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HawaiianPig
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada5155 Posts
November 02 2011 01:44 GMT
#41
This is inevitably going to get into a discussion about corporal punishment.

So here's this:

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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 01:47:00
November 02 2011 01:45 GMT
#42
I didn't have the nerve I didn't want to watch all of it, I saw how it started skipped to where he initially attacks her, I saw the mother yell at her and I saw her crying towards the end. This goes beyond disturbing.
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AlmightyJoker
Profile Joined August 2011
United States48 Posts
November 02 2011 01:45 GMT
#43
im not against spanking, but im against this shit. nothing ever calls for you to do to a child, much less your own child. that dad seems vindictive and controlling rather than just mad and punishing her. hope this ends his legal career
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 01:47:14
November 02 2011 01:45 GMT
#44
On November 02 2011 10:42 Corrosive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 10:37 Kimaker wrote:
While I don't agree with the reason, I see nothing wrong there with the immediate punishment. Yes (having now read the full context of her condition) that was too much. But corporal punishment overall isn't bad.

For me it was the continuation of the conversation that got me riled up. Corporal punishment is fine, I myself was raised with corporal punishment as a possibility, but the fact that he didn't let it go was a bit much for me. Honestly, everyone's going to freak out and say she should be removed from the house, but I think that's ridiculous. She got belted. Woo hoo. Getting belted hurts like a son of a bitch, but it's nothing seriously harmful.

And please don't pull the "mentally scarring" card out. It's not. I promise you.



I really hope you're trolling.

No I'm not.

I find the situation in this case disgusting if all the facts are indeed true, and that man should be locked up. But corporal punishment isn't a horrendous sign of "bad parenting". I feel like the way the punishment is delivered (what is said, why, etc) is more potentially scarring than the act itself.

Just think THAT should be the focus of what went wrong here, what's truly disgusting about the video. Circumstance is what makes this terrible, not the punishment itself. At least for me.
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Antares777
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1971 Posts
November 02 2011 01:45 GMT
#45
This is terrible, I can't believe anyone would do that. Just for downloading some things on an iPhone? For real? Who cares?
kruzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada81 Posts
November 02 2011 01:46 GMT
#46
Simply disgusting, this guy will get so much bad press from this. I wish I could see his face as he watch's this video and the comments it is receiving.
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Mitchlew
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia428 Posts
November 02 2011 01:46 GMT
#47
This is what happens when you have a higher ICCUP rating than your father
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 01:48:49
November 02 2011 01:46 GMT
#48
On November 02 2011 10:37 VPCursed wrote:
I don't understand.. Shes getting beat.. for using the internet?
i thought judges had to be rational.. what the fuck?


One of the tags for the video is "kazaa" so it's most likely because she was pirating stuff. Since it's his house he would be liable if they get sued for copyright infringement, which can cost a bit of money and probably isn't good for his career. Not defending him, just trying to fill in some holes with logical speculation.

besides, anyone that is "against technology" isn't very likely to buy a computer for their daughter with internet access.
Kluey
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1197 Posts
November 02 2011 01:46 GMT
#49
There's a difference between teaching your child and killing your child. A slap on the back of the head if he, not she, bad mouths someone but a belt? Furthermore, beating your DAUGHTER as a grown man? Thats a bit sad, no?
Darclite
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1021 Posts
November 02 2011 01:46 GMT
#50
What the fuck?

The beating was the fucking sick part obviously, I'm just quoting to show the ignorance:
"All the fucking problem them computers cause"
"Take it like a 16 year old girl"
"You don't deserve to fucking be in this house"

You don't fucking deserve to live.
They're fools. You should eat them.
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-02 01:49:05
November 02 2011 01:47 GMT
#51
On November 02 2011 10:37 Kimaker wrote:
While I don't agree with the reason, I see nothing wrong there with the immediate punishment. Yes (having now read the full context of her condition) that was too much. But corporal punishment overall isn't bad.

For me it was the continuation of the conversation that got me riled up. Corporal punishment is fine, I myself was raised with corporal punishment as a possibility, but the fact that he didn't let it go was a bit much for me. Honestly, everyone's going to freak out and say she should be removed from the house, but I think that's ridiculous. She got belted. Woo hoo. Getting belted hurts like a son of a bitch, but it's nothing seriously harmful.

And please don't pull the "mentally scarring" card out. It's not. I promise you.



According to you it isn't mentally scarring, but that's not a very convincing argument...you'd need a study to actually provide legitimate support for that statement (which will probably never happen). Different people react in different ways!

Also don't you think there's a better way to discipline children than beating them or whipping them? Shouldn't we be trying to evolve beyond using corporeal punishment? He could have grounded her, or cut off internet for X period of time.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
November 02 2011 01:47 GMT
#52
Why was this recorded anyway? Lol.
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Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
November 02 2011 01:47 GMT
#53
I've seen beatings like this but none this bad and ongoing like that... and certainly not for simply using the internet. =/ sadly not much will really come out of this- maybe just a slap on the wrist. But his reputation will surely be hurt because of the fact that he is a judge.
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Earll
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Norway847 Posts
November 02 2011 01:47 GMT
#54
I am interested in hearing about the legality of this\similar situations? In my opinion anything that can be categorized as "beating" a child should be illegal. If it is something that is "illegal" to do to a random person on the street, it should be doubly illegal to do to a defenseless child. One could say that oh people should be allowed to raise their children how they would like to, but imo if you need to resort to beating your children to enforce discipline maybe you are not fit to be a parent.
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albis
Profile Joined January 2010
United States652 Posts
November 02 2011 01:49 GMT
#55
On November 02 2011 10:47 Ferrose wrote:
Why was this recorded anyway? Lol.

hahahahahahha

ya. great call.
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InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
November 02 2011 01:49 GMT
#56
On November 02 2011 10:43 Dacendoran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2011 10:40 Coutcha wrote:
On November 02 2011 10:37 Dacendoran wrote:
I'm fairly certain this is legal, he never struck her in the face or with anything other than a belt, let alone a closed fist. It's a parent's job to decide how their children get punished and while this guy is a dick I don't think legally anything will come of it. Outside of the justice system though I hope he feels some kind of ramifications for this.

o.O wtf this is legal??????

really


I don't know about the law in Arkansas but I've had experience with CPS (child protective services) and the police before against my stepdad (in Florida when I was 15 IE 6 years ago) striking me open handed in the face repeatedly and even "clapping" me in the ears. Since he never struck me with a closed fist and it was all "punishment" it was apparently legal I could be wrong, though maybe this video could prove to be psychologically abusive?


Is that really what defines abuse? Having to ball up your hand into a fist? Thats nuts because I'm pretty sure I could beat someone bloody with even a open hand.
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Tippecanoe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States342 Posts
November 02 2011 01:49 GMT
#57
Dad yells about daughter using the computer.

Dad goes back to watching T.V.

L
o
L

WTB Justice for the Judge
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
November 02 2011 01:49 GMT
#58
On November 02 2011 10:45 Antares777 wrote:
This is terrible, I can't believe anyone would do that. Just for downloading some things on an iPhone? For real? Who cares?


.... I don't think the first iPhone was released till a few years later
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zakmaa
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada525 Posts
November 02 2011 01:49 GMT
#59
Interesting how a judge is so apt to beat his daughter. Well, at least she was smart and knew what was coming and recorded it. And how sickening it is. Hope the fucker goes to jail, maybe he'll get to meet some of the people he sent there. Who knows? One can hope..
jupidar
Profile Joined December 2010
United States229 Posts
November 02 2011 01:50 GMT
#60
This doesn't even seem that abnormal to me... I mean he was using probably too much force and cussed a lot with threats but this doesn't seem as far out of the ordinary as people make it seem.
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