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Aphasie
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Norway474 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 14:36:20
August 02 2011 11:37 GMT
#1
Hey Everybody,

There has been a lot of music threads popping up lately, most of which are electronic music genres. Its my impression that people are getting more and more into it, with the huge wave of House and later Dubstep that has been going on over the last years. This is why i want to share my love for what i consider to be the cremé de la cremé of up-tempo electronic music, namely psy trance. I hope every other Goa Head out there posts some of their favorite artist and tracks too.

What is psy trance?
Psy trance has its original roots from hippies that migrated to Goa, India, at the end of the 1960's. Hence, the original term was Goa trance, but both terms are more or less interchangeable. However psy trance real break-through came in the mid-90's, and is largely considered the golden age of the genre. The music and culture is still retains many of it's original ideas, such as spirituality, drug-use, intense dancing session and psychedelic imagry and patterns.

What distinguishes psy trance?
First off, psy has a pretty intense feel to it. The tempo is usually between 130-150 BPM (beats per minute), and is characterized by complex and evolving melodies accompanied by fast paced bass-lines. The sound usually has an overall theme to it that either resembles something organic or interstellar/sci-fi (Goa is usually attributed to the former and psy to the latter). A lot of songs also often fall in the category of either being spiritually uplifting or some kind of introspective nightmare.

Without further ado, lets get to it!
Introductory songs to new and old psychedelic trance
+ Show Spoiler +

Older songs:

Hallucinogen - LSD


Astral Projection - Enlightened Evolution


Infected Mushroom - Disco Mushroom


S.U.N. Project - Out of My Brain


Man With No Name - Teleport


Juno Reactor - God is God


Jaïa - Maï Maï

Newer:

Filteria - Rotate to Vibrate (Ze remix)


E-Mantra - Dansul leleor


Ajna - Art of Happiness


Over the years there has also developed a few sub-genres in psy-trance. Some are great, some are horrible. I'll leave a few examples of those as well:
+ Show Spoiler +

Soumi, Finlands take on psy. By far much wackier and doesnt attempt to replicate the usual psy sound.
+ Show Spoiler +


Texas Faggot - Back to Mad


Luomuhappo - Rauhaa Veltje


Dark psy Much more intense, has fewer melodic elements and (perhaps you've allready guess it) is extremely dark. Its like being raped by aliens while on acid. But for some reason it seems to be all the rage now. I dont usually listen to this, so just took the first tracks from youtube.
+ Show Spoiler +


Atriohn - Rigns of Fairy


Encephalopaticys - Red Ball


Progressive psy Has less of the intensity and is more agreeable to the ears than regular psy. Still its good genre, especially when your mind is fed up with all the wierd and random stuff.
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Vibrasphere - Forest Fuel


Jaïa - Out of Orbit (Vibrasphere remix)


Solar Fields - Black Arrow


Full-on poppy shit This is what it sounds like when you break every unwritten rule on what psy really is about while still retaining a somewhat similar sound. (Yes i realize these might not be the best examples, but i just had to post them)
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Infected Mushroom - IM the Supervisor


Skazi - Hit and Run


Psybient/Ambient This is what it sounds like when Psy artists and producers halves the tempo, get in their pajamas, rolls up a fat one and starts making music. It should have a thread in its own right, because there is so much good stuff, but i'll leave a few examples here as well.
+ Show Spoiler +


Shpongle - DMT


Solar Fields - Times Are Good (Sometimes Remix)


Ott - Joyful Wonder


Chronos & C. J. Catalizer - Ice Hearts Age


Carbon Based Lifeforms - T-rex Echos


A flowchart made by Anoebis, the founder of Suntrip Records, for a complete and ubiased overview of the development of subgenres.
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[image loading]/spoiler]



I've also made a list of good psy on Grooveshark for your listening pleasure. If you like what you heard in the initial spoiler, you'll like this too. Its a bit easier if you wanna game or do other stuff while listening to the music. (Some of the tracks and artist names aren't proper, but blame Grooveshark for that)

Also be sure to check out di.fm's Psy and Goa channel.. Its a continuous stream of Goa/Psy.

Important Psy sites
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psynews.org
Psynews is one of the largest, most well run community sites out there. Its been up for well over a decade (i think), i would consider it the TL of psy.

Psychedelic Mind Expander (psydb.net)
Psydb.net is like the TLPD of psy. It extensively covers artists and any psy-related release. If you cant find the release you're looking for, you can't find it anywhere.

isratrance.com
Another great community site. Has a good database, forum and probably the best overview of psy parties throughout the world

ektoplazm.com
Your best source for "under the radar" psy out there. A shitload non-labled or obscure label artist publish their music here. Much of it is free, and a lot is pretty cheap. A very good source if you're looking for legitimate music.



IF YOU POST MORE THAN TWO TRACKS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN SPOILERS
Or else this is going to be pretty chaotic very soon, and makes it very hard to comment on specific posts/tracks.

edit: Kazius took the time to further expand on the history, scenes and genres of psy/goa. It was so good that everybody should read it. Thanks! Also, thanks to vGl-CoW for putting it in.

+ Show Spoiler [Kazius' expanded history of psy- and g…] +

On July 15 2012 20:50 Kazius wrote:
OK, psytrance and goa trance are NOT interchangeable. Here is a short explanation as to how the scene evolved, genres of the music, and the such... with examples, to give you a feel for what made each genre unique.

+ Show Spoiler [The history and evolution of Goa Trance] +
In the late 80s and early 90s, in the beaches of the Goa province in India, the ultimate hippy resort in the world, Goa Trance began. There were three main groups of hippies there, the German tourists, the British tourists, and the Israeli tourists. What all three had in common was the need for counterculture for the 80s - a high pressure, hypercapitalistic time. The stereotype was that Germans wanted to escape the conformity which was at a peak for German culture back then, the English wanted to escape the dreariness of the Thatcher era, and the Israeli post-military "oh god I need to clean my head from the fucking army". The historically hippy attitude of that place, with the cheap psychedelic drugs and high quality hash, low cost and beautiful weather and beaches was the right place, and it was the right time.

The parties there were fueled by LSD, due to the hippy roots of the place. The Germans and English brought Acid House and Techno, and the Israelis brought their unconventional mix-and-match attitudes. Using DAT recordings and mixers, the acid loops with techno grooves, DJs developed a unique style there, tailored for the acid culture. It was centered around the high energy, free-flowing sounds and not on the monotone roots of acid house and techno. Named after the location, Goa Trance was born. People returning from Goa brought it home in the form of mix tapes, and musicians started making this music from the ground up, not just basing it on loops and recordings from other genres.

Goa Trance became focused on an organic sound, based on flow rather than a strict structure. It was about sounds that made your brain explode when tripping, not about the simple euphoria of the MDMA fueled dancefloors of Europe. Each country developed it's own style and feel from a local scene, and they all melded together again and again at the Mecca of psychedelic culture. Goa became a mixing pot of ideas coming from all over the world now, Japan gaining influence, but still, the three countries that started it all were dominant. It was still a small scene relatively speaking, and artists met up there, at the heart of it all, and the parties there became legendary, lasting for days. This was the pre-internet days, and the source of the cutting edge music was mixtapes people brought back home from those parties. The music changed and became more refined on what seemed a daily basis, as this was a totally new music genre with nothing to be based on. You can recognize what year a track was made by listening.

By 1994, Goa Trance had evolved it's own unique sound, exemplified by the three major sounds:

The Israeli sound, led by Astral Projection (and to a lesser extent MFG). It was based on high energy, euphoria, with a distinct feel of getting people to jump as high as they possibly could while dancing. The Juno series of Roland synthesizers and of course the tb303 were the dominant sounds.

+ Show Spoiler [Astral Projection - Mehadeva] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k00Zrc2iXUM


The German sound on the other hand was the most serious of the three. X-Dream and Planet BEN were the leaders of the scene, and twenty years later, to a large extent they still are. It stuck a lot closer to the acid house and techno roots of the music. It was focused on intensity, and if the Israeli sound was about jumping, the German sound was about kicking up some dust.

+ Show Spoiler [X-Dream - Children Of The Last Generat…] +


The English sound was about the psychedelia, with the band The Infinity Project, who had opened their own (and the most influential on the scene from 1994-1997) record label, and the still active and possibly the best known of all goa era acts, Juno Reactor. It was about an eclectic combination of sounds, and creating trippy atmospheres. Just as in the 60s, the English took the psychedelic movement and pushed it forward by giving a richness and theatricality to the music. They were also the middle ground between the controlled intensity of the German sound and the organic euphoria of the Israeli sound, and as such, perhaps represent the goa era best.

+ Show Spoiler [Juno Reactor - Contact] +


+ Show Spoiler [And Psytrance was born] +
And then, when the Goa Trance scene was rapidly growing, with three major sounds emerging, we reach 1994. The English goa trance scene was already pushing Goa Trance out of it's original feel and into something new. The scene had grown by an insane amount. It was no longer just hippies, freaks and people who stumbled into the Goa province when travelling. There were parties dedicated to the genre all over the world now, with a center around the outdoor parties, leaving the clubs to the techno and house crowds. The sound and feel of psychedelia lent itself well to natural surroundings, and at this point, the vast majority had not been to Goa, but rather, met the music in the forests, fields and deserts where parties lasted for twelve hours or longer due to the length of the LSD experience. Music for night and day evolved into different sounds (nighttime was more psychedelic and introspective music, while the daytime was more emotional and free-flowing. The sunrise, to this day, remains a special time when anything can happen in these raves). And a new generation of partygoers was looking for something to suit them just as well as Goa had suited the people 4-5 years older than them.

A single was released by a relatively unknown young bloke from England, who wanted to be a guitar player until he saw Ozric Tentacles perform and though "well, the keyboard is pretty awesome, I want to learn that". Growing up on English psychedelia, he released a single that changed the scene forever. This is of course Hallucinogen - Alpha Centauri / LSD single. This was not goa trance. It was not centered around the psychedelia, but rather about creating what can be dubbed as "soundscapes". His music did something new, and unheard of in electronic music. He created stories through sound, to take the listeners on an emotional roller coaster, while maintaining the psychedelic nature of the sound. LSD to this day remains the single most played track of all the offshoots and subgenres the scene has spawned. It has the German controlled beat, the Israeli euphoria, and the English psychedelia of the earlier Goa Trance sound, distilled and combined into a new genre.

+ Show Spoiler [Hallucinogen - LSD] +


This is how Psytrance was born. At the time, it was still labeled goa trance, but in historical review, that one track created a new, different genre. A year later, Hallucinogen - Twisted, his first album was released. It still had a little bit of goa in it (Snarling Black Mabel), but his distinct sound took the scene by storm. That album revolutionized the scene. One album changed everything. This is the first real Psytrance album. Other acts soon followed the lead, focusing on creating soundscapes and not just interesting combinations of sounds. Koxbox, Juno Reactor, X-Dream, basically all the big names found a new way to think about making music and doing their own thing. The leaders of the scene started sounding a lot less alike, but developed their own unique takes on the exciting new concept of Psytrance, which also created some interesting innovations in Goa Trance, but by 1996, that feel was sidelined.

Just as 1994 was a peak of the six years of evolution of Goa Trance from a collection of loops and shoddy DJ mixes into a totally new and fully fleshed out genre, by 1997, the year of Hallucinogen's second album, Psytrance had evolved into a new and unique sound. Again, the English, German and Israeli acts were the strong names, but now joined by a new group, the Scandinavians.

The Israeli scene was still creating hybrids of Goa and Psytrance, since it's own goa sound was unique and very close to the soundscape feel from the very start. Israeli Psytrance still had a lot of that energy left in it, but was now much less a world of it's own, and had definitely matured. Astral Projection still remained the leaders of the scene, but many new talents started popping up, people who grew up at the psychedelic raves that Israel remains famous for. The need to let loose with full-power after the mandatory three year military service kept the Israeli sound honest to it's roots.

+ Show Spoiler [Astral Projection - Dancing Galaxy] +

+ Show Spoiler [Tandu - Alien Pump] +


The German sound was still about the depth of the music, and was still more influenced by the monotone techno/acid house roots of the genre than others. Picking up also a lot of the explosiveness from the Israeli sound, but in a much more controlled fashion, X-Dream still led the German scene forward, along with a slew of newcomers. Electric finally got outside of the party circuit enough to actually start releasing their music, along with many other notable artists, including an influx of people from the German metal and techno scenes, which we will talk about later.

+ Show Spoiler [X-Dream - Panic in Paradise] +

+ Show Spoiler [Electric Universe - Technologic] +


England though, that was where Psytrance as it's own genre was born. Simon Posford cemented his legend in the release of his second album, The Lone Deranger. He had broken every single dancefloor mold while remaining true to it's spirit, and set a new high standard for musical expression in electronica (hence earning him his nickname at the time: The Hallucinogenius). Juno Reactor had finally hit their stride, finding their own unique blend of tribal drumming and Psytrance beats, and the entire scene there was flourishing with fresh artists headlining parties all around the world. This was England's golden age in the Psytrance scene.

+ Show Spoiler [Juno Reactor - Conga Fury] +

+ Show Spoiler [Hallucinogen - Deranger] +


The budding scene in Scandinavia was led by their main Goa Trance stars, Koxbox (and their darker side project, Psychopod with Graham Wood of The Infinity Project), who evolved to create some of the most unique sounds and exciting sounds. New talent started gaining some traction, some guy named Tomasz Balicki, which at 1997 was unknown, but would later be a huge part of the scene... Scandinavia was just building up at the time for the most part.

+ Show Spoiler [Psychopod - Friagram] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxNryu7DKPM
*added note: The name is rumored to be "Fry A Graham" shortened, a mention of Graham Wood's time with the Koxbox duo and their psychedelic drug habits. This track is also hugely influential on what happened later in the scene.


+ Show Spoiler [The splitting of the scene] +
The year 1997 signified a change in the scene. It had matured. Record labels that were overly excited and threw around too much money started going bankrupt, and the huge stars that at this point all knew each other and in many cases spent time in the studios with their friends created a much more global sound. But something happened. Some people wanted to take the music back into the clubs, back to the masses. People from the techno and metal scenes which found their place in Psytrance parties were gaining influence and wanted a bit more punch to the music. And then there were the people that didn't really care about anything other than just the over-the-top melodies and loud kicks (which existed as a means to an end in the scene). What followed was a massive fracturing into subgenres.

German rocker and now Industrial artist Tim Schuldt, building upon Psychopod's fresh new explosive sound took it to a whole new level. Electric guitars, super high energy, and just a pound-as-hard-as-you-can no nonsense attitude, and thus Full-On was born. X-Dream had discovered the power of bass heavy, techno monotony when combined with the psychedelic sound and created some of the most powerful music heard back then, and back in 1997 released the first music by their side-project The Delta. It should come as no surprise that the German scene brought the metal and techno influences into psytrance. They were quickly joined by scene new-commers Growling Mad Scientists, and soon enough, this subgenre gained not only traction with the Psytrance crowd, but also the people fresh into the scene saw it as a natural progression forward. Soon enough, there were parties dedicated to just this sound. It had not yet become cheesy and commercial, but rather was all about unrelenting power; as such, it was much closer to what people today call the Darkpsy and Techtrance subgenres. It had reached it's peak in the original incarnation around 2000, with Tim Schuldt's Singles Collection and GMS's prolific releases.

+ Show Spoiler [Tim Schuldt - Absurd] +

+ Show Spoiler [GMS - On a Mission From God] +


But something else happened during that time. Remember when I talked about an obscure guy named Tomasz from Sweden? Well, people know him better now as Atmos. He created the first incarnation of Progressive Psy, and while his first release was in 1998, his influence grew gradually with his releases. What he started doing alone caught on. With every single he released, more people were converted. He brought a clubbier sound, cleaner structures and a softer touch to the music. In 2000 he exploded onto the scene Headcleaner, the album that brought progressive from a tiny subgenre a few Scandinavians did (and some Germans joined in on), into a new revolution for the scene. Atmos, Son Kite, Shiva Chandra, Vibrasphere and many more became the headliners of the parties and festivals. It was about creating a state of trance via monotone beats and then building up an atmosphere. At the start, it was darker, but as the genre grew, so did the Progressive House influences. But for the peak of this subgenres dominance in the 2001-2002 era, Shiva Chandra and Son Kite led the way, the first representing the German progressive sound, the latter the Scandinavian sound.

Scandinavia at this point had displaced England as one of the three major centers of Psytrance influence, due to Son Kite and Atmos having more influence in this period of time than any other act. This also signifies the time when the LSD use in the scene started to fade in favor of more traditional dance-friendly drugs in the mainstream of the Psytrance scene.

+ Show Spoiler [Son Kite - Aiwana (DJ Nukem Remix)] +

+ Show Spoiler [Shiva Chandra - BSB] +


As to Israel, well, Israel also got a bit on the full-on boat, but not nearly as much as the other countries. Israeli Progressive developed later on for the most part. But to this day, a regrettable thing happened. Psytrance had become "cool" in Israel, after the post-army trip to India had become standardized, and not just a thing for people wanting to look for a new and different perspective on life. This was also the start of the local crackdown on drugs and the hippy market. The place had lost it's position as Mecca of the Psytrance world, and had people who were interested in a place they heard was great for taking drugs and partying on the beach. And what they took from that was "well, taking drugs with uplifting melodies and strong kicks... that's awesome". And generally, most people who try that agree. But it was not the message people originally took from the place.

What followed was the creation of Nitzhonot. To this day, most of the Israeli scene that can remember this subgenre reacts with a heavy handed facepalm and "I can't believe people used to listen to that". It started out as crude, simple and tried as hard as it could to be over the top. It later evolved into more complex and better music, but at the start, it was a downright evil caricature of Psytrance. Later it evolved into what people today call Uplifting Goa, which centers upon the euphoric nature of oldschool Israeli Goa Trance and Psytrance, but still contains the over-the-top breakdowns which I guess some people just love. Eyal Barkan was the exemplification of the facepalm moments in the music, and on the other hand, we had some serious talents, like Shidapu who just used the subgenre to gain traction due to the popularity of the genre.

+ Show Spoiler [Shiva Shidapu - Power of Celtic] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjP0FhmKPfg
* Shidapu started out as four friends, Shiva Shidapu was one of them with DJ Jorg. That one, along with a friend called Duvdev, later became Infected Mushroom

+ Show Spoiler [Eyal Barkan - Good Morning Israel] +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPzpIwj0oCw
* this track was a huge hit. People went apeshit over this. It makes me lose faith in humanity.


At this point we reach the early-mid 2000s, Suomi Saundi and Darkpsy subgenres begin to emerge, Techtrance as well (led by X-Dream/The Delta and Spirallianz). Full-on gets influenced a lot by the Nitzhonot subgenre (with Astrix, who started out making Nitzhonot becoming a new star), and taking on some of the clubbier aspects from the Progressive Psy scene which had dethroned it successfully.... fueled by the spike in MDMA use at parties and the return to indoor parties, it returns with a vengeance. Those same trends made the Progressive Psy subgenre move from dark and droning to take a lot more from it's Progressive House cousins. Suomi Saundi went back to the goa and psytrance roots, and decided to take the crazy one step further, completely ignoring the existence of Full-On, Progressive Psy, Nitzhonot and Techtrance at the start, but at some point becoming a bit more standardized. Darkpsy started out as a revolt against Full-On and Progressive leaving their dark and pounding roots behind for the clubbier sounds, and eventually became distilled pounding. Techtrance has become another subgenre in it's own right, being closer to techno than it is to any of the other subgenres.

The only reason people call these subgenres Psytrance is because that was the name of the father, before they all split apart to become different. Excluding the Suomi Saundi, none of these subgenres are in any way psychedelic, and have very little to do with trance (excluding full-on).

I have left out a lot of names and acts that were hugely influential (Har-El, Green Nuns of the Revolution, Dragonfly Records, Tsuyoshi Suzuki, Infected Mushroom and so on). This is a very short version of what actually happened, getting extremely lazy after the explanation of what happened post 2002. Still, I believe that it's a bit less lazy than just giving a one line explanation and an example . This was fueled by people thinking goa trance and psytrance are interchangeable. It's not. They are distinct styles, with distinct cultures behind them.

Hope I've been helpful.


Peace out!
Aphasie
Crazyboogie
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark19 Posts
August 02 2011 11:42 GMT
#2
Shpongle - Behind Closed Eyelids
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"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
Zergtastic
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia81 Posts
August 02 2011 11:44 GMT
#3
I came here expecting it being something related to psystarcraft. Im blind in my fanboyism, clearly.
Forever wearing a leather gracket
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
August 02 2011 11:45 GMT
#4
my favourite track of all time

Sentient66
Profile Joined July 2009
United States651 Posts
August 02 2011 11:48 GMT
#5
Ah, nice OP! I've been waiting for this thread to pop up for a while haha.

Here are some of my favorites:









seNsiX.421
Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
August 02 2011 11:48 GMT
#6
On August 02 2011 20:42 Crazyboogie wrote:
Shpongle - Behind Closed Eyelids
[image loading]


That's not really psy trance, but Psybient/Ambient. But i understand your point. I'll make a list of that in the OP as well. Btw, it's a friggin amazing track. I listened to this while i walked to school for six months straight while is was in middle school.
Crazyboogie
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark19 Posts
August 02 2011 11:51 GMT
#7
On August 02 2011 20:48 Aphasie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 20:42 Crazyboogie wrote:
Shpongle - Behind Closed Eyelids
[image loading]


That's not really psy trance, but Psybient/Ambient. But i understand your point. I'll make a list of that in the OP as well. Btw, it's a friggin amazing track. I listened to this while i walked to school for six months straight while is was in middle school.


Ye I know, but since you already mentioned Infected, it was my best contribution. I think psychill is the genre, but i'm not sure.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man"
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
August 02 2011 11:53 GMT
#8
On August 02 2011 20:48 Sentient66 wrote:
Ah, nice OP! I've been waiting for this thread to pop up for a while haha.

Here are some of my favorites:


Interesting, more modern take of Bust a Move by Infected from their last album.

DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
August 02 2011 11:54 GMT
#9
Awesome. I was just waiting for someone to make a thread like this! I usually listen to goa/psytrance on di.fm when I play SC2 or just normal trance.

I am mostly a fan of "old" psytrance from the mid 1990´s, though some of the new stuff is pretty good as well.
When it comes to subgenres and artists I like both israeli psy (NOT Skazi), dark psy such as X-dream and most other psy really. Here are some examples:

Israeli psy


Dark psy


"classic psy"


Kojaimea
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom277 Posts
August 02 2011 11:58 GMT
#10
Are we really going to have a different thread for every sub(sub) genre? Doesn't really seem necessary.
The riverbed, dried-up, half full of leaves. Us, listening to a river in the trees.
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 12:06:28
August 02 2011 12:00 GMT
#11
yay, a thread about my favorite music!!

Very nice OP with good examples (also love the Full-on hate), but I'm a little surprised to see you're from Norway and you didn't mention Forest Trance? Maybe because you don't like dark...

A few dudes who make bad ass Forest Trance, all of them Scandinavians:

Derango:

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Ka-Sol:

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and my favorites, Battle of the Future Buddhas:

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edit: love seeing all the goa fans suddenly coming out of the woodwork just waiting for this thread to be made haha

Kojaimea: I'm extremely biased here but I feel there's no harm in giving people threads to discuss their favorite music, as long as we don't go overboard. In this case, I feel that goatrance and psytrance are different enough from regular trance to warrant their own thread... They have their roots in trance but have grown out to form a completely different sound and community.
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DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 12:08:49
August 02 2011 12:06 GMT
#12
On August 02 2011 20:58 Kojaimea wrote:
Are we really going to have a different thread for every sub(sub) genre? Doesn't really seem necessary.


Yes it is necessary. If you dont like it gtfo,,,,sorry.

Edit: What vGI-COW said.
Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 12:12:05
August 02 2011 12:11 GMT
#13
On August 02 2011 20:58 Kojaimea wrote:
Are we really going to have a different thread for every sub(sub) genre? Doesn't really seem necessary.


I don't mean to split hairs here, but it's a genre in its own right. The music is so different that it warrants its own thread.

You don't post Grunge in a Thrash-metal thread.
You don't post Eurobeat in a Electronica thread.
You don't post western Pop in a K-pop thread.
etc. etc.

It so unique that it has to have its own place.

If we should get our own music subforum (hint hint admins) i guess the problem would be solved.

Edit: Holy shit! That guy got schooled
jean-fart den 3de
Profile Joined August 2011
Belgium1 Post
August 02 2011 12:14 GMT
#14
Derango (without doubt the best forest trance producer)


Grapes of wrath


Hokus Pokus (awsome)


Gidra aka acces gremlin


Dronebixie


Nxum


Jahbo(awsome)




These are all great forest-trance producers.
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 12:29:06
August 02 2011 12:20 GMT
#15
I don't think Infected Mushroom breaks ALL the rules... >>

God they are such a great group. This is by far my favorite music genre, and Infected Mushroom is right at the top. I love UX as well...





They only made one Album iirc (Ultimate Experience) and it's a compilation group...I think the leader of Juno Reactor and some other electronic style groups wanted to really experiment with this kind of music so they got together and threw out an album. It turned out AMAZING.


edit: More! Haven't seen these guys in the thread yet. ^^




omg it's Nada :p




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Aphasie
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Norway474 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-05 23:36:54
August 02 2011 12:25 GMT
#16
On August 02 2011 21:00 vGl-CoW wrote:
yay, a thread about my favorite music!!

Very nice OP with good examples (also love the Full-on hate), but I'm a little surprised to see you're from Norway and you didn't mention Forest Trance? Maybe because you don't like dark...

and my favorites, Battle of the Future Buddhas:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE62pDuCv0s



Perhaps i could have included a few more genres, but after over hours of typing my head was pretty mashed up. Maybe I'll edit them into OP some other time.

On another note, friggin love Tigerhill. I was going to include it in my grooveshark list, but unfortunately is wasn't there. Its a really kick-ass track.

On August 02 2011 21:20 Torenhire wrote:
I don't think Infected Mushroom breaks ALL the rules... >>

God they are such a great group. This is by far my favorite music genre, and Infected Mushroom is right at the top. I love UX as well...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dBvDLxhvb0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC-X4qOTUzM

They only made one Album iirc (Ultimate Experience) and it's a compilation group...I think the leader of Juno Reactor and some other electronic style groups wanted to really experiment with this kind of music so they got together and threw out an album. It turned out AMAZING.



Dont get me wrong, IM's three first albums are simply amazing. Also all other compils they were on in that era of their group. But since Converting Vegiterians it's all been downhill.

Edit I forgot this video existed. I found it quite hilarous (the first five times i saw it).
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It has some racism in it, so if you think you will be offended, don't watch it. And FYI its not the racism thats so funny.



Didn't realize Juno Members had other psy projects. Will definitely check out UX.
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
August 02 2011 12:25 GMT
#17
I think this is by far the best track from UX:

Bartuc
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands629 Posts
August 02 2011 12:26 GMT
#18
It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one's head and succumb.
vGl-CoW
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 12:36:30
August 02 2011 12:33 GMT
#19
On August 02 2011 21:25 Aphasie wrote:
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On August 02 2011 21:00 vGl-CoW wrote:
yay, a thread about my favorite music!!

Very nice OP with good examples (also love the Full-on hate), but I'm a little surprised to see you're from Norway and you didn't mention Forest Trance? Maybe because you don't like dark...

and my favorites, Battle of the Future Buddhas:

+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE62pDuCv0s



Perhaps i could have included a few more genres, but after over hours of typing my head was pretty mashed up. Maybe I'll edit them into OP some other time.

On another note, friggin love Tigerhill. I was going to include it in my grooveshark list, but unfortunately is wasn't there. Its a really kick-ass track.


oh, I wasn't expecting you to type out a full list of every subgenre or anything (I think you gave a good overview), just a little surprised to see a goahead from Norway who isn't into Forest Trance, because your country is known for it... It's gotta be played at a lot of parties in Norway, right? I don't think I know any Norwegian artists who don't produce forest or dark.

edit: agree with your comment on IM, I also feel it's been way downhill since Converting Vegetarians.. Didn't know the Juno Reactor sideproject either, also checking it out!
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
August 02 2011 12:36 GMT
#20
I dunno, The Legend of the Black Shawarma has a few good tracks on it. I think they're moving into a weirder...self-made psytrance genre lol.



If you really can't stand em, fast forward to the 2:40 area, the break at 2:51 is nuts, I really like this entire song through and through.



^ my favorite song on that album
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