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http://keepthewebopen.com/sopa
ilovelings
Profile Joined January 2011
Argentina776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 02:05:04
November 28 2011 02:03 GMT
#281
The fun part is that companies are going to host their content in another continent. Moar bux for sweden and germany. If I was, let's say TPB, I would move all company assets to a country without such legislation, effectively hurting American Economy.
People is diying.
TheRPGAddict
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 02:41:37
November 28 2011 02:41 GMT
#282
On November 16 2011 00:37 Galaxy613 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 00:27 nennx wrote:
didn't obama say this was an instant veto if it came to him, or was that another similar bill?


Obama can say things, that doesn't mean he'll follow through with them after he has a nice meeting with some lobbyists to change his mind.

*Edit* Which is true with any modern president.
If he didn't veto it, I think he would completely fuck himself for re-election even if he did support it. Doubt he wouldn't veto by sheer merit of the upcoming election. This bill has to get through Congress though first. Also the Supreme Court can review it and shut it down.
Hattori_Hanzo
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore1229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 02:58:16
November 28 2011 02:53 GMT
#283
Such a tragedy for such a great nation. So swift is its transition into a fascist regime, run from the shadows.
How this bill can even be considered a good idea is beyond me.

Killing the golden goose to get to the egg.
Much of the innovation and wealth was because of the internet and freedom of sharing information.
Not the other way around.
Cauterize the area
Disastorm
Profile Joined January 2008
United States922 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 01:48:16
December 06 2011 01:46 GMT
#284
Looks like this thing is still going on. Hopefully none of these bills will pass. There are some alternatives being thrown around now, and also Kaspersky just left the Business Software Alliance due to the BSA's stance as pro-SOPA. CBS is trying shenanigans by forcing all of the companies that air anything on their channel to support SOPA. Every single major tech company is against the bills, and the Google chairman last month even mentioned that Google would never comply with the SOPA bill (presumably even if it passes). Also last month Yahoo left the Chamber of Commerce due to SOPA, with some saying Google thinking of doing the same.

These bills are just ridiculous if passed not only will they devastate freedoms but they will damage the already damaged economy.
"Don't worry so much man. There won't be any more zergs left to QQ. Lots of QQ about TvT is incoming though I bet." - Vrok 9/21/10
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 00:38:23
December 10 2011 00:25 GMT
#285
The DMCA as it is is already getting abused.
Megaupload had some artists (P Diddy, Will.i.am, Alicia Keys, Snoop Dogg and Kanye West among others) make a promo song for the site; UMG issues a takedown notice on it for copyright infringement, even though it doesn't infringe on it's copyrights:

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111209/11491817023/bunch-riaa-label-artists-endorse-megaupload-as-riaa-insists-its-rogue-site.shtml

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111209/14234917026/universal-music-issues-questionable-takedown-megaupload-video-that-featured-their-artists.shtml

http://torrentfreak.com/universal-censors-megaupload-song-gets-branded-a-rogue-label-111210/

Felt this was relevant to the thread.

Edit:
The "song", it's so bad it's pretty hilarious.
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=NFS30PZO
DarthGoose
Profile Joined July 2010
United States14 Posts
December 13 2011 15:50 GMT
#286
All the Americans out there need to get back to fighting this bill.

SOPA is likely to pass the house committee this Thursday, meaning it is open to a vote at any time. IF it dies in the committee however, it is unlikely it will see the light of day again.

Make your calls, spread the word on facebook, twitter, etc.

http://americancensorship.org/ Provides form letters and a service to help in calling in to your congressmen. Call in, it takes a few minutes at most and will help save your freedom to view content like TeamLiquid.

Honeybadger
Profile Joined August 2010
United States821 Posts
December 13 2011 21:53 GMT
#287
Yet again, sweden is at the forefront of sensibility.

The Pirate Party in sweden is the third largest political party in the nation. Fuck yeah. If the Protect-IP bullshit passes, you know where I'll be moving.
"I like to tape my thumbs to my hands to see what it would be like to be a dinosaur."
Pretty Aluminum
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States95 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 02:58:28
December 14 2011 02:57 GMT
#288
On November 28 2011 11:41 TheRPGAddict wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 00:37 Galaxy613 wrote:
On November 16 2011 00:27 nennx wrote:
didn't obama say this was an instant veto if it came to him, or was that another similar bill?


Obama can say things, that doesn't mean he'll follow through with them after he has a nice meeting with some lobbyists to change his mind.

*Edit* Which is true with any modern president.
If he didn't veto it, I think he would completely fuck himself for re-election even if he did support it. Doubt he wouldn't veto by sheer merit of the upcoming election. This bill has to get through Congress though first. Also the Supreme Court can review it and shut it down.


For the supreme court to be able to shut it down it has to reach the court which means somebody has to challenge it and it has to get appealed to higher and higher courts. This process would take months if not years and by then our favorite sites would possibly already be shut down.

I think its better if everyone just tells their representatives that if this bill passes they will no longer be receiving our vote. That way they will vote it down and we won't have to worry about it anymore. I agree though, that if Obama were to pass this bill he would seal his fate to lose the upcoming election.
It is never too late to be what you might have been. -- George Eliot
Krejven
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden105 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 04:18:51
December 14 2011 04:16 GMT
#289
On December 14 2011 06:53 Honeybadger wrote:
Yet again, sweden is at the forefront of sensibility.

The Pirate Party in sweden is the third largest political party in the nation. Fuck yeah. If the Protect-IP bullshit passes, you know where I'll be moving.


Third largest? Nah that aint right my friend .
Edit: They got 0.65% of the votes during the election last year.
A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort.
MaYuu
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Sweden516 Posts
December 14 2011 06:18 GMT
#290
There's no such thing as a little censorship, just as your girlfriend can't be a little pregnant.
Maybe that's an analogy the right wing on the other side of the sea understand.
ehh`?
zeross
Profile Joined September 2010
France310 Posts
December 14 2011 12:16 GMT
#291
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Request_for_Comment:_SOPA_and_a_strike

Wikipedia's Jimmy Wales ask the community position about this law and said he will maybe take down wikipedia in form of protest. Thats pretty huge i think
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
December 14 2011 14:51 GMT
#292
On December 14 2011 21:16 zeross wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Request_for_Comment:_SOPA_and_a_strike

Wikipedia's Jimmy Wales ask the community position about this law and said he will maybe take down wikipedia in form of protest. Thats pretty huge i think

I really hope he does it. Would make Wikipedia so much more awesome.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 18:33:03
December 14 2011 18:31 GMT
#293
IDK if this has been posted yet, but I've seen this ad on the TV a few weeks ago:

Video

Makes me feel a little better to see that there's others against this, I'm scared for the internet future of this country now.

But the companies are the ones with the $$$ which seems to be the only thing Congress cares about these days
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Pretty Aluminum
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States95 Posts
December 14 2011 21:53 GMT
#294
On December 15 2011 03:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
IDK if this has been posted yet, but I've seen this ad on the TV a few weeks ago:

Video

Makes me feel a little better to see that there's others against this, I'm scared for the internet future of this country now.

But the companies are the ones with the $$$ which seems to be the only thing Congress cares about these days

You realize that commercial was for the passing of the bill correct?
It is never too late to be what you might have been. -- George Eliot
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
December 14 2011 22:11 GMT
#295
On December 15 2011 06:53 Pretty Aluminum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 03:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
IDK if this has been posted yet, but I've seen this ad on the TV a few weeks ago:

Video

Makes me feel a little better to see that there's others against this, I'm scared for the internet future of this country now.

But the companies are the ones with the $$$ which seems to be the only thing Congress cares about these days

You realize that commercial was for the passing of the bill correct?
Yeah, I was just going to say that. It directly says to support the bills. Of course it's under the usual guise of "they took our jobs".
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 14 2011 22:19 GMT
#296
On December 15 2011 07:11 Ben... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 06:53 Pretty Aluminum wrote:
On December 15 2011 03:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
IDK if this has been posted yet, but I've seen this ad on the TV a few weeks ago:

Video

Makes me feel a little better to see that there's others against this, I'm scared for the internet future of this country now.

But the companies are the ones with the $$$ which seems to be the only thing Congress cares about these days

You realize that commercial was for the passing of the bill correct?
Yeah, I was just going to say that. It directly says to support the bills. Of course it's under the usual guise of "they took our jobs".

I don't have the link and I can't really go find it atm, but I think it was Switzerland who stopped a similar law from passing. The committee in Switzerland found that online piracy actually has minimal effect on the income of the music/entertainment industry.

I remember it has something to do with that the people who pirate/download stuff online tend to spend more money on games/movies through legal channels in the first place.
loginn
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
France815 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 22:34:34
December 14 2011 22:32 GMT
#297
Guys, just copyright something like a movie you made (even if it is crap) Then make someone post a link heading towards it on say, warner bros company's website. Sue WarnerBros. Maybe it'll get their head straight.

Edit - typo
Stephano, Taking skill to the bank since IPL3. Also Lucifron and FBH
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
December 15 2011 02:06 GMT
#298
On December 15 2011 07:19 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 07:11 Ben... wrote:
On December 15 2011 06:53 Pretty Aluminum wrote:
On December 15 2011 03:31 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
IDK if this has been posted yet, but I've seen this ad on the TV a few weeks ago:

Video

Makes me feel a little better to see that there's others against this, I'm scared for the internet future of this country now.

But the companies are the ones with the $$$ which seems to be the only thing Congress cares about these days

You realize that commercial was for the passing of the bill correct?
Yeah, I was just going to say that. It directly says to support the bills. Of course it's under the usual guise of "they took our jobs".

I don't have the link and I can't really go find it atm, but I think it was Switzerland who stopped a similar law from passing. The committee in Switzerland found that online piracy actually has minimal effect on the income of the music/entertainment industry.

I remember it has something to do with that the people who pirate/download stuff online tend to spend more money on games/movies through legal channels in the first place.
I've read about that as well, I think it was a thread here with links to sources.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
llKenZyll
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States853 Posts
December 15 2011 03:51 GMT
#299
What are the chances of this happening?
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/nd6nd/tang_in_his_natural_habitat/
ixi.genocide
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States981 Posts
December 15 2011 07:08 GMT
#300
Thank you for taking the time to read this message. I am contacting you regarding the act called SOPA (stop online piracy act). In my opinion, and the opinion of many others, SOPA is the first step in internet censorship and regulation; And because the internet is a medium for free speech in America, this bill is a stepping stone that will inevitably lead to a breach of my first amendment right to free speech. While I believe that piracy over any medium should be prevented, the SOP act is not restrictive enough and will be manipulated and distorted past the peoples intentions for it.

Thank you for your consideration and I hope you make the right choice (whether that be my choice is up to you and your fellow congressmen to decide).

Sincerely,
xxxxxxxxxxxx

I just sent this to my congressman in regards to the SOPA act.
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