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Nothingtosay
United States875 Posts
On September 08 2011 07:21 wherebugsgo wrote: Clearly someone lacks basic reading comprehension. What do you expect from the people that buy into whats being sold! Oh noes the liberal media has gotten to me! | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
Oh well it's not like anything changed over the last ten thousand years. Just that time is kinda running out to faff about. | ||
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Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On September 08 2011 07:24 Doodsmack wrote: Love the TLers who make smug i'm-smarter-than-you comments without explaining. Don't bring TL down, this happens everywhere. ): | ||
Arrian
United States889 Posts
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Lynkilen
Norway211 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 08 2011 07:20 EtherealDeath wrote: Eh? The article doesn't bemoan the "lack of civility" in Washington so far as I read, and I actually did just read the entire thing right now. What I took from the article is that Republicans are better tactically than Democrats, and he delineated some of the tactics used. Not exactly "moral" so to speak, but not illegal either so it's fair game if your opposition is going to be as stupid as the Democrats appear to be in this article. So yea... Republicans are smart bastards at getting votes, Democrats are electorally ignorant in comparison. That's how I would summarize this article. The author discusses the lack of civility as one of his points about republican tactics in the article, particularly where he's discussing the use of the filibuster. I disagree with this contention that republicans are "smarter" than democrats tactically/politically, which is why republicans are winning. The problem with democrats is that their policies are not in line with what the American people want. Take Obamacare, for example. At no point did the American people want Obamacare as it was passed, yet that's what we got. It's been an unpopular piece of legislation since its inception. We are at a point where democrats and republicans are presenting significantly different policy ideas for moving forward in this country. I'd posit to you that the American people don't like what Obama and the democrats are selling right now, which is why the polls show that they're on the ropes. On September 08 2011 07:20 EtherealDeath wrote: Most interesting was the quote of President Eisenhower. I would never expect it coming out of a Republican these days, though to be fair I am no student of how the party has shifted in the past 50 years. This quote has been making the rounds on blogs and facebooks recently, and I find its use rather disingenuous. Basically no one (other than Ron Paul and maybe a few other fringe republicans) are advocating the abolition (ie elimination) of social security, medicare, and welfare. What a lot of republicans (not all, mind you) are advocating is reform of those programs to put them on sounder fiscal footing. Of course, it's very convenient (and apparently easy) for democrats to misrepresent the "reform" of these programs as "abolition." (see Paul Ryan). | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On September 08 2011 06:39 Fleebenworth wrote: This last bit about religion is particularly interesting because I have always wondered how christianity has been transformed from a radical anti-society poverty-embracing message to the gospel of wealth and corruption. The tele-evangelists and megachurches are a joke. Don't take them seriously or consider them in any way related to real Christianity. Also...the guy was using it as a parallel, he wasn't actually commenting on the actual megachurches. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
At no point did the American people want Obamacare as it was passed, yet that's what we got. Source please? Most of the content of your posts, xDaunt, is as or even more unsubstantiated as you claim the article in the OP is. | ||
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Sega92
United States467 Posts
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vict1019
United States401 Posts
On September 08 2011 07:23 Doodsmack wrote: That is an absurdly simplistic and ignorant claim. Many many Christians would not take their religion to be supportive of wealth and corruption. The opinion of televangelists and whoever else you claim to be mending Christianity to their own ends does not define Christianity to the majority of its followers. Your statement hints at an assumption that Christians are sheep, just like the economically disadvantaged whites who the staffer assumes (emphasis on assumes) to be influenced by televangelists. Anyone with a sliver of knowledge about the religion knows that it can't be simplified into something that is corrupt. Do you feel the same way about the 9-11 hijackers and Islam? | ||
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Haemonculus
United States6980 Posts
On September 08 2011 07:44 PH wrote: The tele-evangelists and megachurches are a joke. Don't take them seriously or consider them in any way related to real Christianity. Also...the guy was using it as a parallel, he wasn't actually commenting on the actual megachurches. See it's easy to dismiss those groups as "not real" or whatnot, but you have to realize just how many people are involved in organizations like this. They may not be "real christians" in your book, but they vote, and in record numbers. | ||
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HoldenR
Netherlands256 Posts
It only takes a sliver of insight to be able to see that this is the party of the wealthy. Since politics is run by money, they do everything to get in power and look after the interests of their financial backers. So, how are a bunch of middle and lower class people on forums defending these people? How do you justify destroying your own financial security, TL Republicans? Based on ideals thinking that if you'd worked harder, you'd have been part of the upper class of society? | ||
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Giant Squid Thing
England54 Posts
On September 08 2011 07:55 HoldenR wrote: What strikes me as odd is that there are actually people, who are assumingly not upper-elite class, defending the republic party. It only takes a sliver of insight to be able to see that this is the party of the wealthy. Since politics is run by money, they do everything to get in power and look after the interests of their financial backers. So, how are a bunch of middle and lower class people on forums defending these people? How do you justify destroying your own financial security, TL Republicans? Based on ideals thinking that if you'd worked harder, you'd have been part of the upper class of society? MURRKAN DREAM BRO FOK YER IF I WORK REAL HARD AT MY DADS CAR WASH ILL BE RISH TOO! Naw seriously, you wont get anything but pretentious 18 year old who haven't actually done anything yet tell you how the world works, as an answer to your question. It's better to walk away at this point man. dont drag yourself through the mud with these kdis | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On September 08 2011 07:44 Bill Murray wrote: "WHERE ARE THE JOBS, STEVE" steve jobs only took 1 dollar a year away from apple as his pay(if you're not counting his shit ton of stock in apple which is taxed at a different rate depending on how he uses it) | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
On September 08 2011 07:45 wherebugsgo wrote: Source please? Most of the content of your posts, xDaunt, is as or even more unsubstantiated as you claim the article in the OP is. Let me try to find a source but i believe a specific poll pointed out that the words obamacare w.e on the national level was put down by the majority, but then if you ask people about individual things all inside of that bill they would overwhelming agree with it. Which goes with misinformation campaign political people use, just like the change from the words global warming to climate change, just due to different wording people feared it less and took it as less of an issue. Making the point people believe the lies lawmakers make up about something in order to brand it shit even if it's a good thing for many many people. edit: _once i find a link_ | ||
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Lord_J
Kenya1085 Posts
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On September 08 2011 06:49 zimz wrote: Apple use to have a manufacturing plant where i lived, but a couple years ago they moved manufacturing to China. My friends use to work at the assembly line for Apple. Fuck Apple! Ya, how dare them employ those evil more productive chinese | ||
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Bulldog654
United States79 Posts
In exchange for "taking care of us" by providing many social programs of questionable effectiveness at the cost of the productive, Democrats demand that i cede rights that I will not compromise on. Bottom line even though I'm apparently a fool for having religious beliefs and also lack a sliver of insight, I am tired of working and seeing all that money taken from my check and knowing its being wasted by an increasingly corrupt and fat federal government. Let me state though, for the record I think it is absolutely foolish for anyone in this country to think things will get better for us if only <insert political party> were in power. I am currently supporting the Republican party under the admittedly very foolish hope that they will get the message I and the majority of my voting countrymen are trying to send them. | ||
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nukeazerg
United States168 Posts
democrats are pro science. Their belief lets them give out loans to failures of green startups that are politically connected and let huge companies like ge pay no taxes. | ||
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