has disappeared and been replaced with, we are the opposite of those guys. You don't even need that. You need 50% of legislators in both houses of congress to agree. What the population thinks is irrelevant, as long as it doesn't make them vote differently, but even then they may not have a choice to vote for someone who wants to change stuff. | ||
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12461 Posts
On May 25 2022 22:21 Zambrah wrote: Id like to mention that the shooting actually HAD officers intercept the shooter but he got in and massacred anyways It reads like police engaged the shooter before he entered the school, then once he was inside they waited for the tac team to arrive? Is that fair to say? You know where I stand on the rest of this, Zambrah is doing a good job. Also worth mentioning that Buffalo didn't make the thread. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45922 Posts
On May 25 2022 23:59 JimmiC wrote: One place the NRA will not allow guns, their own conference, that is just amazing hypocrisy. What in the fuck are they scared of? All the good guys with guns can easily take out any bad guy with gunz and everyone there should be a good guy anyway? https://www.businessinsider.com/nra-conference-wont-allow-attendees-to-bring-their-guns-2022-5 All NRA members should be *required* to bring several loaded guns to that conference. I mean, what are they afraid of? | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8257 Posts
On May 25 2022 21:33 -StrifeX- wrote: Democrats actually have a lot of pull currently. They've had a chance to push for gun control for the past year and a half. So technically speaking democrats have the largest say in how the country is ran at this time. On the surface, yes, but in reality, no. 2 of the democrats currently sitting in the senate are practically republicans in disguise. They repeatedly refuse to vote for a lot of popular democratic legislations. On top of which, even if they have a majority, republicans can just infinitely stall it into oblivion. There's no real way to make drastic changes on a national scale without a supermajority | ||
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