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Some people are treating this man as simply a man who believed in his cause and acted to bring attention to it. Yet suicide bombers are treated as sheep to a religion that they also claim encourages violence. Why the favouritism? I don't think he's that much different from the men who committed the 9/11 attacks, the July London bombings, or the LTTE Black Tigers.
On July 24 2011 18:51 Thorakh wrote:
I absolutely agree with people who share the view that Muslims and the West just cannot live together, if the concentration of Muslims is high enough. The Islam is just not build that way. We can peacefully coexist, by being in different countries, but not by being in the same. I fear that some parts of his view of the future may come true. It is the Muslims who will have to change if it isn't to come true. And a lot already have, just like almost all Christians, who no longer seek world domination.
If you believe truly believe this, it is you who should reform and not the Muslims. If you do not seek peaceful coexistence then you simply won't get it.
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On July 24 2011 19:38 Ardhimas wrote:Some people are treating this man as simply a man who believed in his cause and acted to bring attention to it. Yet suicide bombers are treated as sheep to a religion that they also claim encourages violence. Why the favouritism? I don't think he's that much different from the men who committed the 9/11 attacks, the July London bombings, or the LTTE Black Tigers. Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 18:51 Thorakh wrote:
I absolutely agree with people who share the view that Muslims and the West just cannot live together, if the concentration of Muslims is high enough. The Islam is just not build that way. We can peacefully coexist, by being in different countries, but not by being in the same. I fear that some parts of his view of the future may come true. It is the Muslims who will have to change if it isn't to come true. And a lot already have, just like almost all Christians, who no longer seek world domination. If you believe truly believe this, it is you who should reform and not the Muslims. If you do not seek peaceful coexistence then you simply won't get it.
Unfortunately, you can't peacefully coexist with everything, and everyone.
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On July 24 2011 19:38 Ardhimas wrote:Some people are treating this man as simply a man who believed in his cause and acted to bring attention to it. Yet suicide bombers are treated as sheep to a religion that they also claim encourages violence. Why the favouritism? I don't think he's that much different from the men who committed the 9/11 attacks, the July London bombings, or the LTTE Black Tigers. Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 18:51 Thorakh wrote:
I absolutely agree with people who share the view that Muslims and the West just cannot live together, if the concentration of Muslims is high enough. The Islam is just not build that way. We can peacefully coexist, by being in different countries, but not by being in the same. I fear that some parts of his view of the future may come true. It is the Muslims who will have to change if it isn't to come true. And a lot already have, just like almost all Christians, who no longer seek world domination. If you believe truly believe this, it is you who should reform and not the Muslims. If you do not seek peaceful coexistence then you simply won't get it.
It's easier to point your finger and shout fanatic at something that's alien to you. I'm confident that for every sympathizer of this maniacs ideas there is one who condones suicide bombings. Kind of disgusting and not in line with the times, or so I would have thought a couple of years back.
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On July 24 2011 19:07 sickle wrote:Key word - 'claims'
I won't bother going through the manifesto video again but doesn't he mention meeting with other people in Europe to discuss his ideologies and so on ? That he acted alone : probable. That he is not part of a -even small - network : doubtful. But it's obvious he's not gonna talk about it...
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I don't understand why people even are listening to his message. He should be ignored.
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On July 24 2011 18:48 chocopaw wrote:
As always when big things happen, the TL thread on it sickens me... I don't want to live on this planet anymore.
I agree, not just limited to TL though
Hey, Knights Templar...Deus Ex!
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On July 24 2011 19:38 Ardhimas wrote:
Some people are treating this man as simply a man who believed in his cause and acted to bring attention to it. Yet suicide bombers are treated as sheep to a religion that they also claim encourages violence. Why the favouritism? I don't think he's that much different from the men who committed the 9/11 attacks, the July London bombings, or the LTTE Black Tigers. He is indeed not any better, because he brought attention to his cause (which is too extreme in itself) the completely wrong way. An eye for an eye makes the world go blind.
Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 18:51 Thorakh wrote:
I absolutely agree with people who share the view that Muslims and the West just cannot live together, if the concentration of Muslims is high enough. The Islam is just not build that way. We can peacefully coexist, by being in different countries, but not by being in the same. I fear that some parts of his view of the future may come true. It is the Muslims who will have to change if it isn't to come true. And a lot already have, just like almost all Christians, who no longer seek world domination. If you believe truly believe this, it is you who should reform and not the Muslims. If you do not seek peaceful coexistence then you simply won't get it.
I am of the opinion that some cultures are just too different to live together. I wish we could all live together in peace, but we can't as long as others feel that they have the right to kill and surpress people with different views.
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On July 24 2011 19:56 Thorakh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 19:38 Ardhimas wrote:
Some people are treating this man as simply a man who believed in his cause and acted to bring attention to it. Yet suicide bombers are treated as sheep to a religion that they also claim encourages violence. Why the favouritism? I don't think he's that much different from the men who committed the 9/11 attacks, the July London bombings, or the LTTE Black Tigers. He is indeed not any better, because he brought attention to his cause (which is too extreme in itself) the completely wrong way. An eye for an eye makes the world go blind. Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 18:51 Thorakh wrote:
I absolutely agree with people who share the view that Muslims and the West just cannot live together, if the concentration of Muslims is high enough. The Islam is just not build that way. We can peacefully coexist, by being in different countries, but not by being in the same. I fear that some parts of his view of the future may come true. It is the Muslims who will have to change if it isn't to come true. And a lot already have, just like almost all Christians, who no longer seek world domination. If you believe truly believe this, it is you who should reform and not the Muslims. If you do not seek peaceful coexistence then you simply won't get it. Nope sorry, I am more than willing to live with people who leave others alone, but the Islam isn't build that way. You can just stick your head in the sand but sooner or later it will come to bite you in the butt. And please point me to the part where I said I didn't want peaceful coexistence? The only way the future will be peaceful is by seperating cultures that are straightly opposed to each other in terms of views. I am of the opinion that some cultures are just too different to live together.
Shut the fuck up and leave this thread. I have lost friends due to this, and there are so many people killed, and you continue with this anti-islam bullshit. Please don't post here anymore.
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On July 24 2011 20:00 Arnstein wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 19:56 Thorakh wrote:On July 24 2011 19:38 Ardhimas wrote:
Some people are treating this man as simply a man who believed in his cause and acted to bring attention to it. Yet suicide bombers are treated as sheep to a religion that they also claim encourages violence. Why the favouritism? I don't think he's that much different from the men who committed the 9/11 attacks, the July London bombings, or the LTTE Black Tigers. He is indeed not any better, because he brought attention to his cause (which is too extreme in itself) the completely wrong way. An eye for an eye makes the world go blind. On July 24 2011 18:51 Thorakh wrote:
I absolutely agree with people who share the view that Muslims and the West just cannot live together, if the concentration of Muslims is high enough. The Islam is just not build that way. We can peacefully coexist, by being in different countries, but not by being in the same. I fear that some parts of his view of the future may come true. It is the Muslims who will have to change if it isn't to come true. And a lot already have, just like almost all Christians, who no longer seek world domination. If you believe truly believe this, it is you who should reform and not the Muslims. If you do not seek peaceful coexistence then you simply won't get it. Nope sorry, I am more than willing to live with people who leave others alone, but the Islam isn't build that way. You can just stick your head in the sand but sooner or later it will come to bite you in the butt. And please point me to the part where I said I didn't want peaceful coexistence? The only way the future will be peaceful is by seperating cultures that are straightly opposed to each other in terms of views. I am of the opinion that some cultures are just too different to live together. Shut the fuck up and leave this thread. I have lost friends due to this, and there are so many people killed, and you continue with this anti-islam bullshit. Please don't post here anymore. It's not anti islam bullshit, it's anti 'people that cannot live together peacefully'. I experience it all the time.
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On July 24 2011 19:56 Thorakh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 19:38 Ardhimas wrote:
Some people are treating this man as simply a man who believed in his cause and acted to bring attention to it. Yet suicide bombers are treated as sheep to a religion that they also claim encourages violence. Why the favouritism? I don't think he's that much different from the men who committed the 9/11 attacks, the July London bombings, or the LTTE Black Tigers. He is indeed not any better, because he brought attention to his cause (which is too extreme in itself) the completely wrong way. An eye for an eye makes the world go blind. Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 18:51 Thorakh wrote:
I absolutely agree with people who share the view that Muslims and the West just cannot live together, if the concentration of Muslims is high enough. The Islam is just not build that way. We can peacefully coexist, by being in different countries, but not by being in the same. I fear that some parts of his view of the future may come true. It is the Muslims who will have to change if it isn't to come true. And a lot already have, just like almost all Christians, who no longer seek world domination. If you believe truly believe this, it is you who should reform and not the Muslims. If you do not seek peaceful coexistence then you simply won't get it. Nope sorry, I am more than willing to live with people who leave others alone, but the Islam isn't build that way. You can just stick your head in the sand but sooner or later it will come to bite you in the butt. And please point me to the part where I said I didn't want peaceful coexistence? The only way the future will be peaceful is by seperating cultures that are straightly opposed to each other in terms of views. I am of the opinion that some cultures are just too different to live together. I wish we could all live together in peace, but we can't as long as others feel that they have the right to kill and surpress people with different views.
You're clearly ignorant of how the world looks today and probably have extremely limited experience with other cultures, but who cares, why are you preaching it here of all places?
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On July 24 2011 20:01 Thorakh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 20:00 Arnstein wrote:On July 24 2011 19:56 Thorakh wrote:On July 24 2011 19:38 Ardhimas wrote:
Some people are treating this man as simply a man who believed in his cause and acted to bring attention to it. Yet suicide bombers are treated as sheep to a religion that they also claim encourages violence. Why the favouritism? I don't think he's that much different from the men who committed the 9/11 attacks, the July London bombings, or the LTTE Black Tigers. He is indeed not any better, because he brought attention to his cause (which is too extreme in itself) the completely wrong way. An eye for an eye makes the world go blind. On July 24 2011 18:51 Thorakh wrote:
I absolutely agree with people who share the view that Muslims and the West just cannot live together, if the concentration of Muslims is high enough. The Islam is just not build that way. We can peacefully coexist, by being in different countries, but not by being in the same. I fear that some parts of his view of the future may come true. It is the Muslims who will have to change if it isn't to come true. And a lot already have, just like almost all Christians, who no longer seek world domination. If you believe truly believe this, it is you who should reform and not the Muslims. If you do not seek peaceful coexistence then you simply won't get it. Nope sorry, I am more than willing to live with people who leave others alone, but the Islam isn't build that way. You can just stick your head in the sand but sooner or later it will come to bite you in the butt. And please point me to the part where I said I didn't want peaceful coexistence? The only way the future will be peaceful is by seperating cultures that are straightly opposed to each other in terms of views. I am of the opinion that some cultures are just too different to live together. Shut the fuck up and leave this thread. I have lost friends due to this, and there are so many people killed, and you continue with this anti-islam bullshit. Please don't post here anymore. It's not anti islam bullshit, it's anti 'people that cannot live together peacefully'. I experience it all the time.
Yeah, that's what Anders Behring Breivik said as well. Leave now.
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On July 24 2011 20:02 vyyye wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 19:56 Thorakh wrote:On July 24 2011 19:38 Ardhimas wrote:
Some people are treating this man as simply a man who believed in his cause and acted to bring attention to it. Yet suicide bombers are treated as sheep to a religion that they also claim encourages violence. Why the favouritism? I don't think he's that much different from the men who committed the 9/11 attacks, the July London bombings, or the LTTE Black Tigers. He is indeed not any better, because he brought attention to his cause (which is too extreme in itself) the completely wrong way. An eye for an eye makes the world go blind. On July 24 2011 18:51 Thorakh wrote:
I absolutely agree with people who share the view that Muslims and the West just cannot live together, if the concentration of Muslims is high enough. The Islam is just not build that way. We can peacefully coexist, by being in different countries, but not by being in the same. I fear that some parts of his view of the future may come true. It is the Muslims who will have to change if it isn't to come true. And a lot already have, just like almost all Christians, who no longer seek world domination. If you believe truly believe this, it is you who should reform and not the Muslims. If you do not seek peaceful coexistence then you simply won't get it. Nope sorry, I am more than willing to live with people who leave others alone, but the Islam isn't build that way. You can just stick your head in the sand but sooner or later it will come to bite you in the butt. And please point me to the part where I said I didn't want peaceful coexistence? The only way the future will be peaceful is by seperating cultures that are straightly opposed to each other in terms of views. I am of the opinion that some cultures are just too different to live together. I wish we could all live together in peace, but we can't as long as others feel that they have the right to kill and surpress people with different views. You're clearly ignorant of how the world looks today and probably have extremely limited experience with other cultures, but who cares, why are you preaching it here of all places? Because it is relevant to the discussion? Stop trying to make it seem like I'm some sort of extremist, I had very nice Muslim neighbours who wouldn't hurt a fly, but have you seen how Muslims in the east react to the West? I don't want any of that over here, stop sticking your head in the sand.
Do you think I sympathize with this moron who did this? Please don't make me laugh. I'm a monster because I think some cultures are different? Get out.
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On July 24 2011 20:02 Arnstein wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 20:01 Thorakh wrote:On July 24 2011 20:00 Arnstein wrote:On July 24 2011 19:56 Thorakh wrote:On July 24 2011 19:38 Ardhimas wrote:
Some people are treating this man as simply a man who believed in his cause and acted to bring attention to it. Yet suicide bombers are treated as sheep to a religion that they also claim encourages violence. Why the favouritism? I don't think he's that much different from the men who committed the 9/11 attacks, the July London bombings, or the LTTE Black Tigers. He is indeed not any better, because he brought attention to his cause (which is too extreme in itself) the completely wrong way. An eye for an eye makes the world go blind. On July 24 2011 18:51 Thorakh wrote:
I absolutely agree with people who share the view that Muslims and the West just cannot live together, if the concentration of Muslims is high enough. The Islam is just not build that way. We can peacefully coexist, by being in different countries, but not by being in the same. I fear that some parts of his view of the future may come true. It is the Muslims who will have to change if it isn't to come true. And a lot already have, just like almost all Christians, who no longer seek world domination. If you believe truly believe this, it is you who should reform and not the Muslims. If you do not seek peaceful coexistence then you simply won't get it. Nope sorry, I am more than willing to live with people who leave others alone, but the Islam isn't build that way. You can just stick your head in the sand but sooner or later it will come to bite you in the butt. And please point me to the part where I said I didn't want peaceful coexistence? The only way the future will be peaceful is by seperating cultures that are straightly opposed to each other in terms of views. I am of the opinion that some cultures are just too different to live together. Shut the fuck up and leave this thread. I have lost friends due to this, and there are so many people killed, and you continue with this anti-islam bullshit. Please don't post here anymore. It's not anti islam bullshit, it's anti 'people that cannot live together peacefully'. I experience it all the time. Yeah, that's what Anders Behring Breivik said as well. Leave now. And he also said we should violently oppose them and kill innocent children. Point me to the part where I said that.
Oh wait, I didn't. Pff... Anyway, I'm stopping this now because some people clearly don't accept other views than a 'rainbow in the sky happy world dancing all together!!' opinion. The world doesn't work like that.
Peace.
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On July 24 2011 20:04 Thorakh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 20:02 vyyye wrote:On July 24 2011 19:56 Thorakh wrote:On July 24 2011 19:38 Ardhimas wrote:
Some people are treating this man as simply a man who believed in his cause and acted to bring attention to it. Yet suicide bombers are treated as sheep to a religion that they also claim encourages violence. Why the favouritism? I don't think he's that much different from the men who committed the 9/11 attacks, the July London bombings, or the LTTE Black Tigers. He is indeed not any better, because he brought attention to his cause (which is too extreme in itself) the completely wrong way. An eye for an eye makes the world go blind. On July 24 2011 18:51 Thorakh wrote:
I absolutely agree with people who share the view that Muslims and the West just cannot live together, if the concentration of Muslims is high enough. The Islam is just not build that way. We can peacefully coexist, by being in different countries, but not by being in the same. I fear that some parts of his view of the future may come true. It is the Muslims who will have to change if it isn't to come true. And a lot already have, just like almost all Christians, who no longer seek world domination. If you believe truly believe this, it is you who should reform and not the Muslims. If you do not seek peaceful coexistence then you simply won't get it. Nope sorry, I am more than willing to live with people who leave others alone, but the Islam isn't build that way. You can just stick your head in the sand but sooner or later it will come to bite you in the butt. And please point me to the part where I said I didn't want peaceful coexistence? The only way the future will be peaceful is by seperating cultures that are straightly opposed to each other in terms of views. I am of the opinion that some cultures are just too different to live together. I wish we could all live together in peace, but we can't as long as others feel that they have the right to kill and surpress people with different views. You're clearly ignorant of how the world looks today and probably have extremely limited experience with other cultures, but who cares, why are you preaching it here of all places? Because it is relevant to the discussion? Stop trying to make it seem like I'm some sort of extremist, I had very nice Muslim neighbours who wouldn't hurt a fly, but have you seen how Muslims in the east react to the West? I don't want any of that over here, stop sticking your head in the sand. Do you think I sympathize with this moron who did this? Please don't make me laugh. I'm a monster because I think some cultures are different? Get out.
Yeah, there are some muslim extremists, but we can't deny ALL muslims to live among us because of some extremists. Just because Anders was a CHRISTIAN psycho killer, it doesn't mean that we should throw all the christians in Norway out of the country.
Don't think all muslims are extremists just because all the muslims you hear about in the media are extremists.
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I dont get how muslim's could do such a thing...Im ashamed of my people.
User was banned for this post.
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On July 24 2011 20:09 SdomKcuf wrote:
I dont get how muslim's could do such a thing...Im ashamed of my people.
I'm torn between ..... and ????
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I dont like where this is heading. He want people to read his shit. The goal of his acts were to get people to listen to him. Now people reads his manifesto, spreads links to it and even discussing it in a way that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. He's winning right now...
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On July 24 2011 20:13 Weson wrote:
I dont like where this is heading. He want people to read his shit. The goal of his acts were to get people to listen to him. Now people read him manifesto and even discussing it in a way that leaves a bad taste in my mouth. He's winning right now...
Exactly! It's terrible.
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I thought it'd be longer till some people begin to essentially say "he wasn't all wrong with what he thought and wrote about, he just shouldn't have resorted to killing"...
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