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On April 09 2013 05:25 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:05 Artrey wrote:On April 09 2013 03:48 Rassy wrote:
Hey, also had a question on the subject of colours.
I was told (in the shop) that black shoes are the most universal and go with about every colour of suit.
Brown shoes can be ok also they said,specially below a navy coloured suit, they are a bit more sporty and less informal but brown shoes below a light grey suit was definatly not done (they should be black according to the sales guy)
However after looking around a bit i noticed tons of people having brown shoes below grey or dark suits wich made me doubt again, my favorit pair of shoes is brown and now i like to know if i can safely wear them below a grey suit or if i realy should wear black shoes below that. I think it depends pretty much on the brown as well. Basically brown goes with everything except for a black suit/dinner jacket, just like the chart a few pages ago suggested. For a dark anthracite / charcoal grey, I think a bright brown like cognac or walnut fits a little better than chocolate, but it really depends on the tone and also on the design. Black shoes are more important for conservative business dresses, as brown might lead to negative comments in very conservative areas. Still, the latest styleforum challenge for CBD was won by this: ![[image loading]](http://cdn.styleforum.net/7/7a/900x900px-LL-7a02ba65_A10S22813.jpeg) And I think it looks fantastic. I like the suit, but that tie is a little bit boring for my tastes. As for the whole blue suit/brown shoes thing, I personally like the look and wear it fairly often (usually with my cowboy boots). However, I do get a fair amount of snide remarks from colleagues.
Also not to found of this tie (it looks like a realy cheap tie like the ones my father had like 30 years ago lol) though the shoes and suit i like (the shoes are pretty much like the brown shoes i have)
After reading the previous i guess its best to stay with black shoes after all.
Brown is ok but black is just slightly better and safer it seems.
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On April 09 2013 05:24 Juliette wrote:prolly meant for tucking in i dont like the shirt under the shirt, or that large jacket. gives you the effect of very big here's me today + Show Spoiler +![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/7eGFfQe.jpg) Everlane/APC/Nike was wearing a hat too kinda sobering to think about how simple it is but its really like $400. not that i haven't gotten my money's worth out of these jeans (and the shoes are good for runs, though i need to break them in still), but still. The XS shirt stretched out a bit but still kinda tight around the chest. def going with a different cut for jeans next time. feels kinda loose, maybe i didnt size down enough. im happy with my fadezz though. about 8months, no wash. think its time?
I'll start off by saying you look quite okay.
However... if you are a perfectionist, how about the following:
1. Regarding the shirt. I think if you are going to wear a tight shirt like that, you should WORK OUT and get some bigger muscles going. I think shirts like that are meant for ripped bodies.
2. Regarding the colors, I think the shirt could go with a lighter color of jeans. Beet color and dark blue do not match EXTREMELY well. They match okay but not optimal.
3. The little rigs in your jeans could have been sized down more but it really isn't a big deal.
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i work out, but i'm not hardcore and i'm not trying to get much bigger. not really my thing. I feel like my chest is just too big or something cause the shirt is pretty loose around my waist. but i really just sized wrong on my order :p. i disagree about a lighter color of jeans but i do agree it's very polarizing and cuts my body in half. for a short guy that's not really a good thing, but i didn't sleep too well and kinda just threw stuff on so i don't really have much of an excuse :p.
I also normally wear more ocbds and less sneakers but its getting hot and i cant really wear boots anymore .-.
appreciated though.
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On April 09 2013 03:37 Artrey wrote:
I've got nothing against nice streetwear. ;-) There are fantastic sneakers (<3 Lanvin or CP, even Converse/Keds), great raw indigo denim and chinos and lovely plain color t-shirts. It is just that black looks terrible. It might be "the right thing" within some subculture or for some very distinct look, but not as a general recommendation. I think this thread should really advocate and educate to step away from black whenever possible. There are still plenty of people who think that black button down shirts can look good (on white people!)...
Aesthetic perception needs to grow through exposure. Style is a skill that needs to be developed (and has culturally developed) and requires that you have a fair share of experience. I think after some time of caring about it, almost everyone would agree, that there are very few styles that involve black that look better than the same outfit in other colors. Sure, good looking people in good fits do not look bad, but they could look better! :-) Took me too long to realize myself, so I rather try to hint into the right direction, as this thread was drifting strongly into the other direction. Needs some antipole opinion (do you say that on english?) and more color!
odd that you criticize the usage of black in clothing and seem to rant against minimalistic expression, then go right back and talk about developing aesthetic perception through exposure. don't be so dogmatically ignorant.
On April 09 2013 04:05 Artrey wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 03:48 Rassy wrote:
Hey, also had a question on the subject of colours.
I was told (in the shop) that black shoes are the most universal and go with about every colour of suit.
Brown shoes can be ok also they said,specially below a navy coloured suit, they are a bit more sporty and less informal but brown shoes below a light grey suit was definatly not done (they should be black according to the sales guy)
However after looking around a bit i noticed tons of people having brown shoes below grey or dark suits wich made me doubt again, my favorit pair of shoes is brown and now i like to know if i can safely wear them below a grey suit or if i realy should wear black shoes below that. I think it depends pretty much on the brown as well. Basically brown goes with everything except for a black suit/dinner jacket, just like the chart a few pages ago suggested. For a dark anthracite / charcoal grey, I think a bright brown like cognac or walnut fits a little better than chocolate, but it really depends on the tone and also on the design. Black shoes are more important for conservative business dresses, as brown might lead to negative comments in very conservative areas. Still, the latest styleforum challenge for CBD was won by this: + Show Spoiler +And I think it looks fantastic.
ughh what is the point of a billion pictures in a look-so-fancy collage when you can't even see how the suit hangs on the frame? I have no idea how his pants fit and no idea how his overall silhouette looks like.
gripes aside, whoever put that fit together, at least regarding the tops, has a very poor conception of proportions. very bad choice for a tie and I would have gone with another type of collar. the sleeve looks really distressed as well, but I can't even tell with the pictures provided.
that shade of navy and what I can see from the overall cut suggests a very very conservative environment, but there's nothing wrong with that, as long as that's what you're dressing for.
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On April 09 2013 05:37 Rassy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 05:25 xDaunt wrote:On April 09 2013 04:05 Artrey wrote:On April 09 2013 03:48 Rassy wrote:
Hey, also had a question on the subject of colours.
I was told (in the shop) that black shoes are the most universal and go with about every colour of suit.
Brown shoes can be ok also they said,specially below a navy coloured suit, they are a bit more sporty and less informal but brown shoes below a light grey suit was definatly not done (they should be black according to the sales guy)
However after looking around a bit i noticed tons of people having brown shoes below grey or dark suits wich made me doubt again, my favorit pair of shoes is brown and now i like to know if i can safely wear them below a grey suit or if i realy should wear black shoes below that. I think it depends pretty much on the brown as well. Basically brown goes with everything except for a black suit/dinner jacket, just like the chart a few pages ago suggested. For a dark anthracite / charcoal grey, I think a bright brown like cognac or walnut fits a little better than chocolate, but it really depends on the tone and also on the design. Black shoes are more important for conservative business dresses, as brown might lead to negative comments in very conservative areas. Still, the latest styleforum challenge for CBD was won by this: And I think it looks fantastic. I like the suit, but that tie is a little bit boring for my tastes. As for the whole blue suit/brown shoes thing, I personally like the look and wear it fairly often (usually with my cowboy boots). However, I do get a fair amount of snide remarks from colleagues. Also not to found of this tie (it looks like a realy cheap tie like the ones my father had like 30 years ago lol) though the shoes and suit i like (the shoes are pretty much like the brown shoes i have) After reading the previous i guess its best to stay with black shoes after all. Brown is ok but black is just slightly better and safer it seems.
You can never go wrong with black shoes, even if they look a little funny under blue suits.
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@Juliette: I think with (white?) canvas sneakers, that would look pretty cool. I really don't like that running shoe style (hate new balance as well). But that is just me.  Would cuff the APC once more or get it shortened. Also, you need a cool belt like:
![[image loading]](http://www.dreiguerteltiere.de/images/categories/6.jpg)
(german shop http://www.dreiguerteltiere.de - you can configure the colors as you like)
My standard look (nothing special), usually with a mottled thin wool pullover over the shirt:
![[image loading]](https://dl.dropbox.com/u/55759071/looks001.jpg)
I am still ~10-12kg too fat though (95kg on 182cm, down from 120kg last year O_O). >.< Thus cheap denim, cheap shirt (bexley) until I hit the target. Correct size APC/Unbranded/Gustin Raws + Ben Sherman Chinos are already waiting in my wardrobe as well as future luxire orders will be. Doublemonks from Loake 1880, jacket Barbour Beaufort, belt Bexley.
Would like to suit up more, but that would be too much compared to my manager and his manager, except for certain projects and meetings.
On April 09 2013 06:25 andyrau wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 03:37 Artrey wrote:
I've got nothing against nice streetwear. ;-) There are fantastic sneakers (<3 Lanvin or CP, even Converse/Keds), great raw indigo denim and chinos and lovely plain color t-shirts. It is just that black looks terrible. It might be "the right thing" within some subculture or for some very distinct look, but not as a general recommendation. I think this thread should really advocate and educate to step away from black whenever possible. There are still plenty of people who think that black button down shirts can look good (on white people!)...
Aesthetic perception needs to grow through exposure. Style is a skill that needs to be developed (and has culturally developed) and requires that you have a fair share of experience. I think after some time of caring about it, almost everyone would agree, that there are very few styles that involve black that look better than the same outfit in other colors. Sure, good looking people in good fits do not look bad, but they could look better! :-) Took me too long to realize myself, so I rather try to hint into the right direction, as this thread was drifting strongly into the other direction. Needs some antipole opinion (do you say that on english?) and more color!
odd that you criticize the usage of black in clothing and seem to rant against minimalistic expression, then go right back and talk about developing aesthetic perception through exposure. don't be so dogmatically ignorant. Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 04:05 Artrey wrote:On April 09 2013 03:48 Rassy wrote:
Hey, also had a question on the subject of colours.
I was told (in the shop) that black shoes are the most universal and go with about every colour of suit.
Brown shoes can be ok also they said,specially below a navy coloured suit, they are a bit more sporty and less informal but brown shoes below a light grey suit was definatly not done (they should be black according to the sales guy)
However after looking around a bit i noticed tons of people having brown shoes below grey or dark suits wich made me doubt again, my favorit pair of shoes is brown and now i like to know if i can safely wear them below a grey suit or if i realy should wear black shoes below that. I think it depends pretty much on the brown as well. Basically brown goes with everything except for a black suit/dinner jacket, just like the chart a few pages ago suggested. For a dark anthracite / charcoal grey, I think a bright brown like cognac or walnut fits a little better than chocolate, but it really depends on the tone and also on the design. Black shoes are more important for conservative business dresses, as brown might lead to negative comments in very conservative areas. Still, the latest styleforum challenge for CBD was won by this: + Show Spoiler +And I think it looks fantastic. ughh what is the point of a billion pictures in a look-so-fancy collage when you can't even see how the suit hangs on the frame? I have no idea how his pants fit and no idea how his overall silhouette looks like. gripes aside, whoever put that fit together, at least regarding the tops, has a very poor conception of proportions. very bad choice for a tie and I would have gone with another type of collar. the sleeve looks really distressed as well, but I can't even tell with the pictures provided. that shade of navy and what I can see from the overall cut suggests a very very conservative environment, but there's nothing wrong with that, as long as that's what you're dressing for.
I was polarizing because it is fun. :-) black and minimalistic are not related in my understanding though. Minimalistic is great.
If you can pull off a better suit look, go ahead and post it. The thing that I liked the most are the shoes in combination with the suit. :-) I don't care about perfect proportions as that does not matter for adaptation. I agree that the tie is not perfect, but I think it works fine. After all, that is not a model for a professional shoot, but a normal SF forum user for a weekly challenge.
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On April 09 2013 06:35 Artrey wrote:@Juliette: I think with (white?) canvas sneakers, that would look pretty cool. I really don't like that running shoe style (hate new balance as well). But that is just me. Would cuff the APC once more or get it shortened. Also, you need a cool belt like: + Show Spoiler +(german shop http://www.dreiguerteltiere.de - you can configure the colors as you like) My standard look (nothing special), usually with a mottled thin wool pullover over the shirt: + Show Spoiler +I am still ~10-12kg too fat though (95kg on 182cm, down from 120kg last year O_O). >.< Thus cheap denim, cheap shirt (bexley) until I hit the target. Correct size APC/Unbranded/Gustin Raws + Ben Sherman Chinos are already waiting in my wardrobe as well as future luxire orders will be. Doublemonks from Loake 1880, jacket Barbour Beaufort, belt Bexley. Would like to suit up more, but that would be too much compared to my manager and his manager, except for certain projects and meetings.
I left my vans at home t_t. I can't really wear belts with tight shirts cause it pops too much but usually i would have a belt on. I don't really like new balance but FKs are so damn comfy, and if i'm sitting in a room for a few hours... I do actually have off white (almost yellowish) PF flyers that look like chucks but I have wide feet so i look like a clown. I cuff extra depending on the occassion but today i felt like stacks.
strangely enough i dress more like that than what i posted. no dubmonks for me cause college but some kind of boot for the most part. although i prefer sweaters to barbours - not that i wouldn't mind a barbour in my closet.
good luck losing the weight! im trying to trim a few inches off my waist, but i'm generally going the opposite direction as you (going from 65.7 kg, 145lb -> 68 kg, 150lb).
im kinda jealous of the camera. ive been looking into an SLR for a bit but im still very lost
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On April 09 2013 06:35 Artrey wrote:@Juliette: I think with (white?) canvas sneakers, that would look pretty cool. I really don't like that running shoe style (hate new balance as well). But that is just me. Would cuff the APC once more or get it shortened. Also, you need a cool belt like: (german shop http://www.dreiguerteltiere.de - you can configure the colors as you like) My standard look (nothing special), usually with a mottled thin wool pullover over the shirt: I am still ~10-12kg too fat though (95kg on 182cm, down from 120kg last year O_O). >.< Thus cheap denim, cheap shirt (bexley) until I hit the target. Correct size APC/Unbranded/Gustin Raws + Ben Sherman Chinos are already waiting in my wardrobe as well as future luxire orders will be. Doublemonks from Loake 1880, jacket Barbour Beaufort, belt Bexley. Would like to suit up more, but that would be too much compared to my manager and his manager, except for certain projects and meetings. Show nested quote +On April 09 2013 06:25 andyrau wrote:On April 09 2013 03:37 Artrey wrote:
I've got nothing against nice streetwear. ;-) There are fantastic sneakers (<3 Lanvin or CP, even Converse/Keds), great raw indigo denim and chinos and lovely plain color t-shirts. It is just that black looks terrible. It might be "the right thing" within some subculture or for some very distinct look, but not as a general recommendation. I think this thread should really advocate and educate to step away from black whenever possible. There are still plenty of people who think that black button down shirts can look good (on white people!)...
Aesthetic perception needs to grow through exposure. Style is a skill that needs to be developed (and has culturally developed) and requires that you have a fair share of experience. I think after some time of caring about it, almost everyone would agree, that there are very few styles that involve black that look better than the same outfit in other colors. Sure, good looking people in good fits do not look bad, but they could look better! :-) Took me too long to realize myself, so I rather try to hint into the right direction, as this thread was drifting strongly into the other direction. Needs some antipole opinion (do you say that on english?) and more color!
odd that you criticize the usage of black in clothing and seem to rant against minimalistic expression, then go right back and talk about developing aesthetic perception through exposure. don't be so dogmatically ignorant. On April 09 2013 04:05 Artrey wrote:On April 09 2013 03:48 Rassy wrote:
Hey, also had a question on the subject of colours.
I was told (in the shop) that black shoes are the most universal and go with about every colour of suit.
Brown shoes can be ok also they said,specially below a navy coloured suit, they are a bit more sporty and less informal but brown shoes below a light grey suit was definatly not done (they should be black according to the sales guy)
However after looking around a bit i noticed tons of people having brown shoes below grey or dark suits wich made me doubt again, my favorit pair of shoes is brown and now i like to know if i can safely wear them below a grey suit or if i realy should wear black shoes below that. I think it depends pretty much on the brown as well. Basically brown goes with everything except for a black suit/dinner jacket, just like the chart a few pages ago suggested. For a dark anthracite / charcoal grey, I think a bright brown like cognac or walnut fits a little better than chocolate, but it really depends on the tone and also on the design. Black shoes are more important for conservative business dresses, as brown might lead to negative comments in very conservative areas. Still, the latest styleforum challenge for CBD was won by this: + Show Spoiler +And I think it looks fantastic. ughh what is the point of a billion pictures in a look-so-fancy collage when you can't even see how the suit hangs on the frame? I have no idea how his pants fit and no idea how his overall silhouette looks like. gripes aside, whoever put that fit together, at least regarding the tops, has a very poor conception of proportions. very bad choice for a tie and I would have gone with another type of collar. the sleeve looks really distressed as well, but I can't even tell with the pictures provided. that shade of navy and what I can see from the overall cut suggests a very very conservative environment, but there's nothing wrong with that, as long as that's what you're dressing for. I was polarizing because it is fun. :-) black and minimalistic are not related in my understanding though. Minimalistic is great. If you can pull off a better suit look, go ahead and post it. The thing that I liked the most are the shoes in combination with the suit. :-) I don't care about perfect proportions as that does not matter for adaptation. I agree that the tie is not perfect, but I think it works fine. After all, that is not a model for a professional shoot, but a normal SF forum user for a weekly challenge.
Nice, someone somewhat close to my body type. could you name some stuff in your wardrobe, just starting mine and I need some guidance.
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I've looking at a few things:
https://ca.everlane.com/collections/mens-luxury-tees/products/mens-crew-merlot ( someone said the merlot would go well with lighter jeans so I though I'd give it a try)
http://www.jcrew.com/mens_feature/teesandshorts3/tees/PRDOVR~73431/73431.jsp , I usually like good in blue so might be a good pick
http://www.uniqlo.com/us/store/lifewear/men-marine-parkacheck/076308-18?ref=mens-clothing
I still don't know what colour parka I want to get : / !!!
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i have decided i need some new pants
preferably dark colors, black is ok. dark blue is okay.
brown is not okay
straight cut and skinny fit please. waist size is 30. mostly looking at chinos and jeans.
help
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I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but due to the new trend, my bootcut diesels (zathan and zatiny) just aren't cutting it anymore.
Has anyone gotten jeans taylored from a bootcut fit to say a straight leg fit? I keep wanting to go to the local taylor and having them make the changes, but my diesels have cost me wayy too much money for me have someone cut them up and end up not the way I want them.
Help!
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On April 09 2013 10:05 Pulselol wrote:
i have decided i need some new pants
preferably dark colors, black is ok. dark blue is okay.
brown is not okay
straight cut and skinny fit please. waist size is 30. mostly looking at chinos and jeans.
help
this i mean this is what andy was kinda talking about earlier, except in black.
strangely enough the slimmest pairs of pants i own are by gap. but they dont have a lot of dark options and i couldn't tell you if they're worth the $50. My navy pair certainly has been over the year or so I've had it.
not the best recs tho
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I'm due for a few new pairs of jeans as I've dropped a few inches. It's been a long time since I bought jeans and my GF bought my last few pairs. Can somoene link me to an article or explain how to chose a pair of jeans? I like denim more than black jeans as they fit more with my style (casual t or button up with a hoodie a lot, and I wear converse for anything not super formal), but I don't know how to chose what wash to go with, what cut, etc.
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you mean indigo. denim is the weave of cotton (so technically all jeans are denim)
i dont know if there's an article. its more
a) what fit do you like?
b) do you want raw and/or selvedge, or something with stretch cotton?
c) how much do you want to drop?
and go from there.
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I dont know where else to ask this, so I will ask here!
Facial hair. Mine grows kind of slow (or seems to), and being a redhead it can be quite light in color. The areas where it grows to be most visible is the mustache and on the chin (goatee). Should I bother growing it? Should I shave any of it?
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do you like how it looks?
yes -> keep
no -> shave
pictures help too
dammit now i want to buy black denim aaaaaaaaaaa
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On April 09 2013 06:35 Artrey wrote:My standard look (nothing special), usually with a mottled thin wool pullover over the shirt:
all ready to go birdwatching?
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On April 09 2013 15:01 Juliette wrote:
do you like how it looks?
yes -> keep
no -> shave
pictures help too
dammit now i want to buy black denim aaaaaaaaaaa
I am a bad judge on what looks decent though. On the one hand I want to look older because everybody says I look 18 (I am nearly 27) but on the other it feels strange not shaving.
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Best I can do picture-wise
I am thinking shaving the mustache at least, I dont think mustache + goatee would look right.
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