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So what's the list of completly broken heroes so far? Aside from faceroller reality benders.
1. Flash as the speed of force 2. Shiny Superman Prime 3. Dr Manhatten (dont give me the missile crap, that he might not be able to stop, at the beginning of the Watchmen movie) 4. Thor 5. Silver surfer?
I wont put Hulk in there because limitless strength is useless without some sort of cosmic power, i mean the rest just go out in the space and rain shit down on him or trap him in some kind of bullshit
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You should put Hulk in there. If I had a list, it would go 1-Thor 2-Hulk 3-Superman
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I have always disliked finding the most powerful characters, they are pretty much zero interesting.
1.Favourite superguy would be itachi from naruto but i dont think he counts as superhero. Next on the line would be kingpin, a little bit more like a superhero since he comes from marvel comics but unfortunately he is a supervillain and not sure if that counts either. Finally, the one who has to be accepted as superhero would be the ever so kind Professor X that actually tries to build a better world instead of destroying evil.
2.Im going to say Dr. Strange on the strongest superhero, since i have some interest in fantasy magic(and this guy seems to be too strong for the comics sake).
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DBZ is way too inconsistent and full of plot holes to be taken seriously. In theory someone like SSJ3 Goku should be able to destroy the earth with his energy without much effort and like Tempest said if they were strong enough to destroy Earth in the Saiyan saga it's absurd that the Spirit Bomb didn't destroy namek or that super kamehamehas don't destroy earth during the Cell Saga or whatever.
DBZ is pretty much for fun. I think comics are approached with a lot more seriousness.
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btw the coolest hero character is definitely Alucard from Hellsing
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Surely its Wolverine? or Magneto?
XMen win ?
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Favorite Superhero: Enjoyed one or another most at one time or another but right now its Batman Strongest Superhero: Goku from DBZ
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On September 12 2011 18:12 Confuse wrote: Favorite Superhero: Enjoyed one or another most at one time or another but right now its Batman Strongest Superhero: Goku from DBGT stop the anime nerd in me cant stand it goku is not the strongest character in dbz, gohan is. only in the technically non-canon DBGT is he the strongest
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On September 12 2011 16:19 Geo.Rion wrote: So what's the list of completly broken heroes so far? Aside from faceroller reality benders.
1. Flash as the speed of force 2. Shiny Superman Prime 3. Dr Manhatten (dont give me the missile crap, that he might not be able to stop, at the beginning of the Watchmen movie) 4. Thor 5. Silver surfer?
I wont put Hulk in there because limitless strength is useless without some sort of cosmic power, i mean the rest just go out in the space and rain shit down on him or trap him in some kind of bullshit
I agree with Flash 100% as the strongest as him alone without any tools and befitting the category of a superhero.
Just a question though, what Thor are we pertaining to? I mean I'm not bashing the hero per se just that the Thor in the movie is the Thor, son of Odin. But isn't it in the comics that Thor is actually a mortal who was deemed worthy by the hammer to become Thor. I use mortal because Beta Ray Bill managed to use the hammer effectively becoming the entity known as Thor as there is only one Mjolnir per universe.
Anyway, using that premise of the hammer granting the powers of Thor to the mortal, if the hammer were to be separated from Thor for more than a minute, he would revert to his mortal form would he not? (Infinity Wars/Gauntlet battle with Thanos).
I'm just clarifying for everyone's knowledge and enlightenment. The reason why I bring this up is, if what I said is what defines Thor, then effectively that negates his usefulness without his hammer would it not? Kind of like Silver Surfer without his board.
Please clarify also, would both be able to fly (theoretically at their maximum speed) without their respective items?
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On September 12 2011 18:16 17Sphynx17 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 16:19 Geo.Rion wrote: So what's the list of completly broken heroes so far? Aside from faceroller reality benders.
1. Flash as the speed of force 2. Shiny Superman Prime 3. Dr Manhatten (dont give me the missile crap, that he might not be able to stop, at the beginning of the Watchmen movie) 4. Thor 5. Silver surfer?
I wont put Hulk in there because limitless strength is useless without some sort of cosmic power, i mean the rest just go out in the space and rain shit down on him or trap him in some kind of bullshit I agree with Flash 100% as the strongest as him alone without any tools and befitting the category of a superhero. Just a question though, what Thor are we pertaining to? I mean I'm not bashing the hero per se just that the Thor in the movie is the Thor, son of Odin. But isn't it in the comics that Thor is actually a mortal who was deemed worthy by the hammer to become Thor. I use mortal because Beta Ray Bill managed to use the hammer effectively becoming the entity known as Thor as there is only one Mjolnir per universe. Anyway, using that premise of the hammer granting the powers of Thor to the mortal, if the hammer were to be separated from Thor for more than a minute, he would revert to his mortal form would he not? (Infinity Wars/Gauntlet battle with Thanos). I'm just clarifying for everyone's knowledge and enlightenment. The reason why I bring this up is, if what I said is what defines Thor, then effectively that negates his usefulness without his hammer would it not? Kind of like Silver Surfer without his board. Please clarify also, would both be able to fly (theoretically at their maximum speed) without their respective items? Thor was always a God - he was placed into the body of Donald Blake by Odin, but that's not his original form and the Blake persona has been stripped from Thor in the past. I'm not sure what his current status is, but he has many times been able to remain Thor without his hammer. Regarding the Silver Surfer, it's only the movie version who needs his board for his powers, and the movies are non-canon. The Silver Surfer from the comics certainly does not need his board for his power, and would destroy Flash without breaking a sweat.
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On September 10 2011 05:06 Blahbleh wrote: Again this comes back to which superman you are referring to. Superman Prime can time travel as well.. and no long has any weaknesses.
Superman Prime is the second the most powerful being that has ever existed in the DC multiverse only surpasses by The Presence. He has acquired countless powers and abilities from his travels and lineage that allow him to do almost anything he wishes, which range from teleportation to the manipulation of magic and warping reality. He can manipulate time, space, matter, and bend reality on almost any scale he wishes. Creation - Superman Prime is able to create lifeforms out of nothing.
Resurrection - Superman Prime can resurrect the dead.
Omniscience - Superman Prime has possibly learned everything in his time in the sun.
Omnipotence - Superman prime has near limitless abilties as far as we can see.
Omnipresent - Superman Prime can be any where at any time.
All Kryptonian powers under a Yellow Sun. All of his Kryptonian powers are enhanced.
Godlike Super strength - His strength is limitless, he is capable of lifting the Omniverse.
Godlike Super speed - His speed is incomprehensible to even the abstract beings.
Godlike Super Senses
Godlike Xray vision - He can see through any solid object, with no exceptions.
Godlike Heat vision - A million times hotter than the center of the sun.
Godlike Super Stamina/Endurance - Capable of surviving the end of the Multiverse.
Godlike Invulnerability - Capable of surviving the end of the Multiverse.
Godlike Super Hearing - Cosmic Awareness.
Immortality - Superman Prime, will live until the end of Reality.
OK - This is just pure moronism, because he isn't a superhero - he is an actual god. By god I mean an omni-fucking-everything entity, capable of fucking everything anytime without a possibility to end its existence. That, my dear sir, is a textbook definition of a god, which would sound like: GOD - "An Absolute Entity, Unlimited In Terms Of Existence And Activities". So, following that, we should exclude guys such us:
On September 12 2011 18:16 17Sphynx17 wrote: 1. Flash as the speed of force 2. Shiny Superman Prime 3. Dr Manhatten (dont give me the missile crap, that he might not be able to stop, at the beginning of the Watchmen movie) 4. Thor 5. Silver surfer?
(Why Thor though?)
The first page of this thread should be updated with limitations, such as godlike existence and reality benders, because in terms of "which is better", gods and reality shapers/time travelers will always have unfair advantage. You know, arguments like strength of Hulk/the Thing or even speed of Flash doesn't matter, because Scarlet witch or molecule man would just erase them from reality/existence. BAM. Problem solved.
So, having said that - My favourite is Spider-man, the strongest would still be flash/quicksilver (depending on dc/marvel), because speed pretty much tops everything else.
Heh, I love those "who would win" threads, because aside form gods, I could argue that every hero/villain can be defeated by another hero/villain depending on situation
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Mr. Furious is the strongest superhero. He can throw a bus, well, push a bus, and the engine was on so the driver sort of helped.
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I'd say The Hulk, nothing can beat that awesome green flesh
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On September 12 2011 19:37 kudlaty_true wrote:Show nested quote +On September 10 2011 05:06 Blahbleh wrote: Again this comes back to which superman you are referring to. Superman Prime can time travel as well.. and no long has any weaknesses.
Superman Prime is the second the most powerful being that has ever existed in the DC multiverse only surpasses by The Presence. He has acquired countless powers and abilities from his travels and lineage that allow him to do almost anything he wishes, which range from teleportation to the manipulation of magic and warping reality. He can manipulate time, space, matter, and bend reality on almost any scale he wishes. Creation - Superman Prime is able to create lifeforms out of nothing.
Resurrection - Superman Prime can resurrect the dead.
Omniscience - Superman Prime has possibly learned everything in his time in the sun.
Omnipotence - Superman prime has near limitless abilties as far as we can see.
Omnipresent - Superman Prime can be any where at any time.
All Kryptonian powers under a Yellow Sun. All of his Kryptonian powers are enhanced.
Godlike Super strength - His strength is limitless, he is capable of lifting the Omniverse.
Godlike Super speed - His speed is incomprehensible to even the abstract beings.
Godlike Super Senses
Godlike Xray vision - He can see through any solid object, with no exceptions.
Godlike Heat vision - A million times hotter than the center of the sun.
Godlike Super Stamina/Endurance - Capable of surviving the end of the Multiverse.
Godlike Invulnerability - Capable of surviving the end of the Multiverse.
Godlike Super Hearing - Cosmic Awareness.
Immortality - Superman Prime, will live until the end of Reality. OK - This is just pure moronism, because he isn't a superhero - he is an actual god. By god I mean an omni-fucking-everything entity, capable of fucking everything anytime without a possibility to end its existence. That, my dear sir, is a textbook definition of a god, which would sound like: GOD - "An Absolute Entity, Unlimited In Terms Of Existence And Activities". So, following that, we should exclude guys such us: Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 18:16 17Sphynx17 wrote: 1. Flash as the speed of force 2. Shiny Superman Prime 3. Dr Manhatten (dont give me the missile crap, that he might not be able to stop, at the beginning of the Watchmen movie) 4. Thor 5. Silver surfer? (Why Thor though?) The first page of this thread should be updated with limitations, such as godlike existence and reality benders, because in terms of "which is better", gods and reality shapers/time travelers will always have unfair advantage. You know, arguments like strength of Hulk/the Thing or even speed of Flash doesn't matter, because Scarlet witch or molecule man would just erase them from reality/existence. BAM. Problem solved. So, having said that - My favourite is Spider-man, the strongest would still be flash/quicksilver (depending on dc/marvel), because speed pretty much tops everything else. Heh, I love those "who would win" threads, because aside form gods, I could argue that every hero/villain can be defeated by another hero/villain depending on situation How would Flash defeat the Silver Surfer then, considering both are fast enough to travel in time and the Silver Surfer is more powerful in every other department?
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On September 12 2011 19:52 kwizach wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2011 19:37 kudlaty_true wrote:On September 10 2011 05:06 Blahbleh wrote: Again this comes back to which superman you are referring to. Superman Prime can time travel as well.. and no long has any weaknesses.
Superman Prime is the second the most powerful being that has ever existed in the DC multiverse only surpasses by The Presence. He has acquired countless powers and abilities from his travels and lineage that allow him to do almost anything he wishes, which range from teleportation to the manipulation of magic and warping reality. He can manipulate time, space, matter, and bend reality on almost any scale he wishes. Creation - Superman Prime is able to create lifeforms out of nothing.
Resurrection - Superman Prime can resurrect the dead.
Omniscience - Superman Prime has possibly learned everything in his time in the sun.
Omnipotence - Superman prime has near limitless abilties as far as we can see.
Omnipresent - Superman Prime can be any where at any time.
All Kryptonian powers under a Yellow Sun. All of his Kryptonian powers are enhanced.
Godlike Super strength - His strength is limitless, he is capable of lifting the Omniverse.
Godlike Super speed - His speed is incomprehensible to even the abstract beings.
Godlike Super Senses
Godlike Xray vision - He can see through any solid object, with no exceptions.
Godlike Heat vision - A million times hotter than the center of the sun.
Godlike Super Stamina/Endurance - Capable of surviving the end of the Multiverse.
Godlike Invulnerability - Capable of surviving the end of the Multiverse.
Godlike Super Hearing - Cosmic Awareness.
Immortality - Superman Prime, will live until the end of Reality. OK - This is just pure moronism, because he isn't a superhero - he is an actual god. By god I mean an omni-fucking-everything entity, capable of fucking everything anytime without a possibility to end its existence. That, my dear sir, is a textbook definition of a god, which would sound like: GOD - "An Absolute Entity, Unlimited In Terms Of Existence And Activities". So, following that, we should exclude guys such us: On September 12 2011 18:16 17Sphynx17 wrote: 1. Flash as the speed of force 2. Shiny Superman Prime 3. Dr Manhatten (dont give me the missile crap, that he might not be able to stop, at the beginning of the Watchmen movie) 4. Thor 5. Silver surfer? (Why Thor though?) The first page of this thread should be updated with limitations, such as godlike existence and reality benders, because in terms of "which is better", gods and reality shapers/time travelers will always have unfair advantage. You know, arguments like strength of Hulk/the Thing or even speed of Flash doesn't matter, because Scarlet witch or molecule man would just erase them from reality/existence. BAM. Problem solved. So, having said that - My favourite is Spider-man, the strongest would still be flash/quicksilver (depending on dc/marvel), because speed pretty much tops everything else. Heh, I love those "who would win" threads, because aside form gods, I could argue that every hero/villain can be defeated by another hero/villain depending on situation How would Flash defeat the Silver Surfer then, considering both are fast enough to travel in time and the Silver Surfer is more powerful in every other department? I dunno, it seems like a very vague contest about who would get the first hit in, though they're both technically immortal (seeing as everytime a major Flash dies they just re-emerge from the Speed Force). I just don't think there's a reasonable metric on who does what first because, well, Silver Surfer can just at will create a black hole wherever Flash is and Flash can punch a blackhole into another universe so who knows.
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1) Who's your favorite superhero? Dunno if I can call him superhero, but Akagi is the God of Mahjong. From comics Batman. I dislike the idea of heroes have mega overpowered powers (although Batman has the monies).
2) Who do you believe to be the most powerful hero? Suzumiya Haruhi. Everyone eventually will succumb to Haruhism!
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Have you red my post? I said godlike beings are out. Silver surfer out. When I said "Flash as the speed of force" I was assuming that whoever wrote that before me was talking about some other flash than the standard DC comics one. Has the standard one travel through time at some point? (I don't read dc too much) If so, I would exclude him too and leave only quicksilver. He didn't bend time once.
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On September 12 2011 20:04 kudlaty_true wrote: Have you red my post? I said godlike beings are out. Silver surfer out. When I said "Flash as the speed of force" I was assuming that whoever wrote that before me was talking about some other flash than the standard DC comics one. Has the standard one travel through time at some point? (I don't read dc too much) If so, I would exclude him too and leave only quicksilver. He didn't bend time once.
Flash literally ran to the end of time before (to escape the Black Flash, who he became because the Black Flash was the speed force and blah blah comic book explanations are weird).
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On September 12 2011 20:04 kudlaty_true wrote: Have you red my post? I said godlike beings are out. Silver surfer out. When I said "Flash as the speed of force" I was assuming that whoever wrote that before me was talking about some other flash than the standard DC comics one. Has the standard one travel through time at some point? (I don't read dc too much) If so, I would exclude him too and leave only quicksilver. He didn't bend time once. How the hell is the Silver Surfer a godlike being? He certainly does not conform to the definition you posted.
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