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Saryph
United States1955 Posts
After doing a complete check on the two brits they probably could have been allowed in, but at the same time if they had said it while applying for their visas I would have denied them to them. For the people complaining about free speech, no one said they couldn't say what they said, but at the same time you have to realize that choices have consequences, at all times in your life, whether it is at the work place, in your home, or even if it is something said on twitter. | ||
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Trotim
Germany95 Posts
Naturally death is a thing but worrying about any of it is pointless. There are like what, 20000 homicides a year, and 100000 people or so die because of alcohol? A lot of people die because of doctors/surgery/medicine screwing up, others have food allergies or heart attacks because of stress. How many people actually died from "terrorist attacks"? Fewer than 100 a year? | ||
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1205 Posts
Now imagine, you've left the country, and are returning, you are then arrested, questioned, have your bags searched for a soul sucking machine, then not allowed to enter the country because: On February 01 2012 17:50 Probe1 wrote: No but I usually tell people to when they're dragging things out and died 9 minutes ago when their all in failed. You can't just beat people. You have to crush their soul. Holy shit you plan on not just beating someone up but crushing their entire soul. On February 01 2012 02:54 Probe1 wrote: This is the first I've heard about this. What in the holy fuck got into those people. "slaughter anyone against Islam'' lol. There's an easy solution to this problem. Flog more men. And are apparently an islamic fundamentalist in the country to flog lots of men. You need to totally be held accountable for what you say online! Thats how ridiculously, and literally those tweets were being seen... | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
They will use everything against you. | ||
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The KY
United Kingdom6252 Posts
On January 31 2012 19:33 SolHeiM wrote: But they can't do that though. They can't say "oh, they're probably not terrorists. Terrorists wouldn't be that stupid..." and then ten hours later a plane gets blown up or crashes into the Statue of Liberty. What are they going to say to the American people? "Oh, but they announced it on twitter. We didn't think terrorists would be that stupid, so we didn't bother. Very sorry." You're right, we should arrest anyone and everyone that MIGHT me a terrorist. Anyone who has given the minutest inkling that they might have a deep seated hatred of the US. Better safe than sorry, right? Seriously though I can't believe you're defending this. They said they were going to dig up Marilyn Monroe, a fucking Family Guy quote, on twitter and the guys searched their bags for spades and shovels. The offending tweet; 'Free this week, for quick gossip/prep before I go and destroy America?' I'm sorry but come ON. Any country that puts people in fucking holding cells on suspicion of terrorism for that is not one I even want to visit. If you support this, where the fuck do you draw the line at preventing terrorism? Hack the phones of everyone who buys a plane ticket to America a week beforehand? I mean then you'd be much more likely to catch potential terrorists. And then when you do, you can say 'hey! Imagine if we DIDN'T hack all these people's phones? What would have happened then.' | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
On February 01 2012 22:26 Velr wrote: Wow, you are in fact paranoid and on top really don't see the diffrence between shouting "BOOOMB" at an airport and twittering something stupid among your friends. staggering... perfectly right, im kind of shoked myself | ||
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Xevious
United States2086 Posts
On February 01 2012 22:54 StarStruck wrote: A good reason why you shouldn't be using Twitter. They will use everything against you. It could've just as easily been any other social networking site. | ||
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Cheerio
Ukraine3178 Posts
But they can't do that though. They can't say "oh, they're probably not terrorists. Terrorists wouldn't be that stupid..." and then ten hours later a plane gets blown up or crashes into the Statue of Liberty. What are they going to say to the American people? "Oh, but they announced it on twitter. We didn't think terrorists would be that stupid, so we didn't bother. Very sorry." Well guess what your security already gave them a visa so there was nothing stopping them from actually hijaking a plane and bombing the Statue of Liberty. I guess I know what you say know: better late than never. Or maybe this: they were given visa because they said they'd dig up MM and that rules out the Statue of Liberty bombing. | ||
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1205 Posts
On February 01 2012 20:13 urashimakt wrote: Makes me wonder what would happen if someone got #DestroyAmerica trending. Would some poor soul reading these "suspicious" tweets have to sift through them all? Also, I hope the warm welcome didn't turn the British couple off the U.S. for good or harm them in any severe way. lol someone (who doesn't plan on going to the US in the near future), should totally start that up. | ||
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Abort Retry Fail
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IAMPRO
Afghanistan118 Posts
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aevealon
Singapore80 Posts
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Olsson
Sweden931 Posts
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purecarnagge
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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
I live in a very safe area where the worst crime is white collared crimes. Theres no real gangs unless you go looking for them. Security is important but yes we (America) could be a little to paranoid, but i mean compare my life to an Africa in Uganda i don't have to worry about food i don't have to worry about soldiers coming into my house and shooting/capturing me. Thats what happens when security deteriorates/ doesn't exist i couldn't imagine living a life like that. you might say i'm on the total opposite side of the spectrum and my argument is invalid. But i think security is very important if a few people have to be burdened for a "trivial act" so be it, i think people need to be mroe accountable for their actions. Yes some cases may seem completely ridiculous (Read the 2 young brothers in the airport playing guns). But that is the price which must be paid, is it to high of a price? Everybody has their own opinions or idea's but the fact is YOU wont change anything, I wont change anything you can criticize America and our bravado speeches about freedom and war on terror. Except no one is ever right and ever wrong, this is just an endless debate with everyone flinging fact based opinions. But then again it feels like every piece of controversial news ends up becoming like this anyway i don't know why i even bother. | ||
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greyconnect
39 Posts
Seriously, how do you expect US security to act? Someone publicly states that they're going to destroy America, then they head to the airport and attempt to enter the country. That's all that needs saying here imo. You simply can't take a risk and assume that was just a joke, especially when it is so simple to stop them and have them questioned and searched. | ||
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Zerksys
United States569 Posts
On February 01 2012 12:10 DannyJ wrote: You probably wouldn't want to go test that assertion. I'm native born Chinese so I know what I'm talking about. The only thing you can't say in China are bad things about the government. Also you can't preach religion in a public setting (which may be a good thing if you look at organizations like the Westburrow Baptist Church). Other than that everything else is pretty much fair game. | ||
Myles
United States5162 Posts
On February 02 2012 00:36 greyconnect wrote: I'm genuinely amazed at some of the reactions in this thread. Seriously, how do you expect US security to act? Someone publicly states that they're going to destroy America, then they head to the airport and attempt to enter the country. That's all that needs saying here imo. You simply can't take a risk and assume that was just a joke, especially when it is so simple to stop them and have them questioned and searched. I expect them to be able to use logic and judgement during their search/questioning and to be able to determine that these people are not threats. That's called investigating. That they were so worried about spades and can't understand context is quite alarming to me. It certainly doesn't instil confidence that they will be able to properly identify a non-obvious threat when one comes through the airport. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10855 Posts
Did you just pull the old trick of comparing the USA to a third world country, so it looks good, instead of another first world country, because that would make the USA look stupid, to justify moronic over the top security measures (also often done on other "controversial" debates like health care and crime/murder rates)? lol | ||
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Prime`Rib
United States613 Posts
1. You are not US citizen. The freedom of speech is not entitled to you. To United States, you are just a guest to our country. 2. Even if US excercises its 1st Amendment on forgeiners; you have to realize that there are things that gonna get you into alot of troubles for saying it. 3. Stop crying about British Slang. This is American. If you are visiting our country, stop crying about our government does not understand your slang. You are a guest here. If you are dumb enough to give DHS a reason to suspect you a terrorist, you deserve to be sent back home. | ||
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