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This has actually gotten me thinking, a deserted biology lab block is actually a very darn good place to hole up, especially if you know what the hell you're doing there.
1) Half of the things in the fridge/freezer/coldroom are nutritious, sure they don't taste good, but you'll be the best fed survivor around.
2) Depending on what people study there, you have access to a wide range of deadly toxins (poisons actually make fantastic research tools). Might be able to use them on zombies, if not, they can be a painless way out.
3) You have onsite water purification and sterilization facilities. You might even have onsite backup generators.
4) If you've got half a clue about what you're doing, understanding the zombie apocalypse will probably give you a better chance. Access to lab animals like rabbits might even allow you to develop vaccines. Granted, the loss of the internet is really going to hurt.
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On September 16 2011 15:30 NeoLearner wrote:Live here: ![[image loading]](http://c.cslacker.com/5327l.jpg) Survive.
Im so sorry but it just wont work
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On September 16 2011 16:48 decafchicken wrote:SUP ZOMBIES? gg. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sGhAm.jpg) (this is 1/4 of the gun safe.)
when the zombie apocalypse occurs i will PM you then come to find you to survive xD screw my plan those guns will last a while
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On September 16 2011 16:48 hummingbird23 wrote: This has actually gotten me thinking, a deserted biology lab block is actually a very darn good place to hole up, especially if you know what the hell you're doing there.
1) Half of the things in the fridge/freezer/coldroom are nutritious, sure they don't taste good, but you'll be the best fed survivor around.
2) Depending on what people study there, you have access to a wide range of deadly toxins (poisons actually make fantastic research tools). Might be able to use them on zombies, if not, they can be a painless way out.
3) You have onsite water purification and sterilization facilities. You might even have onsite backup generators.
4) If you've got half a clue about what you're doing, understanding the zombie apocalypse will probably give you a better chance. Access to lab animals like rabbits might even allow you to develop vaccines. that reminds me of I AM Legend, where he has his lab and studies them, very interesting thought
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probe definatly wins the threat! got a spot on there for me too?
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On September 16 2011 16:48 decafchicken wrote:SUP ZOMBIES? gg. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/sGhAm.jpg) (this is 1/4 of the gun safe.)
Lol I guess zombies would probably have a bigger chance of succeeding in europe
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On September 16 2011 16:49 MadeinSeptember wrote:Im so sorry but it just wont work ![[image loading]](http://www.daniellight.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sMs6L-e1303925877603.jpg) Balloons only go up, wind direction determines sideways motion. Means I/we only have to defend one side of the building from slow-moving incoming zombies? No sweat.
![[image loading]](http://www.slashdotdash.net/images/slingshot.png)
Pretty much infinite ammo on that one.
EDIT: Biggest threat would probably be zombies eating the support beams. Or all the chinese zombies jumping at the same time, causing a massive earthquake. Or zombie pigeons. Can't win from zombie pigeons, they'll shit all over my fortress.
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On September 16 2011 16:53 NeoLearner wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 16:49 MadeinSeptember wrote:On September 16 2011 15:30 NeoLearner wrote:Live here: ![[image loading]](http://c.cslacker.com/5327l.jpg) Survive. Im so sorry but it just wont work ![[image loading]](http://www.daniellight.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sMs6L-e1303925877603.jpg) Balloons only go up, wind direction determines sideways motion. Means I/we only have to defend one side of the building from slow-moving incoming zombies? No sweat. ![[image loading]](http://www.slashdotdash.net/images/slingshot.png) Pretty much infinite ammo on that one. EDIT: Biggest threat would probably be zombies eating the support beams. Or all the chinese zombies jumping at the same time, causing a massive earthquake. Or zombie pigeons. Can't win from zombie pigeons, they'll shit all over my fortress.
You forgot about the propeller!
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On September 16 2011 16:56 Travin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 16:53 NeoLearner wrote:On September 16 2011 16:49 MadeinSeptember wrote:On September 16 2011 15:30 NeoLearner wrote:Live here: ![[image loading]](http://c.cslacker.com/5327l.jpg) Survive. Im so sorry but it just wont work ![[image loading]](http://www.daniellight.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/sMs6L-e1303925877603.jpg) Balloons only go up, wind direction determines sideways motion. Means I/we only have to defend one side of the building from slow-moving incoming zombies? No sweat. ![[image loading]](http://www.slashdotdash.net/images/slingshot.png) Pretty much infinite ammo on that one. EDIT: Biggest threat would probably be zombies eating the support beams. Or all the chinese zombies jumping at the same time, causing a massive earthquake. Or zombie pigeons. Can't win from zombie pigeons, they'll shit all over my fortress. You forgot about the propeller!
he also forgot about sleep, there's still wind at night -_-
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Imguploader doesn't work.
![[image loading]](http://www.dicts.info/img/ud/fist.jpg) I'm not locked in here with you... YOU'RE LOCKED IN HERE WITH ME!
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On September 16 2011 16:19 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 14:57 aax5 wrote: If this does happen, I plan on waiting a few days while the zombies all die of thirst and hunger Virtually every zombie guide pretty much encourages this. In case of a zombie outbreak your best hope of survival is barricading yourself into your home. Immediately fill your bath tub with water as your electricity and water will go out eventually. Filling your bath tub ensures an ample supply of drinking water. Ration out whatever food you have available as you might need to stay barricaded for several days. Empty out your refrigerator and freezer. Save what food you can, dispose of food that will rot. I know this and I always had my issues with the logic. In my opinion this only applies to limited outbreaks, where there is hope that armed forces can contain the outbreak eventually. But even then your chance of survival in a city are ridiculously slim. Most likely your will starv in a quarantained city or be straight up incinerated as they clear the place with napalm. It is certainly not a strategy for the the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE. Apocalypse to me implies that most of humanity will turn Z, all order breaks down, and no short or mid term hope of taking back the planet.
In that case, in an urban scenario it appears to be the worst decision to lock yourself up and wait until every last human in the city has turned Z. Best case they will not notice you and you will die on your desperate attempt to break out. Worst case they will notice you and you will starv to death while hundreds of wailing moaners scratch in your front door.
Cities are the number one death trap in World War Z. I am convinced your best chance to survive is get the hell outta there as fast as you can once the breakout has begun.
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That depends zatic. If we're thinking of a scenario where the zombies get weak from a lack of food. Or are like hellspawns that keep wandering arround forever. If it's the second there's not much use of staying home. However if they simply die off after a week you can come out and enjoy your lonely planet.
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That would be pretty boring. And besides I don't know of any Zombie lore where they just starv and die (28 days later doesn't count since they are not Zombies but just really angry humans).
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Hours and hours of theorycrafting and preparing on best zombie site on world (yes, zombie squad) Long term financial plan that can now start going on because i started working, in upgrading my weekend house to a powerfull bastion of protection! With alot of supplies, upper room on adict, and sub ground room, It includes one or two special vehciles and alot of other stuffs, but it will take quite some time and $.
P.S. I like later when im back home from work, most kick ass anti zombie fortress on cliff, looks like old japanese temple, cant find it on internet atm :/
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The biggest asset you can have in this situation is people. Especially in the case of having to fight for materials. 1 armed guy makes a lot less people give up on supplies compared to 15.
Which is great because I have damn resourceful famliy/friends and the weapons between our families is sufficient to gather supplies and then fortify a place or two if necessary. Even assuming 75% of them get turned into brain cravers there would be plenty of (useful) manpower.
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+ Show Spoiler +On September 16 2011 17:25 zatic wrote:Show nested quote +On September 16 2011 16:19 overt wrote:On September 16 2011 14:57 aax5 wrote: If this does happen, I plan on waiting a few days while the zombies all die of thirst and hunger Virtually every zombie guide pretty much encourages this. In case of a zombie outbreak your best hope of survival is barricading yourself into your home. Immediately fill your bath tub with water as your electricity and water will go out eventually. Filling your bath tub ensures an ample supply of drinking water. Ration out whatever food you have available as you might need to stay barricaded for several days. Empty out your refrigerator and freezer. Save what food you can, dispose of food that will rot. I know this and I always had my issues with the logic. In my opinion this only applies to limited outbreaks, where there is hope that armed forces can contain the outbreak eventually. But even then your chance of survival in a city are ridiculously slim. Most likely your will starv in a quarantained city or be straight up incinerated as they clear the place with napalm. It is certainly not a strategy for the the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE. Apocalypse to me implies that most of humanity will turn Z, all order breaks down, and no short or mid term hope of taking back the planet. In that case, in an urban scenario it appears to be the worst decision to lock yourself up and wait until every last human in the city has turned Z. Best case they will not notice you and you will die on your desperate attempt to break out. Worst case they will notice you and you will starv to death while hundreds of wailing moaners scratch in your front door. Cities are the number one death trap in World War Z. I am convinced your best chance to survive is get the hell outta there as fast as you can once the breakout has begun.
I live in the suburbs so I think it's probably still the best idea. But I would agree that if you're in a city you need to gtfo and go somewhere more rural. I have an uncle who's like an hour and a half away and lives in a very rural area. Has several guns and supplies. If I thought the high way was able to be traveled upon I think I'd go stay with him and hold up there.
Holding up in a home is best idea imo. Grocery stores or other such places are usually bad ideas and I wouldn't want to go to government designated safe zones as they'd probably just turn into concentration camps that would get over run with zombies pretty fast imo.
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These babies!
![[image loading]](http://www.barringtons-swords.co.uk/training_weapons_files/banded%20nunchuks.jpg)
And this mightly beast, to aid me!
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Info about army-sized battle tactics can be found in the book WWZ (WORLD WAR Z - An Oral History of the Zombie War by Max Brooks) which happens to be the holy bible of zombie warfare and also happens to be filmed with Brad Pit starring in it. Release is somewhere next year afaik.
Some quotes from the book:
+ Show Spoiler +Around 1300 hours, die radios started squawking, it was the K-handlers whose dogs had made contact. We locked and loaded and took our place on the firing line. That was the centerpiece of our whole new battle doctrine, back into the past like everything else. We massed in a straight line, two ranks: one active, one reserve. The reserve was so when anyone in the front rank needed a weapon recharge, their fire wouldn't be missed on the line. Theoretically, with everyone either firing or reloading, we could keep Zack falling as long as the ammo held out. We could hear the barking, the Ks were bringing them in. We started seeing Gs on the horizon, hundreds.
+ Show Spoiler +We switched over to our Primary Enticement Mechanism. Every army had one by now. The Brits would use bagpipes, the Chinese used bugles, the Sou'fricans used to smack their rifles with their assegais and belt out these Zulu war chants. For us, it was hard-core Iron Maiden. Now, personally, I've never been a metal fan. Straight classic rock's my thing, and Hendrix's "Driving South" is about as heavy as I get. But I had to admit, standing there in that desert wind, with "The Trooper" thumping in my chest, I got it. The PEM wasn't really for Zack's benefit. It was to psych us up, take away some of Zack's mojo, you know, "take the piss out," as the Brits say. Right about the time Dickinson was belting "As you plunge into a certain death" I was pumped, SIR charged and ready, eyes fixed on this growing, closing horde. I was, like, "Cmon, Zack, let's fuckin' do this!" Just before they reached the front range marker, the music began to fade. The squad leaders shouted, "Front rank, ready!" and die first line knelt. Then came the order to "take aim!" and then, as we all held our breath, as the music clicked off, we heard "FIRE!"
+ Show Spoiler +The front rank just rippled, cracking like a SAW on full auto and dropping every G that crossed the first markers. We had strict orders, only the ones crossing the line. Wait for the others. We'd trained this way for months. By now it was pure instinct. Sister Montoya raised her weapon above her head, the signal for an empty mag. We switched positions, I flipped off my safety, and sighted my first target.
+ Show Spoiler +On the range we practiced with metronomes, all the time the instructors saying "they ain't in no hurry, why are you?" It was a way of keeping calm, pacing yourself. We had to be as slow and robotic as them. "Out G the G," they used to say.
+ Show Spoiler +Yeah, the Recharge Teams, this special reserve unit char did nothing hue make sure we never ran dry. You only had a certain number of clips on you and it would take a lot more time to reload each individual clip. The Sandlers ran up and down the line collecting empty clips, recharging them from crated ammo, and then passing them out to anyone who signaled.
+ Show Spoiler +One G sees you, comes after you, and moans. A click away, another G hears that moan, comes after it, and moans himself, then another one anodier click away, then another. Dude, if the area's thick enough, if the chain's unbroken, who knows how far you can pull them in from. And we're just talking one after the other here. Try ten every click, a hundred, a thousand. They starred piling up, forming this artificial palisade at the first range marker, this ridge of corpses that got higher and higher each minute. We were actually building an undead fortification, creating a situation where all we had to do was pop every head that popped over the top. The brass had planned for this. They had a periscope tower thingy that let officers see right over the wall. They also had realtime downlinks from satellites and recon drones, although we, the grunts, had no idea what they were seeing. Land Warrior was gone for now so all we had to do was concentrate on what was in front of our faces. We started getting contacts from all sides, either coming around the wall or else being drawn in from our flanks and even rear. Again, the brass was waiting for this and ordered us to form an RS. A Reinforced Square. Or a "Raj-Singh," I guess after the guy who reinvented it. We formed a tight square, still two ranks, with our vehicles and whatnot in the center. That was a dangerous gamble, cutting us off like that. I mean, yeah, it didn't work that first time in India only 'cause the ammo ran out. But there was no guarantee it wouldn't happen again to us. What if the brass had goofed, hadn't packed enough rounds or underestimated how strong Zack would be that day* It could have been Yonkers all over again; worse, because no one would be getting out of there alive. But you did have enough ammunition. More than enough. The vehicles were packed to their roofs. We had water. we had replacements. If you needed a fiver, you just raised your weapon and one of the Sandlers would jump in and take our place on the firing o line.
+ Show Spoiler +No one would ever volunteer for a fiver, but they had these KO teams, combat shrinks who were observing everyone's performance. They'd been with us since our early days on the range, knew us each by name and face, and knew, don't ask me how, when the stress of battle was starting to de-grade our performance. We didn't know, I certainly didn't. There were a couple times I'd miss a shot or maybe take a half second instead of a full. Then suddenly I'd get this tap on my shoulder and I knew I was out of it for five. It really worked. Before I knew it, I was back on the line, bladder empty, stomach quiet, a few less kinks and muscle cramps. It made a world of difference, and anyone who thinks we could have lasted without it should try hitting a moving bull's-eye every second for fifteen hours. What about at night? We used searchlights from the vehicles, powerful, red-coated beams so it didn't mess with your night vision. The only creepy thing about night fighting, other than the redness from the lights, is the glow a round makes when it enters the head. That's why we called them "Cherry PIES," because if the bullet's chemcomp wasn't mixed right, it would burn so bright it made their eyes glow red. That was a cure for constipation, especially later on, on nights when you pulled guard duty, and one would come at you out of the dark. Those glowing red eyes, frozen in time the second before it falls.
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enough stock of zombie masks and cosplay materials stealthy>other tactics if you can do it right
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This is my revised Zombie plan from last year with a few but considerable improvements.
The following is for my area (central europe). Priorities would be different for other areas of the world though. Note I only touch on things that seem to not come naturally to people. For example if you have things like antibiotics, matches, etc at home of course take them with you as well even though I don’t mention them. Think of a camping trip.
1. Stay away from everywhere unprepared people would go. This means no supermarkets, malls, home depot, police stations, hospitals etc. This is the most important rule to survival. Stay away from people, especially unprepared people.
2. Secure water. If you are at home fill up bottles with tab water. DO NOT go to the supermarket.
3. Secure food. This should be easier than most people think. You don't need a lot to survive, even your scrappy student household should have enough to last you a week. DO NOT go to the supermarket. Don’t take canned food. Too much water, too heavy. Go for candy bars and chocolate.
Now these are the most important things you need to think about at first. From now on it's all about executing plan Z: Make for the coast. In my case that would be the Mediterranean. If you can, get a map for all sections of the way. If internet is still on print out Google directions with several alternative routes. Do not get lost surfing TL in threads like this one which will be popping up in mass: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=91981 Say GL HF to everyone and be outta there.
Now, depending on where you are next comes the most difficult part: Getting out of the city and securing a vehicle. There is not much you can plan for unfortunately, but there are some general ideas to follow.
Weapons: Firearms are the best choice depending on the kind and if you know how to use them. If you live in a mostly gun free city like me unfortunately you won’t have any, but if you do good for you. Contrary to popular belief guns are really a low priority though on the survival plan, and are mostly needed against other survivors, much less against Zombies. Unless you know how to (expertly) use them, don’t bother with fancy stuff like knives or swords. You’ll get you sword stuck in the head of the 2nd zombie and be overwhelmed. Instead go for some sort of club you can wield well. Baseball bat is excellent. I have a door mountable pull-up bar that does the job well. You are not aiming to kill every Zombie, disabling them enough that you can get away is all you need. Immune to pain or not - a smashed knee doesn't carry well.
Cardio: Zombieland got it right. This is sooo important. If you can’t run don’t even bother. You are not going to make it. Since you are still in the city, you don’t need to run faster than the zombies. You just need to run faster than the fatties. This is the most important thing for immediate survival, and should help you a long way on your way out.
Now in my case I live pretty close to the woods, and I have a good mountain bike at home - the optimal way to escape the city. Expect all the major exit routes to be blocked, don’t even go there – remember, stay away from stupid people. Do not get inside of a car while you are inside of the city. That is close to suicide. + Show Spoiler [More generic options] + You want to take a route through a wealthy suburb. Once you are there you are usually golden. Less people, more provisions. If it’s a workday chances are they are not even there. Now it’s time to get a car. You’ll probably have to break into one of the houses and force the wife / kids that are there to hand over the keys to their SUV. Remember, time is key here, don’t fool around. In terms of SUV the bigger the better.
My bike can take me a 100km the first day if that is necessary. However most likely it won't. My nearest target will be a business park outside of the city. The exact timings depend on how severe the outbreak is and if its a workday. On a workday I will go to biggest car repair in the park. I have noted where they put the keys of finished vehicles the last time I was there, and since I live in a rather wealthy area there is plenty of big SUVs in the car shop at all rimes. Another invaluable plus is that you might find spare gas canisters. So, time to get the keys. There is only so much you can plan for. Best case everyone has heard about the infection and is rushing home or watching the TV. Grab one of those keys (or all of them) and pick a car, the bigger the better. Again this car is there to carry you out of populated areas. You’ll need ramming ability. Try to get one with a diesel engine, you can fill those up with heating oil from abandoned homes or roadside truck wrecks. Steal provisions as well if you can – again water over food, you can starve for a couple of days and still be OK. Here is where you can go for canned food since you are not on foot anymore (hopefully). Don't forget to take the bike with you.
In case you survived getting out of the city: Stay away from major highways – again Rule No 1. Take the smaller overland roads through small towns. Small towns are both good and bad news because they can have provisions, but they can also have nasty survivors who might want to steal your car. Same goes for farms – be extra careful around those.
Again the objective is to make for the coast. In my case it would be a 7 hour drive under normal conditions. Obviously I can’t go to sleep anywhere so soon after the infection so I would have to make it in one go no matter what. Your typical SUV needs one refill for that distance, which should be possible at some point. If not take over a vehicle from already eaten people.
Once I am in France I’d feel much better and actually risk the highway since there are no cars in France (half serious). Say I make it to the coast.
I would pick one of the very small coastal towns due to rule no1, and scout out the yacht marina (here is where the bike comes in handy again). The objective now is to obtain a sailing yacht you can operate by yourself (anyone serious about zombie apocalypse knows how to sail obv.). There are several ways to do this. The main problem is that taking off will take a while and attract zombies. So what you can do is take any spare gas you still have and spill it all over the pier behind you just in case. If you can’t find a boat with keys you can try to take off by using the motor of one of the dinghies, although that will take a while as well. Burn the bridge behind you once the zombies come. It’s all in now.
If you managed to get out of the bay you have made it. Say hello to your new awesome life as a zombieland pirate. You can plunder each of the myriad of yacht marinas along the coast, go fishing for the soon plentiful again fishes, conquer islands and some day find a lost pretty survivor mate on a raft and then you can live happily and repopulate the planet.
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