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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
April 10 2015 23:30 GMT
#12161
holy fuck, the amount of unwarranted smug, you can provide, is off the charts.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-10 23:37:01
April 10 2015 23:35 GMT
#12162
The amount of unwarranted knee-jerk platitudes you can spout hockey-sticked off the charts pages ago. What does it even mean to be "desperate"? What did Dalguno mean by it? Do you now know, or have you ever known anyone who was "desperate"? Would they have been a good lay in that state?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
April 10 2015 23:40 GMT
#12163
Ok this thread is a pretty cool thread, but can we stop that disscussion before it derails even more?

Is she desperate? who the fuck cares, she may be, she may be not, we'll never know, just leave it at that
WriterTeamLiquid Staff writer since 2014 @Mortal_Phantom
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
April 10 2015 23:47 GMT
#12164
I don't know. I think we should delve really deeply into desperation vis-à-vis the dating scene. It could be the key that unlocks everything.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
April 10 2015 23:52 GMT
#12165
"she is desperate because she has dating criteria i do not share" is bullshit, and you getting called out on it, is not knee jerk.

Do you now know, or have you ever known anyone who was "desperate"? Would they have been a good lay in that state?

to the first question: i can not know.
to the second: i can conceive of a situation where a person i would consider desperate would be a good lay in said situation, as there might be a certain kick to the inequality in power.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
April 10 2015 23:57 GMT
#12166
I think it is time both of you walked away from that discussion.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
April 11 2015 00:15 GMT
#12167
Why? What's wrong with some spirited discussion?

@ puerk
You didn't define what it means to be "desperate." I'm starting to wonder whether you even believe in "desperate." Maybe you are like the atheist who says whether or not certain people are holy.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
April 11 2015 01:50 GMT
#12168
So a little bit of an update may be in order after we talked a bit more.

1.) She now knows the age difference, and she said it doesn't matter to her, "maturity matters."
2.) She's not looking for sex so much as she is a relationship.
3.) She's got her life very well put together. She's got a solid job as a realtor, is about to graduate college, does triathalons and stuff like that. Pretty impressive really.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
April 11 2015 02:27 GMT
#12169
On April 11 2015 10:50 Dalguno wrote:
So a little bit of an update may be in order after we talked a bit more.

1.) She now knows the age difference, and she said it doesn't matter to her, "maturity matters."
2.) She's not looking for sex so much as she is a relationship.
3.) She's got her life very well put together. She's got a solid job as a realtor, is about to graduate college, does triathalons and stuff like that. Pretty impressive really.


So you are going on a date with a girl on a relationship that doesn't want sex?
waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
April 11 2015 02:43 GMT
#12170
On April 11 2015 11:27 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2015 10:50 Dalguno wrote:
So a little bit of an update may be in order after we talked a bit more.

1.) She now knows the age difference, and she said it doesn't matter to her, "maturity matters."
2.) She's not looking for sex so much as she is a relationship.
3.) She's got her life very well put together. She's got a solid job as a realtor, is about to graduate college, does triathalons and stuff like that. Pretty impressive really.


So you are going on a date with a girl on a relationship that doesn't want sex?


I guess he means "She is more looking for a relationship rather than just casual sex". Sounds good mate
RIP "The big travis CS degree thread", taken from us too soon | Honourable forum princess, defended by Rebs-approved white knights
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
April 11 2015 08:08 GMT
#12171
Pretty much every girl says that. Though at that age, she might be sincere.
excitedBear
Profile Joined March 2015
Austria120 Posts
April 11 2015 09:02 GMT
#12172
I have a problem:
I basically never ask out girls because I only like supermodels with a PhD in physics.
What can I do?
lohdon
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
170 Posts
April 11 2015 10:24 GMT
#12173
Ask out a Supermodel with a PhD in physics.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
April 11 2015 11:53 GMT
#12174
Are you yourself a supermodel with a PhD in physics?
excitedBear
Profile Joined March 2015
Austria120 Posts
April 11 2015 12:04 GMT
#12175
I use "supermodel" as another word for "above average looks"
And "PhD in physics" as another word for "above average intelligence".

I do have a PhD but not in physics and I do have better looks than most.
This makes it ridiculously hard to find a fitting mate for me.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
April 11 2015 13:18 GMT
#12176
If that is the case then it should be easy to look around your social circles and find a "fitting mate".
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-11 14:28:22
April 11 2015 14:21 GMT
#12177
On April 11 2015 21:04 excitedBear wrote:
I use "supermodel" as another word for "above average looks"
And "PhD in physics" as another word for "above average intelligence".

I do have a PhD but not in physics and I do have better looks than most.
This makes it ridiculously hard to find a fitting mate for me.


Even if you say above average means 1 full standard deviation above average and that there's no correlation between intelligence and attractiveness, that still leaves you with 2.5% of the female population. Of course, that assumes random selection. If you go somewhere like a college you want to find a much higher percentage of both.

My question is then how many of these attractive girls are you actually talking to?
excitedBear
Profile Joined March 2015
Austria120 Posts
April 11 2015 15:42 GMT
#12178
When I said "above average" I was being unnecessarily modest.
It's more like the top 2% in both intelligence and beauty.

2% x 2% = 0.04%
That means out of 2500 girls, one would be a potential match.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
April 11 2015 17:03 GMT
#12179
If you are truly as well off as you claim then seriously, it should not be an issue to meet the kind of girls you are interested in. The university where you got your PhD should be crawling with them.
lohdon
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
170 Posts
April 11 2015 17:10 GMT
#12180
On April 12 2015 00:42 excitedBear wrote:
When I said "above average" I was being unnecessarily modest.
It's more like the top 2% in both intelligence and beauty.

2% x 2% = 0.04%
That means out of 2500 girls, one would be a potential match.


Honestly if you are around girls frequently in your social circles I can't believe that there are no girls that are at least somewhat attractive to you. It's okay to have standards but to me it sounds more like you make up excuses for not being emotionally open towards the girls that are in front of you.
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