EPTOn October 08 2011 14:19 koreasilver wrote:
I cannot understand why this is such a big deal.
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I cannot understand why this is such a big deal.
He changed the way people live forever.
Steve Jobs has died after a long struggle with cancer. - P…
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
He changed the way people live forever. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66366 Posts
On October 06 2011 22:13 OpticalShot wrote: RIP to one of the greatest industry leaders of this century. Not everyone can agree to exactly where he ranks amongst the historic figures in technology, but I don't think anybody can argue against the fact that he was the number one driving force behind Apple's incredible surge in the past decade. and the consumer technology world. you have to admit, without ipod, iphone, macbook air and ipad, the competitors would have taken a few more years to step up their game. | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
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haffy
United Kingdom430 Posts
On October 08 2011 17:51 jmbthirteen wrote: He changed the way people live forever. Realistically how has he changed the world in a way that's better? Not that I dislike him, but all he's really done is made people more self conscious about their technology and sold products with slight improvements well? | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
still wondering how the newspapers would look like if bill gates died. He almost did the same things with other methods but still he revolutionized the computer to a personal computer and a product everyone can own. Would maybe been awesome to have both those guys in ONE company. Anyways I hope bill gets some deserved credit too when dies, same as Steve deserves (t)his credit right now. | ||
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windzor
Denmark1013 Posts
On October 08 2011 22:26 haffy wrote: Realistically how has he changed the world in a way that's better? Not that I dislike him, but all he's really done is made people more self conscious about their technology and sold products with slight improvements well? In a World where most people thought about getting the newest and coolest features in their software, he changed Apple to not do new things, but take old ideas and make them so normal people use them. Most stuff Apple has made is not new ideas, but older ideas, and connecting stuff together so they just work. Before Apple MS didn't have any OS to compete with. Now OS X is here and is better than Windows on usability. What MS has for them going is that people is used to Windows, so some people don't want to move away. Also before Apple made the IPhone, nobody wanted an Smartphone. They sucked. Was slow and had worst UI ever. If anyone ever tried a Windows Mobile phone before version 7 they would know. Now after the iphone, it's just in the last 2 years that competitors have phone which can compete with IPhone. And that's just because Google went into the industri. Think about how the world would have looked if the answer to Iphone was a Symbian phone... Not pretty. And i would say this, even though I hate mac products myself because they lock people into the way Apple want to do things and give no way to customize stuff. And because their laptops are kinda overpriced. But you can't disregards the impact Steve Jobs with his Apple vision after 1997 has on the IT industry. Now people don't talk about the coolest features, but about that things "Should just work". | ||
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Marcus420
Canada1923 Posts
On October 08 2011 14:11 SoleSteeler wrote: Are there a lot of Nobel prize winners? ^^ I am surprised at the reaction to Steve Jobs dying. I agree he was pretty... special. Nevertheless, I am surprised. Youre pretty blind if you cant see what hes done for the computer industry. just look up some of his accomplishments. | ||
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kota
Denmark84 Posts
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On October 08 2011 22:38 windzor wrote: In a World where most people thought about getting the newest and coolest features in their software, he changed Apple to not do new things, but take old ideas and make them so normal people use them. Most stuff Apple has made is not new ideas, but older ideas, and connecting stuff together so they just work. Before Apple MS didn't have any OS to compete with. Now OS X is here and is better than Windows on usability. What MS has for them going is that people is used to Windows, so some people don't want to move away. Also before Apple made the IPhone, nobody wanted an Smartphone. They sucked. Was slow and had worst UI ever. If anyone ever tried a Windows Mobile phone before version 7 they would know. Now after the iphone, it's just in the last 2 years that competitors have phone which can compete with IPhone. And that's just because Google went into the industri. Think about how the world would have looked if the answer to Iphone was a Symbian phone... Not pretty. And i would say this, even though I hate mac products myself because they lock people into the way Apple want to do things and give no way to customize stuff. And because their laptops are kinda overpriced. But you can't disregards the impact Steve Jobs with his Apple vision after 1997 has on the IT industry. Now people don't talk about the coolest features, but about that things "Should just work". Yes, I would add that Steve Jobs certainly made the world more interpersonal. Without iPhone, as you pointed out, we'd probably still be stuck with the so-called engineer smart phones that were a pain to use. Apple has had a huge impact in making the internet available and useable to us all the time. And in making people want to be connected to the internet all the time. That is how Steve Jobs certainly changed the world. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On October 08 2011 19:06 konadora wrote: and the consumer technology world. you have to admit, without ipod, iphone, macbook air and ipad, the competitors would have taken a few more years to step up their game. better cheaper versions of most of those things already existed, it took the rabid fanboyism of apple lovers to make it popular. he was half way between the worlds greatest salesman and a cult leader. On October 08 2011 23:03 Squeegy wrote: Yes, I would add that Steve Jobs certainly made the world more interpersonal. Without iPhone, as you pointed out, we'd probably still be stuck with the so-called engineer smart phones that were a pain to use. Apple has had a huge impact in making the internet available and useable to us all the time. And in making people want to be connected to the internet all the time. That is how Steve Jobs certainly changed the world. if they wanted to spread the usage of the internet they wouldnt price themselves out of 90% of markets. dont give apple praise for some humanistic qualities when they are clearly just another business | ||
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Mutaahh
Netherlands859 Posts
On October 08 2011 22:38 windzor wrote: In a World where most people thought about getting the newest and coolest features in their software, he changed Apple to not do new things, but take old ideas and make them so normal people use them. Most stuff Apple has made is not new ideas, but older ideas, and connecting stuff together so they just work. Before Apple MS didn't have any OS to compete with. Now OS X is here and is better than Windows on usability. What MS has for them going is that people is used to Windows, so some people don't want to move away. Also before Apple made the IPhone, nobody wanted an Smartphone. They sucked. Was slow and had worst UI ever. If anyone ever tried a Windows Mobile phone before version 7 they would know. Now after the iphone, it's just in the last 2 years that competitors have phone which can compete with IPhone. And that's just because Google went into the industri. Think about how the world would have looked if the answer to Iphone was a Symbian phone... Not pretty. And i would say this, even though I hate mac products myself because they lock people into the way Apple want to do things and give no way to customize stuff. And because their laptops are kinda overpriced. But you can't disregards the impact Steve Jobs with his Apple vision after 1997 has on the IT industry. Now people don't talk about the coolest features, but about that things "Should just work". Though we will never know how the world would have looked like without the iPhone interface... so still its a useless comment imo | ||
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Carson
Canada820 Posts
It will be interesting to see what happens now. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On October 08 2011 17:51 jmbthirteen wrote: He changed the way people live forever. I don't really see how. I had an mp3 player long before the iPod came out, and it is not as if their macbooks significantly changed how widespread laptops were distributed. The vast majority of lay men did not care about this man leading up to his death, and now that he died he's suddenly a divine, revered figure. It doesn't make any sense. It reeks of cheap sentimentality and I find it to be insulting to the actual death of this man. | ||
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brxnd0n
United States42 Posts
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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Squeegy
Finland1166 Posts
On October 08 2011 23:16 turdburgler wrote: better cheaper versions of most of those things already existed, it took the rabid fanboyism of apple lovers to make it popular. he was half way between the worlds greatest salesman and a cult leader. if they wanted to spread the usage of the internet they wouldnt price themselves out of 90% of markets. dont give apple praise for some humanistic qualities when they are clearly just another business Don't build strawmen. Of course they are just another business. But they are a particularly large business. And by being so large they have had a large effect on the markets. And it just happens that Apple's market is interpersonal computing market. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On October 08 2011 23:16 Mutaahh wrote: Though we will never know how the world would have looked like without the iPhone interface... so still its a useless comment imo I respect Steve Job for what he has done to the world and society in general but I must agree that even without iPhone, everything would stay relatively the same. Wouldn't Samsung Galaxy Tab, Blackberry and etc do the same thing? I actually like the interface without Itune better to get musics, just drag and drop. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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