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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 16 2005 18:13 GMT
#61
On March 16 2005 19:19 Ack1027 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2005 18:36 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On March 16 2005 18:06 Ack1027 wrote:
On March 10 2005 13:52 Final Heaven wrote:
On March 10 2005 13:12 Ack1027 wrote:]
Korea and Japan share many attributes like food, customs, martial arts, pottery, etc because the majority of it was stolen by the Japanese and modified. I.E. Karate, their type of Kimchi, among other things.

Korea didnt invent these things . Customs , martial arts , pottery ... all came from China .
Chinese culture has a very great Influence in this area .



Taekwondo, traditional clothing, and special pottery [ Among other things ] belongs solely to Korea.
I agree that China does/did have a great influence on Asia but it doesn't change the fact that things like culture, food, customs, ideals were stolen by Japanese.

Tae Kwon Do was VERY influenced by japanese karate (whiiiich of course was heavily influenced by chinese martial arts, which in turn were even more so influenced by indian martial arts.. and they were influenced by GREECE MARTIAL ARTS like pankratium through Alexander the Great.. yeah), please do not say otherwise.
If you want to be proud of korean martial arts, be proud of taek kyon, ssirum etc

Haedong kumdo is supposedly pretty korean as well.


Ssirum is wrestling...

OMGGREEK!?!?!

OMGHUMAN!11111111111
I dont think there is a nation on earth that doens't have wrestling ~_~

Ssirum is korean.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-17 00:50:15
March 16 2005 18:15 GMT
#62
On March 16 2005 19:50 mrmin123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2005 18:42 FrozenArbiter wrote:
On March 10 2005 13:52 Final Heaven wrote:
On March 10 2005 13:12 Ack1027 wrote:]
Korea and Japan share many attributes like food, customs, martial arts, pottery, etc because the majority of it was stolen by the Japanese and modified. I.E. Karate, their type of Kimchi, among other things.

Korea didnt invent these things . Customs , martial arts , pottery ... all came from China .
Chinese culture has a very great Influence in this area .

India influenced you.
Greece influenced India.
Greece was influenced by whoever.
Korea influenced you.
You influenced Korea.
You influenced Japan.
EDIT: So as to not start a gigantic flame war: Japan influenced you
Japan influenced Korea
Korea influenced Japan

*Phew*

Countries will influence eachother. I think us nordic countries should start up shit about who invented what and influenced who the most =[

Yes, horrible shit happened, yes an apology wouldn't be wrong, no you can't beat up japanese tourists ()!!!


you stole our primordial soup.

Yes we did mother fuckers and we are damn proud of it too!!111111111
We also stole all your women, burned down your monasteries, forced our language upon you yadayadayada ;d

Oh right. That's the UK!
Viking mentality gogo.
Oh and finland.
And norway sort of (dunno about the language though).
And the original swedish (well, nordic) population, dont know how it's written in english but the 'same's? ;P

Also the danes for example, did the same to us
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
March 16 2005 19:07 GMT
#63
On March 10 2005 14:43 haduken wrote:
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On March 10 2005 11:24 Final Heaven wrote:
you guys have to pay attention to China . Chinese always want to conquer all country around them !!!!!!!!!!!!!


... When have we ever conquered anything except for our own?


Haw do u define your own? China is occupating Tibet, some history of Tibet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
March 16 2005 19:27 GMT
#64
On March 17 2005 04:07 Polis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2005 14:43 haduken wrote:
On March 10 2005 11:24 Final Heaven wrote:
you guys have to pay attention to China . Chinese always want to conquer all country around them !!!!!!!!!!!!!


... When have we ever conquered anything except for our own?


Haw do u define your own? China is occupating Tibet, some history of Tibet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet


You can say that we toke over the land. Contray to what you believe, our presence there actually helped the region by disbalancing what was a tyranic tribal system and introducing modern sociology etc. If you know anything about the regional issues, you would know that the history of Tibet are so interwebed with my nation that they were indopted into the borders as early as Tang dynasty.
Rillanon.au
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
March 16 2005 20:36 GMT
#65
On March 17 2005 04:27 haduken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2005 04:07 Polis wrote:
On March 10 2005 14:43 haduken wrote:
On March 10 2005 11:24 Final Heaven wrote:
you guys have to pay attention to China . Chinese always want to conquer all country around them !!!!!!!!!!!!!


... When have we ever conquered anything except for our own?


Haw do u define your own? China is occupating Tibet, some history of Tibet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet


You can say that we toke over the land. Contray to what you believe, our presence there actually helped the region by disbalancing what was a tyranic tribal system and introducing modern sociology etc. If you know anything about the regional issues, you would know that the history of Tibet are so interwebed with my nation that they were indopted into the borders as early as Tang dynasty.


http://www.freetibet.org/info/facts/fact3.html -some of china modern sociology, system in Tibet wasn't tyranic there are no reports of breking human laws in any internashional organisation as far i cnow.

http://www.freetibet.org/info/facts/fact15.html Tibet is very old country that have distinct cultural, religious, linguistic and ethnic identity. Tibet lands belong to China becose of union that was before 10th sentury betwen 2 suverent countries? Or maybe becose it was occupited by Mongolians: "Tibet and China both came under the political influence of the Mongols far from indicates unification of the two countries, though. Northern Burma, North Vietnam, Korea and large areas of Siberia were likewise all part of the vast Mongol Empire, yet none are claimed by Beijing today."?

If we fallow that standarts there should be war in europe becose every country would want to take their "own".

China is occupaiting country that was suverent, China is not respecting human laws in Tibet. According to your standarts of "owning" there should be war in europe becose every countr could claim that part or hole of other country/s belongs to them.
derBonobo
Profile Joined March 2005
Austria39 Posts
March 16 2005 20:43 GMT
#66
do south koreans & japanese actually like each other or not? i remember seeing a movie about a korean in japan & he had to face discrimination. i kinda like both countries... mainly because they do awesome movies :p ^^
0_0
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2090 Posts
March 16 2005 21:23 GMT
#67
On March 17 2005 05:36 Polis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2005 04:27 haduken wrote:
On March 17 2005 04:07 Polis wrote:
On March 10 2005 14:43 haduken wrote:
On March 10 2005 11:24 Final Heaven wrote:
you guys have to pay attention to China . Chinese always want to conquer all country around them !!!!!!!!!!!!!


... When have we ever conquered anything except for our own?


Haw do u define your own? China is occupating Tibet, some history of Tibet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet


You can say that we toke over the land. Contray to what you believe, our presence there actually helped the region by disbalancing what was a tyranic tribal system and introducing modern sociology etc. If you know anything about the regional issues, you would know that the history of Tibet are so interwebed with my nation that they were indopted into the borders as early as Tang dynasty.


http://www.freetibet.org/info/facts/fact3.html -some of china modern sociology, system in Tibet wasn't tyranic there are no reports of breking human laws in any internashional organisation as far i cnow.

http://www.freetibet.org/info/facts/fact15.html Tibet is very old country that have distinct cultural, religious, linguistic and ethnic identity. Tibet lands belong to China becose of union that was before 10th sentury betwen 2 suverent countries? Or maybe becose it was occupited by Mongolians: "Tibet and China both came under the political influence of the Mongols far from indicates unification of the two countries, though. Northern Burma, North Vietnam, Korea and large areas of Siberia were likewise all part of the vast Mongol Empire, yet none are claimed by Beijing today."?

If we fallow that standarts there should be war in europe becose every country would want to take their "own".

China is occupaiting country that was suverent, China is not respecting human laws in Tibet. According to your standarts of "owning" there should be war in europe becose every countr could claim that part or hole of other country/s belongs to them.


"freetibet.org" I'm sure thats such an unbiased source eh?
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-16 22:26:08
March 16 2005 21:33 GMT
#68
On March 17 2005 06:23 0_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2005 05:36 Polis wrote:
On March 17 2005 04:27 haduken wrote:
On March 17 2005 04:07 Polis wrote:
On March 10 2005 14:43 haduken wrote:
On March 10 2005 11:24 Final Heaven wrote:
you guys have to pay attention to China . Chinese always want to conquer all country around them !!!!!!!!!!!!!


... When have we ever conquered anything except for our own?


Haw do u define your own? China is occupating Tibet, some history of Tibet:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tibet


You can say that we toke over the land. Contray to what you believe, our presence there actually helped the region by disbalancing what was a tyranic tribal system and introducing modern sociology etc. If you know anything about the regional issues, you would know that the history of Tibet are so interwebed with my nation that they were indopted into the borders as early as Tang dynasty.


http://www.freetibet.org/info/facts/fact3.html -some of china modern sociology, system in Tibet wasn't tyranic there are no reports of breking human laws in any internashional organisation as far i cnow.

http://www.freetibet.org/info/facts/fact15.html Tibet is very old country that have distinct cultural, religious, linguistic and ethnic identity. Tibet lands belong to China becose of union that was before 10th sentury betwen 2 suverent countries? Or maybe becose it was occupited by Mongolians: "Tibet and China both came under the political influence of the Mongols far from indicates unification of the two countries, though. Northern Burma, North Vietnam, Korea and large areas of Siberia were likewise all part of the vast Mongol Empire, yet none are claimed by Beijing today."?

If we fallow that standarts there should be war in europe becose every country would want to take their "own".

China is occupaiting country that was suverent, China is not respecting human laws in Tibet. According to your standarts of "owning" there should be war in europe becose every countr could claim that part or hole of other country/s belongs to them.


"freetibet.org" I'm sure thats such an unbiased source eh?


They got reports form UN u could check it, not base on adres only.

http://www.hrea.org/erc/Library/monitoring/HFHR/6-UN-CommHR.html

After litle google u could notice that only chinise ambasady webside clame that in Tibet China respect human laws.

Amnesty International:
http://www.unpo.org/news_detail.php?arg=52&par=672
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 16 2005 21:43 GMT
#69
jangsh is the cutest person on TL.net by a large margin
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
March 17 2005 00:53 GMT
#70
On March 17 2005 05:43 derBonobo wrote:
do south koreans & japanese actually like each other or not?

NO?
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33693 Posts
March 17 2005 01:48 GMT
#71
On March 16 2005 18:17 mrmin123 wrote:
all the fucking asians stole everything from fucking each other and claimed it as their own and all the fucking asians guard it with unparalleled jealousy and zealousy. its a goddamn multi-national culture fuck-fest.


I wish more koreans knew this
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Final Heaven
Profile Joined February 2005
Japan310 Posts
March 17 2005 03:27 GMT
#72
On March 17 2005 09:53 FrozenArbiter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2005 05:43 derBonobo wrote:
do south koreans & japanese actually like each other or not?

NO?

during WW 2 Japanese soilders raped thousands of Chineses and Korean women . Thats why until now the hatred still remain .
Ultimate Tifa Fan
Final Heaven
Profile Joined February 2005
Japan310 Posts
March 17 2005 03:31 GMT
#73
why why you guys complaining about Tibet's freedom anyway ? Remember that Americans took over their land from the Indians as well .
Ultimate Tifa Fan
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
March 17 2005 03:47 GMT
#74
On March 17 2005 12:31 Final Heaven wrote:
why why you guys complaining about Tibet's freedom anyway ? Remember that Americans took over their land from the Indians as well .


It was centuries ago, not many Indians left nad u can't say that America is represing Indians now, and yes it don't mean that Americans wasn't represing Indians back then.
If now some country would use black man as slaves u would say: why u complaing, America had black slaves too?
If someting bad hapend in history it don't give anybady permishon to do the same.
China agresion whos in 1949 there are many peaceful ways to suport Tibet, making olimpic in China is not one of them.
Final Heaven
Profile Joined February 2005
Japan310 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-17 03:57:21
March 17 2005 03:56 GMT
#75
On March 17 2005 12:47 Polis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2005 12:31 Final Heaven wrote:
why why you guys complaining about Tibet's freedom anyway ? Remember that Americans took over their land from the Indians as well .


It was centuries ago, not many Indians left nad u can't say that America is represing Indians now, and yes it don't mean that Americans wasn't represing Indians back then.
If now some country would use black man as slaves u would say: why u complaing, America had black slaves too?
If someting bad hapend in history it don't give anybady permishon to do the same.
China agresion whos in 1949 there are many peaceful ways to suport Tibet, making olimpic in China is not one of them.


yeah you know why there is not many Indians left . Because Americans killed the shit out of them 2 centuries ago .
and from what i heard Americans attacked Mexicans as well so the southern part of America uesed to belong to Mexicans .
like you said , Tibet used to be the part of China centuries ago . Let it be !
p/s : I am not Chinese !
Ultimate Tifa Fan
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
March 17 2005 04:06 GMT
#76
No Tibet wasn't part of China centuries ago.
China is breaking human laws now, whot can u do for Indians or mexicans that leaved centuries ago?
0_0
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2090 Posts
March 17 2005 04:13 GMT
#77
You can give the land back to them? They have Indian nations. The entire United States was built on stolen land. Just because they did it doesn't mean it can't be undone, you just don't want it undone.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-03-17 04:33:42
March 17 2005 04:26 GMT
#78
On March 17 2005 13:13 0_0 wrote:
You can give the land back to them? They have Indian nations. The entire United States was built on stolen land. Just because they did it doesn't mean it can't be undone, you just don't want it undone.


1)But that would be against all the Americans that live now in America and that didn't even exist when that was happening.
2)America is not represing Indians.

According to your logic if Germany would took over France or Poland they should not be stoped becose Americans took over America from Indians.
Polis
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland1292 Posts
March 17 2005 04:39 GMT
#79
On March 17 2005 13:13 0_0 wrote:
You can give the land back to them? They have Indian nations. The entire United States was built on stolen land. Just because they did it doesn't mean it can't be undone, you just don't want it undone.


I was refering to represhions.
0_0
Profile Joined April 2004
United States2090 Posts
March 17 2005 05:34 GMT
#80
On March 17 2005 13:26 Polis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2005 13:13 0_0 wrote:
You can give the land back to them? They have Indian nations. The entire United States was built on stolen land. Just because they did it doesn't mean it can't be undone, you just don't want it undone.


1)But that would be against all the Americans that live now in America and that didn't even exist when that was happening.
2)America is not represing Indians.

According to your logic if Germany would took over France or Poland they should not be stoped becose Americans took over America from Indians.


I'm not saying that. I'm saying you and the US government are setting double standards. If you're going to take away Tibet, you might as well as cut up the USA, after all, they're on other people's land too. Yes, it would be "against" all the Americans that live in the USA now, but it was their choice to come right? Not repressing the Native Americans? Keeping them pent up in little "reservations," taking their land, thats not repression?
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