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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 16:57:27
November 20 2011 16:57 GMT
#121
oh... my... god... what is this?

okok friends from america, I'm never gonna laugh at you for the completely ridiculous bullshit laws your politicians are crafting.... well, at least it's only the eggheads in brussels and not the country governments who are out of their mind here in the EU... I think in the US it's the other way round: the state laws are completely crazy sometimes, especially in certain states (*cough* arizona *cough*), while the federal laws tend to make slightly more sense.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Tdelamay
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada548 Posts
November 20 2011 16:59 GMT
#122
To all the people complaining without reading the article or thinking about the effect of branding bottled water as "Preventing dehydratation"

Here's the last sentence from the article that sums up the issue.
“This claim is trying to imply that there is something special about bottled water which is not a reasonable claim.”

A lot of people are currently delusional about bottled water. They think it's somehow better than tap water, despite not being the case. If bottled water company start advertising that their product prevents dehydratation, then gullible people will think it is somehow better than tap water.

The fact is, bottled water is not better than tap water at preventing dehydration. If you have a disease that prevents your intestines from absorbing water, drinking bottled water won't help you. Drinking 100 ml of tap water or bottled water won't make any difference.

The thread title is misleading. This is meant to prevent companies from undeservingly gain popularity by fooling the idiots.
This road isn't leading anywhere...
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
November 20 2011 17:01 GMT
#123
They should put big warning text on the water bottles like they do on cigarettes. "DOES NOT PREVENT DEHYDRATION"
shizna
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom803 Posts
November 20 2011 17:02 GMT
#124
if you drink too much water you can drop dead from water intoxication.

it's stupid that all the health BS tells people to drink more water, then you read a story about a mother who enters a competition to drink X litres of water in so many minutes and dies because of it.


water causes your electrolyte level to drop, and you die if your electrolyte levels are too low. therefore if water should have a "prevents dehydration" label, then salt should have a "prevents water intoxication" label
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
November 20 2011 17:04 GMT
#125
It actually makes sense-- bottled water is really actually terrible for society.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 17:04:29
November 20 2011 17:04 GMT
#126
On November 21 2011 01:59 Tdelamay wrote:
To all the people complaining without reading the article or thinking about the effect of branding bottled water as "Preventing dehydratation"

Here's the last sentence from the article that sums up the issue.
“This claim is trying to imply that there is something special about bottled water which is not a reasonable claim.”

A lot of people are currently delusional about bottled water. They think it's somehow better than tap water, despite not being the case. If bottled water company start advertising that their product prevents dehydratation, then gullible people will think it is somehow better than tap water.

The fact is, bottled water is not better than tap water at preventing dehydration. If you have a disease that prevents your intestines from absorbing water, drinking bottled water won't help you. Drinking 100 ml of tap water or bottled water won't make any difference.

The thread title is misleading. This is meant to prevent companies from undeservingly gain popularity by fooling the idiots.


The thing is, when you let the government rule on everything a company can or cannot do, you have a police state.
People are supposed to have brains and have the right to make choices.
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 17:09:37
November 20 2011 17:08 GMT
#127
On November 21 2011 02:02 shizna wrote:
if you drink too much water you can drop dead from water intoxication.

it's stupid that all the health BS tells people to drink more water, then you read a story about a mother who enters a competition to drink X litres of water in so many minutes and dies because of it.


water causes your electrolyte level to drop, and you die if your electrolyte levels are too low. therefore if water should have a "prevents dehydration" label, then salt should have a "prevents water intoxication" label



You cannot actually drink enough water do die from water intoxication if youre a well and healthy person. Unless you drink destilled water which is free from electrolytes.

If your sweating galllons from long workout in the hot summer its a different story tho.
Zetter
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany629 Posts
November 20 2011 17:12 GMT
#128
On November 21 2011 01:56 dpurple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 01:54 Zetter wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:47 dpurple wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:44 BlitzerSC wrote:
They did this to prevent false advertisment because drinking water doesn't solve a dehydratation problem.


It doesnt? :p


It doesn't. Dehydration leads to loss of water and isn't caused by lack of water. Cholera, for example, causes dehydration. Drinking water doesn't prevent cholera.


What? Being dead is a cause of dehydration. Did you ever see those mummies in egypt? Drinking water also dont help prevent being dead.


Then it's good no one is saying that drinking water prevents death. It doesn't prevent death as well as dehydration.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
November 20 2011 17:13 GMT
#129
On November 21 2011 01:59 Tdelamay wrote:
To all the people complaining without reading the article or thinking about the effect of branding bottled water as "Preventing dehydratation"

Here's the last sentence from the article that sums up the issue.
“This claim is trying to imply that there is something special about bottled water which is not a reasonable claim.”

A lot of people are currently delusional about bottled water. They think it's somehow better than tap water, despite not being the case. If bottled water company start advertising that their product prevents dehydratation, then gullible people will think it is somehow better than tap water.

The fact is, bottled water is not better than tap water at preventing dehydration. If you have a disease that prevents your intestines from absorbing water, drinking bottled water won't help you. Drinking 100 ml of tap water or bottled water won't make any difference.

The thread title is misleading. This is meant to prevent companies from undeservingly gain popularity by fooling the idiots.

NO. That's not what it is at all. First, they turned it down as a clerical error. Second, the reason it would be turned down is that ALL WATER, alone, is not very helpful for preventing dehydration. It's not about bottled water vs. non-bottled water.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
Brotkrumen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany193 Posts
November 20 2011 17:16 GMT
#130
On November 21 2011 02:04 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 01:59 Tdelamay wrote:
To all the people complaining without reading the article or thinking about the effect of branding bottled water as "Preventing dehydratation"

Here's the last sentence from the article that sums up the issue.
“This claim is trying to imply that there is something special about bottled water which is not a reasonable claim.”

A lot of people are currently delusional about bottled water. They think it's somehow better than tap water, despite not being the case. If bottled water company start advertising that their product prevents dehydratation, then gullible people will think it is somehow better than tap water.

The fact is, bottled water is not better than tap water at preventing dehydration. If you have a disease that prevents your intestines from absorbing water, drinking bottled water won't help you. Drinking 100 ml of tap water or bottled water won't make any difference.

The thread title is misleading. This is meant to prevent companies from undeservingly gain popularity by fooling the idiots.


The thing is, when you let the government rule on everything a company can or cannot do, you have a police state.
People are supposed to have brains and have the right to make choices.


Red herring. making a law against false advertisement as consumer protection does not lead to a police state. Or is provision of laws, police protection and education the first step on that slippery slope?

And make no mistake, the "prevents dehydration" implies that this and only this product does that. why? because we as people would never state something trivially obvious for the given context.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42568 Posts
November 20 2011 17:16 GMT
#131
On November 21 2011 02:04 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 01:59 Tdelamay wrote:
To all the people complaining without reading the article or thinking about the effect of branding bottled water as "Preventing dehydratation"

Here's the last sentence from the article that sums up the issue.
“This claim is trying to imply that there is something special about bottled water which is not a reasonable claim.”

A lot of people are currently delusional about bottled water. They think it's somehow better than tap water, despite not being the case. If bottled water company start advertising that their product prevents dehydratation, then gullible people will think it is somehow better than tap water.

The fact is, bottled water is not better than tap water at preventing dehydration. If you have a disease that prevents your intestines from absorbing water, drinking bottled water won't help you. Drinking 100 ml of tap water or bottled water won't make any difference.

The thread title is misleading. This is meant to prevent companies from undeservingly gain popularity by fooling the idiots.


The thing is, when you let the government rule on everything a company can or cannot do, you have a police state.
People are supposed to have brains and have the right to make choices.

Preventing a company from making false claims is not damaging the consumers ability to make choices in a market. Nor is it a police state.
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 20 2011 17:19 GMT
#132
Meh, that's why I switched to H2O purifier!
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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 17:20:49
November 20 2011 17:19 GMT
#133
On November 21 2011 02:04 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 01:59 Tdelamay wrote:
To all the people complaining without reading the article or thinking about the effect of branding bottled water as "Preventing dehydratation"

Here's the last sentence from the article that sums up the issue.
“This claim is trying to imply that there is something special about bottled water which is not a reasonable claim.”

A lot of people are currently delusional about bottled water. They think it's somehow better than tap water, despite not being the case. If bottled water company start advertising that their product prevents dehydratation, then gullible people will think it is somehow better than tap water.

The fact is, bottled water is not better than tap water at preventing dehydration. If you have a disease that prevents your intestines from absorbing water, drinking bottled water won't help you. Drinking 100 ml of tap water or bottled water won't make any difference.

The thread title is misleading. This is meant to prevent companies from undeservingly gain popularity by fooling the idiots.


The thing is, when you let the government rule on everything a company can or cannot do, you have a police state.
People are supposed to have brains and have the right to make choices.


That has nothing to do with a police state. The government's JOB is to govern, which among the different branches of government includes making the rules, enforcing them, and passing judgement related to them. Everything a private company can or can not do is (and must be) regulated by law.

People do have the right to make choices. In this case, bottled waters have not been outlawed. People can still choose to buy them or not to buy them.
Vore210
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland256 Posts
November 20 2011 17:20 GMT
#134
Pretty sure this is just to stop bottled water companies claiming their water beats tap water.

Lots of people aren't scientifically literate and the gov is just stopping people being manipulated.

U.K tabloids just grabbing anything to make people spit their cereal at the breakfast table in indignation. It sells papers.
Light a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life. - Terry Pratchett
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 17:24:32
November 20 2011 17:20 GMT
#135
On November 21 2011 02:12 Zetter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 01:56 dpurple wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:54 Zetter wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:47 dpurple wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:44 BlitzerSC wrote:
They did this to prevent false advertisment because drinking water doesn't solve a dehydratation problem.


It doesnt? :p


It doesn't. Dehydration leads to loss of water and isn't caused by lack of water. Cholera, for example, causes dehydration. Drinking water doesn't prevent cholera.


What? Being dead is a cause of dehydration. Did you ever see those mummies in egypt? Drinking water also dont help prevent being dead.


Then it's good no one is saying that drinking water prevents death. It doesn't prevent death as well as dehydration.


But it does prevent dehydration. Perhaps not dehydration that is caused by cholera. But it sure prevents dehydration that come from not drinking enough water.


Everywhere we hear that exercise prevent heart disease. Well that is true in many cases, but it could also be the cause of heart disease. So then we should ban all these health magazines and their false information?
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 17:27:25
November 20 2011 17:26 GMT
#136
On November 21 2011 02:20 dpurple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 02:12 Zetter wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:56 dpurple wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:54 Zetter wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:47 dpurple wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:44 BlitzerSC wrote:
They did this to prevent false advertisment because drinking water doesn't solve a dehydratation problem.


It doesnt? :p


It doesn't. Dehydration leads to loss of water and isn't caused by lack of water. Cholera, for example, causes dehydration. Drinking water doesn't prevent cholera.


What? Being dead is a cause of dehydration. Did you ever see those mummies in egypt? Drinking water also dont help prevent being dead.


Then it's good no one is saying that drinking water prevents death. It doesn't prevent death as well as dehydration.


But it does prevent dehydration. Perhaps not dehydration that is caused by cholera. But it sure prevents dehydration that come from not drinking enough water.


Everywhere we hear that exercise prevent heart disease. Well that is true in many cases, but it could also be the cause of heart disease. So then we should ban all these health magazines and their false information?


If they put "buy this magazine to prevent heart disease" or a statement with an equivalent message on the cover, then yes.

Also, it's not the magazines that would be banned. It's just the advertising (going by the analogy).
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
November 20 2011 17:27 GMT
#137
You can't put "prevents dehydration" on bottled water for the same reason you can't put "gives you x-ray vision" on a bag of chips. Its lying, and you can't make it a citizen's job to research everything ever said by any company that can put whatever it wants on its labels. Then everything could prevent everything bad and give you everything good. Then people die.

Some people can barely understand english let alone are researched enough in it to tell when a company is lying in an advertisement. Look at all the people in this thread who thought water could. Its not that simple, therefore truth in advertising should be crucial.
J- Pirate Udyr WW T- Pirate Riven Galio M- Galio Annie S- Sona Lux -- Always farm, never carry.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
November 20 2011 17:28 GMT
#138
On November 21 2011 02:20 dpurple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 02:12 Zetter wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:56 dpurple wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:54 Zetter wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:47 dpurple wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:44 BlitzerSC wrote:
They did this to prevent false advertisment because drinking water doesn't solve a dehydratation problem.


It doesnt? :p


It doesn't. Dehydration leads to loss of water and isn't caused by lack of water. Cholera, for example, causes dehydration. Drinking water doesn't prevent cholera.


What? Being dead is a cause of dehydration. Did you ever see those mummies in egypt? Drinking water also dont help prevent being dead.


Then it's good no one is saying that drinking water prevents death. It doesn't prevent death as well as dehydration.


But it does prevent dehydration. Perhaps not dehydration that is caused by cholera. But it sure prevents dehydration that come from not drinking enough water.
http://www.enotes.com/dehydration-reference/dehydration-171881

That's not true. The most common form of dehydration won't be aided by drinking more water. That's the "common sense" misconception.
ModeratorNow I'm distant, dark in this anthrobeat
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
November 20 2011 17:28 GMT
#139
On November 21 2011 02:08 dpurple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 02:02 shizna wrote:
if you drink too much water you can drop dead from water intoxication.

it's stupid that all the health BS tells people to drink more water, then you read a story about a mother who enters a competition to drink X litres of water in so many minutes and dies because of it.


water causes your electrolyte level to drop, and you die if your electrolyte levels are too low. therefore if water should have a "prevents dehydration" label, then salt should have a "prevents water intoxication" label



You cannot actually drink enough water do die from water intoxication if youre a well and healthy person. Unless you drink destilled water which is free from electrolytes.

If your sweating galllons from long workout in the hot summer its a different story tho.

Maybe you should do less posting and more reading.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_intoxication
J- Pirate Udyr WW T- Pirate Riven Galio M- Galio Annie S- Sona Lux -- Always farm, never carry.
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
November 20 2011 17:30 GMT
#140
On November 21 2011 02:20 dpurple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 02:12 Zetter wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:56 dpurple wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:54 Zetter wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:47 dpurple wrote:
On November 21 2011 01:44 BlitzerSC wrote:
They did this to prevent false advertisment because drinking water doesn't solve a dehydratation problem.


It doesnt? :p


It doesn't. Dehydration leads to loss of water and isn't caused by lack of water. Cholera, for example, causes dehydration. Drinking water doesn't prevent cholera.


What? Being dead is a cause of dehydration. Did you ever see those mummies in egypt? Drinking water also dont help prevent being dead.


Then it's good no one is saying that drinking water prevents death. It doesn't prevent death as well as dehydration.


But it does prevent dehydration. Perhaps not dehydration that is caused by cholera. But it sure prevents dehydration that come from not drinking enough water.


Everywhere we hear that exercise prevent heart disease. Well that is true in many cases, but it could also be the cause of heart disease. So then we should ban all these health magazines and their false information?

NO IT DOESN'T. Get that through your head, this ruling is for people like you. YOU are the idiot they are protecting.

Exercise HELPS prevent heart disease btw.
J- Pirate Udyr WW T- Pirate Riven Galio M- Galio Annie S- Sona Lux -- Always farm, never carry.
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