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On November 02 2011 00:43 buhhy wrote: This comes because of a 1994 law that requires the US to cut financial ties with any UN organization that recognizes Palestine.
This is a serious error OP, the law states that the US must cut financial ties with any UN organization that recognizes Palestine BEFORE A PEACE AGREEMENT WITH ISRAEL IS REACHED. The way you have presented it is skewed and it is statements like this that generate the polarization that we have around this issue. Please fix the misinformation, I know that you didn't do it on purpose but it is a significant difference as the US's tie-breaking is only contingent upon the peace in the region between Palestine and Israel, if peace was achieved then the US would return 100% of funding.
Please correct OP.
Thank you.
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On November 03 2011 03:41 Sgonzo wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 03:31 FryBender wrote:On November 03 2011 03:20 Pika Chu wrote: You don't take palestinians for human beings or equals of israelis.
Unfortunately neither do the Palestinians. When you demand 1000 of your prisoners for one of your enemy's you kinda set your own exchange rate. So apparently the Palestinians think that they are worth 1/1000 of an Israeli. Also why are we funding 20% of UNESCO when they have 160+ members???? no1 knows why USA pays so much into UNESCO, but the real question is why do they spend couple trillion a year on dropping bombs
What does that have to do with anything? I'm just asking how are the membership dues assessed for all of these organizations.
It certainly does looks like they're going to have a mexican stand-off if Palestine tries to join other organizations. Obviously the US wants to be a part of WHO and WIPO but it can't if Palestine joins. On the other hand I'd imagine most of these organization need US funding more then they need the political statement of accepting Palestine. So who's going to back down first?
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On November 03 2011 03:31 FryBender wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 03:20 Pika Chu wrote: You don't take palestinians for human beings or equals of israelis.
Unfortunately neither do the Palestinians. When you demand 1000 of your prisoners for one of your enemy's you kinda set your own exchange rate. So apparently the Palestinians think that they are worth 1/1000 of an Israeli.
Yea they should totally rejected 999 of those guys and do it 1/1. Who cares about 999 peoples lives when their pride is on the line....
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On November 03 2011 03:51 Tiax;mous wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 03:31 FryBender wrote:On November 03 2011 03:20 Pika Chu wrote: You don't take palestinians for human beings or equals of israelis.
Unfortunately neither do the Palestinians. When you demand 1000 of your prisoners for one of your enemy's you kinda set your own exchange rate. So apparently the Palestinians think that they are worth 1/1000 of an Israeli. Yea they should totally rejected 999 of those guys and do it 1/1. Who cares about 999 peoples lives when their pride is on the line.... Israel did not offer 1000 prisoners, Palestinians demanded 1000 prisoners for one. Therefore they are the ones assesing their own worth. And while certainly I can understand the practicality of trying to get as much as you can in an exchange you have to then be able to live with the consequences of the deals you make. If you tell the world that you think that one Israeli life is worth 1000 of your own people's lives then what do you expect?
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On November 03 2011 03:28 Durp wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 03:20 Pika Chu wrote:On November 03 2011 03:04 Durp wrote:On November 03 2011 02:58 Pika Chu wrote:Durp, i will quote something you said: Palestinian government doesn't police its citizens and rockets are still being shot out of Palestine into Israel) I would feel strongly that Israel would have every right to then go fuck up whoever there they want. Men, women, soldiers, civilians, whomever That is what I said, though taken pretty remarkably out of context. You should edit for Michael Moore. In or out, it's just as sick. You don't take palestinians for human beings or equals of israelis. You could supplant any two groups of people for the parties at hand, my feelings wouldn't change in the slightest.
So if an israeli madman throws a bomb in red square in moscow the russians have every right to go fuck up whoever they want, kill the israeli women, men, soldiers, civilians whomever wherever.
I just hope you made a mistake or you're not actually understanding what you wrote... because this is absolutely sick.
(If Palestinian government doesn't police its citizens and rockets are still being shot out of Palestine into Israel) I would feel strongly that Israel would have every right to then go fuck up whoever there they want. Men, women, soldiers, civilians, whomever
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On November 03 2011 03:55 FryBender wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 03:51 Tiax;mous wrote:On November 03 2011 03:31 FryBender wrote:On November 03 2011 03:20 Pika Chu wrote: You don't take palestinians for human beings or equals of israelis.
Unfortunately neither do the Palestinians. When you demand 1000 of your prisoners for one of your enemy's you kinda set your own exchange rate. So apparently the Palestinians think that they are worth 1/1000 of an Israeli. Yea they should totally rejected 999 of those guys and do it 1/1. Who cares about 999 peoples lives when their pride is on the line.... Israel did not offer 1000 prisoners, Palestinians demanded 1000 prisoners for one. Therefore they are the ones assesing their own worth. And while certainly I can understand the practicality of trying to get as much as you can in an exchange you have to then be able to live with the consequences of the deals you make. If you tell the world that you think that one Israeli life is worth 1000 of your own people's lives then what do you expect?
http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-17/middleeast/world_meast_israel-prisoner-swap-explainer_1_israeli-army-outpost-israel-s-prisons-authority-palestinian-prisoners?_s=PM:MIDDLEEAST
The Palestinians were merely trying to get as many as they could. I'm sure the Israelis like the international image that a single one of them is worth 1000 Palestinians.
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On November 03 2011 04:05 blinken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 03:55 FryBender wrote:On November 03 2011 03:51 Tiax;mous wrote:On November 03 2011 03:31 FryBender wrote:On November 03 2011 03:20 Pika Chu wrote: You don't take palestinians for human beings or equals of israelis.
Unfortunately neither do the Palestinians. When you demand 1000 of your prisoners for one of your enemy's you kinda set your own exchange rate. So apparently the Palestinians think that they are worth 1/1000 of an Israeli. Yea they should totally rejected 999 of those guys and do it 1/1. Who cares about 999 peoples lives when their pride is on the line.... Israel did not offer 1000 prisoners, Palestinians demanded 1000 prisoners for one. Therefore they are the ones assesing their own worth. And while certainly I can understand the practicality of trying to get as much as you can in an exchange you have to then be able to live with the consequences of the deals you make. If you tell the world that you think that one Israeli life is worth 1000 of your own people's lives then what do you expect? http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-17/middleeast/world_meast_israel-prisoner-swap-explainer_1_israeli-army-outpost-israel-s-prisons-authority-palestinian-prisoners?_s=PM:MIDDLEEASTThe Palestinians were merely trying to get as many as they could. I'm sure the Israelis like the international image that a single one of them is worth 1000 Palestinians.
nice link, and lol to your last comment a little bit of humour wont hurt this thread
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israel is quite evil. if they would back off, the middle east wouldnt have nearly as many problems if any at all. the us is just as guilty for supporting israel.
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On November 03 2011 04:05 blinken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 03:55 FryBender wrote:On November 03 2011 03:51 Tiax;mous wrote:On November 03 2011 03:31 FryBender wrote:On November 03 2011 03:20 Pika Chu wrote: You don't take palestinians for human beings or equals of israelis.
Unfortunately neither do the Palestinians. When you demand 1000 of your prisoners for one of your enemy's you kinda set your own exchange rate. So apparently the Palestinians think that they are worth 1/1000 of an Israeli. Yea they should totally rejected 999 of those guys and do it 1/1. Who cares about 999 peoples lives when their pride is on the line.... Israel did not offer 1000 prisoners, Palestinians demanded 1000 prisoners for one. Therefore they are the ones assesing their own worth. And while certainly I can understand the practicality of trying to get as much as you can in an exchange you have to then be able to live with the consequences of the deals you make. If you tell the world that you think that one Israeli life is worth 1000 of your own people's lives then what do you expect? http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-17/middleeast/world_meast_israel-prisoner-swap-explainer_1_israeli-army-outpost-israel-s-prisons-authority-palestinian-prisoners?_s=PM:MIDDLEEASTThe Palestinians were merely trying to get as many as they could. I'm sure the Israelis like the international image that a single one of them is worth 1000 Palestinians.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45063452/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/#.TrGRqUOa9tM
As that article shows Israel has always had an inflated exchange rate (~400:1) of prisoners. I can't find the source at the moment but they offered that same exchange rate for Shalit on a number of occasions and got no luck with it. The Palestinians demanded more. So it is the Palestinians who are still the ones that are telling the world what they think they are worth.
This is form the article that you quoted: Speaking to his Cabinet this week, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that with so much change sweeping the region, he did not know whether a better deal for Shalit was possible, and warned that he didn't act during this window of opportunity, it could close indefinitely.
Clearly it's not like Israel demanded that they release more Palestinians.
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On November 03 2011 04:05 Pika Chu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 03:28 Durp wrote:On November 03 2011 03:20 Pika Chu wrote:On November 03 2011 03:04 Durp wrote:On November 03 2011 02:58 Pika Chu wrote:Durp, i will quote something you said: Palestinian government doesn't police its citizens and rockets are still being shot out of Palestine into Israel) I would feel strongly that Israel would have every right to then go fuck up whoever there they want. Men, women, soldiers, civilians, whomever That is what I said, though taken pretty remarkably out of context. You should edit for Michael Moore. In or out, it's just as sick. You don't take palestinians for human beings or equals of israelis. You could supplant any two groups of people for the parties at hand, my feelings wouldn't change in the slightest. So if an israeli madman throws a bomb in red square in moscow the russians have every right to go fuck up whoever they want, kill the israeli women, men, soldiers, civilians whomever wherever. I just hope you made a mistake or you're not actually understanding what you wrote... because this is absolutely sick. Show nested quote +(If Palestinian government doesn't police its citizens and rockets are still being shot out of Palestine into Israel) I would feel strongly that Israel would have every right to then go fuck up whoever there they want. Men, women, soldiers, civilians, whomever
Palestinian militants use women and children suicide bombers to target innocent civilians. They don't make an effort to attack strategic military points, they make efforts to attack civilians and innocents. They use mosques and homes to hide and harbor weapons. They hide themselves within the civilian population. Stop proposing ridiculous hypothetical situations that make no sense. You are simply making an ass out of yourself.
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On November 03 2011 04:05 blinken wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 03:55 FryBender wrote:On November 03 2011 03:51 Tiax;mous wrote:On November 03 2011 03:31 FryBender wrote:On November 03 2011 03:20 Pika Chu wrote: You don't take palestinians for human beings or equals of israelis.
Unfortunately neither do the Palestinians. When you demand 1000 of your prisoners for one of your enemy's you kinda set your own exchange rate. So apparently the Palestinians think that they are worth 1/1000 of an Israeli. Yea they should totally rejected 999 of those guys and do it 1/1. Who cares about 999 peoples lives when their pride is on the line.... Israel did not offer 1000 prisoners, Palestinians demanded 1000 prisoners for one. Therefore they are the ones assesing their own worth. And while certainly I can understand the practicality of trying to get as much as you can in an exchange you have to then be able to live with the consequences of the deals you make. If you tell the world that you think that one Israeli life is worth 1000 of your own people's lives then what do you expect? http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-17/middleeast/world_meast_israel-prisoner-swap-explainer_1_israeli-army-outpost-israel-s-prisons-authority-palestinian-prisoners?_s=PM:MIDDLEEASTThe Palestinians were merely trying to get as many as they could. I'm sure the Israelis like the international image that a single one of them is worth 1000 Palestinians. How can you even say that? Do you have any idea what a shitstorm there was in Israel for the fact that we even considered freeing 1000 prisoners (most of whom are terrorists and even chiefs of terrorist squads) just because one Israeli kid hasn't come home to his parents? The whole point of this taking 5 friggin' years is because the price was up there.
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(Palestinian government doesn't police its citizens and rockets are still being shot out of Palestine into Israel) I would feel strongly that Israel would have every right to then go fuck up whoever there they want. Men, women, soldiers, civilians, whomever What the fuck is this? Flash forbid the average Israeli or Zionist had these genocidal sentiments, especially considering they've already been the oppressors for 60 years.
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On November 03 2011 04:21 Supcraft.Rez wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 04:05 blinken wrote:On November 03 2011 03:55 FryBender wrote:On November 03 2011 03:51 Tiax;mous wrote:On November 03 2011 03:31 FryBender wrote:On November 03 2011 03:20 Pika Chu wrote: You don't take palestinians for human beings or equals of israelis.
Unfortunately neither do the Palestinians. When you demand 1000 of your prisoners for one of your enemy's you kinda set your own exchange rate. So apparently the Palestinians think that they are worth 1/1000 of an Israeli. Yea they should totally rejected 999 of those guys and do it 1/1. Who cares about 999 peoples lives when their pride is on the line.... Israel did not offer 1000 prisoners, Palestinians demanded 1000 prisoners for one. Therefore they are the ones assesing their own worth. And while certainly I can understand the practicality of trying to get as much as you can in an exchange you have to then be able to live with the consequences of the deals you make. If you tell the world that you think that one Israeli life is worth 1000 of your own people's lives then what do you expect? http://articles.cnn.com/2011-10-17/middleeast/world_meast_israel-prisoner-swap-explainer_1_israeli-army-outpost-israel-s-prisons-authority-palestinian-prisoners?_s=PM:MIDDLEEASTThe Palestinians were merely trying to get as many as they could. I'm sure the Israelis like the international image that a single one of them is worth 1000 Palestinians. How can you even say that? Do you have any idea what a shitstorm there was in Israel for the fact that we even considered freeing 1000 prisoners (most of whom are terrorists and even chiefs of terrorist squads) just because one Israeli kid hasn't come home to his parents? The whole point of this taking 5 friggin' years is because the price was up there.
If you haven't noticed, pretty much no one in this thread knows what they are saying, they just link random articles and post senseless one liners.
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On November 03 2011 04:18 ParkwayDrive wrote: israel is quite evil. if they would back off, the middle east wouldnt have nearly as many problems if any at all. the us is just as guilty for supporting israel.
Seriously? You're going to accuse them of being 'evil' for being seriously concerned about their own safety when they're being attacked by missiles every day?
They're not blameless, and they're doing a lot that's wrong, but don't be so freaking stupid as to think that it's all black and white. We don't have one side in the right and one side in the wrong, we have two sides in the wrong, so at this point it's just a question of fixing a huge problem by trying to fix the worst wrongs we can, without committing more serious ones.
Not to mention the palestinians are using terrorist tactics like human shields.
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On November 03 2011 04:22 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Show nested quote +(Palestinian government doesn't police its citizens and rockets are still being shot out of Palestine into Israel) I would feel strongly that Israel would have every right to then go fuck up whoever there they want. Men, women, soldiers, civilians, whomever What the fuck is this? Flash forbid the average Israeli or Zionist had these genocidal sentiments, especially considering they've already been the oppressors for 60 years.
Your posts have quickly devolved from having some semblance of reason and merit to being utterly anti-Semitic. I doubt you have read either of those texts by the way you speak. You are no different than the ignorant morons who take the Quran completely out of context to bash on all Islamic people.
Edit: seems like you quickly edited your own post to make it less hateful.
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On November 03 2011 04:29 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 04:22 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:(Palestinian government doesn't police its citizens and rockets are still being shot out of Palestine into Israel) I would feel strongly that Israel would have every right to then go fuck up whoever there they want. Men, women, soldiers, civilians, whomever What the fuck is this? Flash forbid the average Israeli or Zionist had these genocidal sentiments, especially considering they've already been the oppressors for 60 years. Your posts have quickly devolved from having some semblance of reason and merit to being utterly anti-Semitic. I doubt you have read either of those texts by the way you speak. You are no different than the ignorant morons who take the Quran completely out of context to bash on all Islamic people. Edit: seems like you quickly edited your own post to make it less hateful. Fixing grammar errors makes something less hateful. Indeed. Or are you referring to something else? lolwut? at your post and edit. I edited that part out just because I realized some asshurt fanatics like yourself because you're butthurt. But no, it is a Jewish belief that they are the 'chosen people' and that they are above everyone else. I don't think there's anything taken out of context when even Jews and evangelical Christians have told me this belief. Many Jews have dropped this belief, but that doesn't change the fact that it is still a Jewish belief, so your argument is invalid. It isn't hateful. It's stating facts. Funny you bring up Islam seeing as you're probably Muslim. No, I've read the Quran, and I know Islam pretty well. I will say that some peoples like the Kurds and Saudis are rather backwards with Sharia and stupid shit. Meanwhile, peoples like Lebanese, Egyptians, Iraqis, etc. are practically polar opposite, being generally very secular and are Muslim. So no, I don't take things out of context or one of the majority of Americans who is terribly bigoted against Arabs and Muslims.
Please troll somewhere else please. Only a troll claims that someone condemning Israeli actions and ideology is Judeophobic. Lol growing up as a Christian, I have indeed read the Old Testament, and a few times at that, since I love reading and reading many things, especially historical and mythological texts. Your argument is completely invalid. As one very interested in history and many related things, I've also read other Jewish texts, Quran, other ancient religious texts and studies on them (particularly Egyptian, Greek, Hindu, and Assyrian). Way to make yourself look even more foolish. You've already been trolling throughout this thread, and I and others have proved each of your posts terribly incorrect, wrong, and irrational, so why do you still troll? Go troll somewhere else. Stop making me laugh XD
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On November 03 2011 05:06 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 04:29 SupLilSon wrote:On November 03 2011 04:22 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:(Palestinian government doesn't police its citizens and rockets are still being shot out of Palestine into Israel) I would feel strongly that Israel would have every right to then go fuck up whoever there they want. Men, women, soldiers, civilians, whomever What the fuck is this? Flash forbid the average Israeli or Zionist had these genocidal sentiments, especially considering they've already been the oppressors for 60 years. Your posts have quickly devolved from having some semblance of reason and merit to being utterly anti-Semitic. I doubt you have read either of those texts by the way you speak. You are no different than the ignorant morons who take the Quran completely out of context to bash on all Islamic people. Edit: seems like you quickly edited your own post to make it less hateful. Fixing grammar errors makes something less hateful. Indeed. Also, please troll somewhere else please. Only a troll claims that someone condemning Israeli actions and ideology is Judeophobic. Lol growing up as a Christian, I have indeed read the Old Testament, and a few times at that, since I love reading and reading many things, especially historical and mythological texts. Your argument is completely invalid. As one very interested in history and many related things, I've also read other Jewish texts, Quran, other ancient religious texts and studies on them (particularly Egyptian, Greek, Hindu, and Assyrian). Way to make yourself look even more foolish. You've already been trolling throughout this thread, and I and others have proved each of your posts terribly incorrect, wrong, and irrational, so why do you still troll?
Removing an entire paragraph that lambasted the Old Testament and Talmud for instilling a hatred towards other peoples in Israelis is "Fixing grammar errors"?
I'm not trolling and no one but you has misconstrued my posts as such. But I guess that's the new internet tactic, when you cant provide a counter point just call the person a troll.... touche. Well played.
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On November 03 2011 05:11 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 05:06 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:On November 03 2011 04:29 SupLilSon wrote:On November 03 2011 04:22 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:(Palestinian government doesn't police its citizens and rockets are still being shot out of Palestine into Israel) I would feel strongly that Israel would have every right to then go fuck up whoever there they want. Men, women, soldiers, civilians, whomever What the fuck is this? Flash forbid the average Israeli or Zionist had these genocidal sentiments, especially considering they've already been the oppressors for 60 years. Your posts have quickly devolved from having some semblance of reason and merit to being utterly anti-Semitic. I doubt you have read either of those texts by the way you speak. You are no different than the ignorant morons who take the Quran completely out of context to bash on all Islamic people. Edit: seems like you quickly edited your own post to make it less hateful. Fixing grammar errors makes something less hateful. Indeed. Also, please troll somewhere else please. Only a troll claims that someone condemning Israeli actions and ideology is Judeophobic. Lol growing up as a Christian, I have indeed read the Old Testament, and a few times at that, since I love reading and reading many things, especially historical and mythological texts. Your argument is completely invalid. As one very interested in history and many related things, I've also read other Jewish texts, Quran, other ancient religious texts and studies on them (particularly Egyptian, Greek, Hindu, and Assyrian). Way to make yourself look even more foolish. You've already been trolling throughout this thread, and I and others have proved each of your posts terribly incorrect, wrong, and irrational, so why do you still troll? Removing an entire paragraph that lambasted the Old Testament and Talmud for instilling a hatred towards other peoples in Israelis is "Fixing grammar errors"? I'm not trolling and no one but you has misconstrued my posts as such. But I guess that's the new internet tactic, when you cant provide a counter point just call the person a troll.... touche. Well played. Uhh, there was no lambasting. All I said was that it is a Jewish belief that they are 'chosen people'. I even stated that many Jews do not believe this, but some, especially Israeli hardliners, do, and that it is a Jewish belief. Stating a simple fact isn't instilling hatred. The fact that you can't see that just shows how badly you're trolling, which you've been doing this whole thread. Btw, in my edit the last post of mine, which I started before you mad this post and which made because I initially thought you were so asshurt as to complain over grammatical mistakes and were making some ridiculous claim (which you were, in any case) I explain it. It's funny, because you're the exact sort of person described in the first few pages. Lol can't condemn terrible violent acts or can't state simple facts or else be called Judeophobic. Lol trolling or stupid, which one?
I and others have destroyed every ridiculous post and claim you've made in this thread, even as ridiculous as Israel is completely justified and absolved in everything it's done. Your sarcastic statement is funny because I did make counterpoints to your last post and to many of your other claims that were senseless and irrational and based on some alternate reality dreamworld of yours, and have throughout this thread. I called you a troll because that's all you're doing lol. Yes, people acting the way you are are either trolling or just ignorant and dumb. Rather than calling people Judeophobic for the most irrational reasons, why not actually make some sort of argument to give some logic and reasoning to some of your silly posts? You've been nothing more than a witch hunter in this thread when you haven't been spewing ignorant and incorrect nonsense.
That said, go to the Judge beats daughter thread, where people are calling Arabs and Muslims barbarians and ass backwards people. Oh no, that's not bad to you. But when someone states actual facts of events and actions the like, it's obviously ridiculously hateful according to you, at least when it involves the Israelis ahahah. Lol, you're a real comedian, man 
EDIT: Forgot. When you aren't 'witch hunting' or stating ridiculous things, you're attacking strawmen. Touche. Get that strawman :D
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On November 03 2011 05:15 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 05:11 SupLilSon wrote:On November 03 2011 05:06 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:On November 03 2011 04:29 SupLilSon wrote:On November 03 2011 04:22 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:(Palestinian government doesn't police its citizens and rockets are still being shot out of Palestine into Israel) I would feel strongly that Israel would have every right to then go fuck up whoever there they want. Men, women, soldiers, civilians, whomever What the fuck is this? Flash forbid the average Israeli or Zionist had these genocidal sentiments, especially considering they've already been the oppressors for 60 years. Your posts have quickly devolved from having some semblance of reason and merit to being utterly anti-Semitic. I doubt you have read either of those texts by the way you speak. You are no different than the ignorant morons who take the Quran completely out of context to bash on all Islamic people. Edit: seems like you quickly edited your own post to make it less hateful. Fixing grammar errors makes something less hateful. Indeed. Also, please troll somewhere else please. Only a troll claims that someone condemning Israeli actions and ideology is Judeophobic. Lol growing up as a Christian, I have indeed read the Old Testament, and a few times at that, since I love reading and reading many things, especially historical and mythological texts. Your argument is completely invalid. As one very interested in history and many related things, I've also read other Jewish texts, Quran, other ancient religious texts and studies on them (particularly Egyptian, Greek, Hindu, and Assyrian). Way to make yourself look even more foolish. You've already been trolling throughout this thread, and I and others have proved each of your posts terribly incorrect, wrong, and irrational, so why do you still troll? Removing an entire paragraph that lambasted the Old Testament and Talmud for instilling a hatred towards other peoples in Israelis is "Fixing grammar errors"? I'm not trolling and no one but you has misconstrued my posts as such. But I guess that's the new internet tactic, when you cant provide a counter point just call the person a troll.... touche. Well played. Uhh, there was no lambasting. All I said was that it is a Jewish belief that they are 'chosen people'. I even stated that many Jews do not believe this, but some, especially Israeli hardliners, do, and that it is a Jewish belief. Stating a simple fact isn't instilling hatred. The fact that you can't see that just shows how badly you're trolling, which you've been doing this whole thread. Btw, in my edit the last post of mine, which I started before you mad this post and which made because I initially thought you were so asshurt as to complain over grammatical mistakes and were making some ridiculous claim (which you were, in any case) I explain it. It's funny, because you're the exact sort of person described in the first few pages. Lol can't condemn terrible violent acts or can't state simple facts or else be called Judeophobic. Lol trolling or stupid, which one? I and others have destroyed every ridiculous post and claim you've made in this thread, even as ridiculous as Israel is completely justified and absolved in everything it's done. It's funny because I did make counterpoints to your last post and to many of your other claims that were senseless and irrational and based on some alternate reality dreamworld of yours, and have throughout this thread. I called you a troll because that's all you're doing lol. Yes, people acting the way you are are either trolling or just ignorant and dumb. Rather than calling people Judeophobic for the most irrational reasons, why not actually make some sort of argument to give some logic and reasoning to some of your silly posts? You've been nothing more than a witch hunter in this thread when you haven't been spewing ignorant and incorrect nonsense. That said, go to the Judge beats daughter thread, where people are calling Arabs and Muslims barbarians and ass backwards people. Oh no, that's not bad to you. But when someone states actual facts of events and actions the like, it's obviously ridiculously hateful according to you. Lol, you're a real comedian, man 
I actually consistently said that both Israelis and Palestinians were guilty of wrongdoings during the course of the conflicts. And I'm done trying to engage you because it's painfully obvious to everyone that you have no interest in actually reading other people's responses. Take some of your own advice, please.
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On November 03 2011 05:30 SupLilSon wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2011 05:15 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:On November 03 2011 05:11 SupLilSon wrote:On November 03 2011 05:06 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:On November 03 2011 04:29 SupLilSon wrote:On November 03 2011 04:22 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:(Palestinian government doesn't police its citizens and rockets are still being shot out of Palestine into Israel) I would feel strongly that Israel would have every right to then go fuck up whoever there they want. Men, women, soldiers, civilians, whomever What the fuck is this? Flash forbid the average Israeli or Zionist had these genocidal sentiments, especially considering they've already been the oppressors for 60 years. Your posts have quickly devolved from having some semblance of reason and merit to being utterly anti-Semitic. I doubt you have read either of those texts by the way you speak. You are no different than the ignorant morons who take the Quran completely out of context to bash on all Islamic people. Edit: seems like you quickly edited your own post to make it less hateful. Fixing grammar errors makes something less hateful. Indeed. Also, please troll somewhere else please. Only a troll claims that someone condemning Israeli actions and ideology is Judeophobic. Lol growing up as a Christian, I have indeed read the Old Testament, and a few times at that, since I love reading and reading many things, especially historical and mythological texts. Your argument is completely invalid. As one very interested in history and many related things, I've also read other Jewish texts, Quran, other ancient religious texts and studies on them (particularly Egyptian, Greek, Hindu, and Assyrian). Way to make yourself look even more foolish. You've already been trolling throughout this thread, and I and others have proved each of your posts terribly incorrect, wrong, and irrational, so why do you still troll? Removing an entire paragraph that lambasted the Old Testament and Talmud for instilling a hatred towards other peoples in Israelis is "Fixing grammar errors"? I'm not trolling and no one but you has misconstrued my posts as such. But I guess that's the new internet tactic, when you cant provide a counter point just call the person a troll.... touche. Well played. Uhh, there was no lambasting. All I said was that it is a Jewish belief that they are 'chosen people'. I even stated that many Jews do not believe this, but some, especially Israeli hardliners, do, and that it is a Jewish belief. Stating a simple fact isn't instilling hatred. The fact that you can't see that just shows how badly you're trolling, which you've been doing this whole thread. Btw, in my edit the last post of mine, which I started before you mad this post and which made because I initially thought you were so asshurt as to complain over grammatical mistakes and were making some ridiculous claim (which you were, in any case) I explain it. It's funny, because you're the exact sort of person described in the first few pages. Lol can't condemn terrible violent acts or can't state simple facts or else be called Judeophobic. Lol trolling or stupid, which one? I and others have destroyed every ridiculous post and claim you've made in this thread, even as ridiculous as Israel is completely justified and absolved in everything it's done. It's funny because I did make counterpoints to your last post and to many of your other claims that were senseless and irrational and based on some alternate reality dreamworld of yours, and have throughout this thread. I called you a troll because that's all you're doing lol. Yes, people acting the way you are are either trolling or just ignorant and dumb. Rather than calling people Judeophobic for the most irrational reasons, why not actually make some sort of argument to give some logic and reasoning to some of your silly posts? You've been nothing more than a witch hunter in this thread when you haven't been spewing ignorant and incorrect nonsense. That said, go to the Judge beats daughter thread, where people are calling Arabs and Muslims barbarians and ass backwards people. Oh no, that's not bad to you. But when someone states actual facts of events and actions the like, it's obviously ridiculously hateful according to you. Lol, you're a real comedian, man  I actually consistently said that both Israelis and Palestinians were guilty of wrongdoings during the course of the conflicts. And I'm done trying to engage you because it's painfully obvious to everyone that you have no interest in actually reading other people's responses. Take some of your own advice, please. Lol if you were doing that, you wouldn't be crying "anti-semitism" every single post. You would rather be a lot more objective and thoughtful, rather than coming across like a zionist fanatic. If I didn't read your comments, how did I dismantle them? It's painfully obvious that you are incorrect, in yet another claim. You just shot yourself in the foot, mate. Gotta be more careful about that sort of thing. At least in this post, you aren't crying how everyone hates Jews lol, so I'll give you that for maturing a bit. I think you would consider it immature and ridiculous if people condemning Palestinian actions were being called terribly Arabophobic / Islamophobic, so it's best you not do it regarding Israel.
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