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Keep your off topic discussions out of this thread and show some damn respect!
Chilling5pr33
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Germany518 Posts
July 23 2011 15:57 GMT
#961
There are more subjects
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/update-two-new-suspects-in-bloody-norway-massacre-breivik-bought-6-tons-of-fertilizer-prior-to-attack/
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CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
July 23 2011 15:57 GMT
#962
On July 24 2011 00:56 tenacity wrote:
Is it yet confirmed that a second shooter was on the island?


No.
larssto
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway18 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-23 15:58:35
July 23 2011 15:58 GMT
#963
On July 24 2011 00:55 Chilling5pr33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 00:54 KillAudio wrote:
Any info on what kind of gun he used?

He had a hand gun and a automatik weapon does it is really relevant wich models he used?


I've seen sources saying he was using a Glock and HK MP5. Some says he had a shotgun as well, but I cannot find any Norwegian sources saying that...
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
July 23 2011 15:58 GMT
#964
On July 24 2011 00:55 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 00:54 KillAudio wrote:
Any info on what kind of gun he used?


Media has been saying between Glock + Rifle/Machine gun. Don't really know what type.

Oh ok thanks. Just trying to visualize how he managed to kill that many people.
From a scale of sheth to idra, how mad are you?
Dr_Jones
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway252 Posts
July 23 2011 15:58 GMT
#965
On July 24 2011 00:54 KillAudio wrote:
Any info on what kind of gun he used?


Speculations have been it was some sort of handgun, either a revolver or a semi automatic, and a hunting rifle of some sort. It has been described by kids on the island as a "sniper", and that could mean anything from a bolt action rifle to a full on magazine rifle. However, I find it hard to imagine it is a fully automatic rifle, as those are illegal for private posession.

In either case, it's really not that important, and we've had this discussion in the previous thread, so can we just leave it until official sources provide this information? Much abliged.
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Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
July 23 2011 15:59 GMT
#966
On July 24 2011 00:52 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 00:50 Quotidian wrote:
On July 24 2011 00:15 zeru wrote:
Who knows if rehabilitation will work or not. It has worked previously in really messed up people. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesnt. However there is no need to be armchair shrinks in this thread.



he might get "rehabilitated," whatever that means, but there will never be a place for him society again. There is no point in spending resources on rehabilitating him in the hopes that he will be able to rejoin society as a productive citizen. Spend resources on trying to understand how he was able to do what he did, how to prevent it. Him and his motives are of no use to anyone.

Being armchair shrinks contributes nothing to this thread either. There are ex serial killers, chainsaw murderers and all kinds of ex-messed up people that have been rehabilitated.



your point?

Why is "rehabilitation" a goal in and of itself when the individual rehabilitated will never be accepted by society. He'll be kept alive, because that's how Norway does things, but it's a waste of resources.
nordlyset
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway38 Posts
July 23 2011 15:59 GMT
#967
On July 24 2011 00:51 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 00:47 Thesidu wrote:
Don't know if it's been posted but the guy apperantly played wow, so inc media warnings on wow and gaming in general...

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/927077585?page=1

He's characters name was Conservatism



Duh, of course he played video games, why else would he kill 90 kids on an island?

Fuck I hate it, but I'm kinda curious about the retarded debates about mass-murder-videogames like Warcraft (There's fucking WAR in the name already!!) that lie ahead now.

I wonder what video game influenced him to become a right extremist serial murder.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
July 23 2011 16:00 GMT
#968
On July 24 2011 00:58 KillAudio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 00:55 Grettin wrote:
On July 24 2011 00:54 KillAudio wrote:
Any info on what kind of gun he used?


Media has been saying between Glock + Rifle/Machine gun. Don't really know what type.

Oh ok thanks. Just trying to visualize how he managed to kill that many people.


Read the OP and you'll visualize it better than you expected.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
July 23 2011 16:00 GMT
#969
--- Nuked ---
larssto
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway18 Posts
July 23 2011 16:00 GMT
#970
Something that annoys me is that the Norwegian news does not seem to have picked up on the fact that this guy's Facebook profile is less than a week old, and most likely contains propaganda he wants the media to see. All the news stations are swallowing what he wrote there seemingly without question....
Celestial
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States652 Posts
July 23 2011 16:01 GMT
#971
Tragedies like this are always sad to hear about and while the news spreading about it is good the negativity in response can lead to more tragedies. Why is it retaliation is the first thing on a lot of minds rather than help?

On the topic of the punishment offshoots we always have, it should be brought elsewhere and not detract from this topic more.
Dr_Jones
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway252 Posts
July 23 2011 16:01 GMT
#972
On July 24 2011 01:00 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 00:59 Quotidian wrote:
On July 24 2011 00:52 zeru wrote:
On July 24 2011 00:50 Quotidian wrote:
On July 24 2011 00:15 zeru wrote:
Who knows if rehabilitation will work or not. It has worked previously in really messed up people. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesnt. However there is no need to be armchair shrinks in this thread.



he might get "rehabilitated," whatever that means, but there will never be a place for him society again. There is no point in spending resources on rehabilitating him in the hopes that he will be able to rejoin society as a productive citizen. Spend resources on trying to understand how he was able to do what he did, how to prevent it. Him and his motives are of no use to anyone.

Being armchair shrinks contributes nothing to this thread either. There are ex serial killers, chainsaw murderers and all kinds of ex-messed up people that have been rehabilitated.



your point?

Why is "rehabilitation" a goal in and of itself when the individual rehabilitated will never be accepted by society. He'll be kept alive, because that's how Norway does things, but it's a waste of resources.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarianism


Well played, sir.
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Dr_Jones
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway252 Posts
July 23 2011 16:02 GMT
#973
On July 24 2011 01:00 larssto wrote:
Something that annoys me is that the Norwegian news does not seem to have picked up on the fact that this guy's Facebook profile is less than a week old, and most likely contains propaganda he wants the media to see. All the news stations are swallowing what he wrote there seemingly without question....


Yes, they have...? They have commented on it several times on TV2 at least, when interviewing the criminal psychology.
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Chilling5pr33
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Germany518 Posts
July 23 2011 16:02 GMT
#974
On July 24 2011 01:00 larssto wrote:
Something that annoys me is that the Norwegian news does not seem to have picked up on the fact that this guy's Facebook profile is less than a week old, and most likely contains propaganda he wants the media to see. All the news stations are swallowing what he wrote there seemingly without question....


Yeah that is what i was thinking this could be all just made for the news to draw this picture of him...
Why dont say that this may be all made up wtf are they just a tool and like it like this or what is wrong with the news????
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Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
July 23 2011 16:02 GMT
#975
On July 24 2011 00:57 CCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 00:56 tenacity wrote:
Is it yet confirmed that a second shooter was on the island?


No.


Many of the survivors say they are absolutely certain there was more than one shooter. Kind of chilling thought that the second gunman could now be hiding among the survivors, hoping that all the kids who could recognize him are dead.

I'm sure that if there was a second gunman, he will be caught. Sooner or later.
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
July 23 2011 16:03 GMT
#976
On July 24 2011 01:00 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 00:59 Quotidian wrote:
On July 24 2011 00:52 zeru wrote:
On July 24 2011 00:50 Quotidian wrote:
On July 24 2011 00:15 zeru wrote:
Who knows if rehabilitation will work or not. It has worked previously in really messed up people. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesnt. However there is no need to be armchair shrinks in this thread.



he might get "rehabilitated," whatever that means, but there will never be a place for him society again. There is no point in spending resources on rehabilitating him in the hopes that he will be able to rejoin society as a productive citizen. Spend resources on trying to understand how he was able to do what he did, how to prevent it. Him and his motives are of no use to anyone.

Being armchair shrinks contributes nothing to this thread either. There are ex serial killers, chainsaw murderers and all kinds of ex-messed up people that have been rehabilitated.



your point?

Why is "rehabilitation" a goal in and of itself when the individual rehabilitated will never be accepted by society. He'll be kept alive, because that's how Norway does things, but it's a waste of resources.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanitarianism


how about you state an argument instead of copping out and linking to a wikipedia article?
saksy2
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway520 Posts
July 23 2011 16:04 GMT
#977
THey just said that interrogating the suspect is "difficult"
CCow
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany335 Posts
July 23 2011 16:06 GMT
#978
On July 24 2011 01:02 Chilling5pr33 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 01:00 larssto wrote:
Something that annoys me is that the Norwegian news does not seem to have picked up on the fact that this guy's Facebook profile is less than a week old, and most likely contains propaganda he wants the media to see. All the news stations are swallowing what he wrote there seemingly without question....


Yeah that is what i was thinking this could be all just made for the news to draw this picture of him...
Why dont say that this may be all made up wtf are they just a tool and like it like this or what is wrong with the news????


This has also been pointed out by at least Spiegel Online, so I think both german and norwegian media are rather critical here.

For german tv-news:
Please dont watch N24 or NTV and take all their stuff for granted, their standarts have not been especially hight during the whole of it.
Gore456
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden12 Posts
July 23 2011 16:07 GMT
#979
Anyone seen the movie Rampage? The whole scenario seems to be taken from there, it's so bizzare o.o, it must have been used as inspiration.
CHILL GET OUT - nAni
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
July 23 2011 16:08 GMT
#980
On July 24 2011 01:02 Kilby wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 00:57 CCow wrote:
On July 24 2011 00:56 tenacity wrote:
Is it yet confirmed that a second shooter was on the island?


No.


Many of the survivors say they are absolutely certain there was more than one shooter. Kind of chilling thought that the second gunman could now be hiding among the survivors, hoping that all the kids who could recognize him are dead.

I'm sure that if there was a second gunman, he will be caught. Sooner or later.


They probably said that because they heard so many shots. But thats again just what I believe..
hatred outlives the hateful
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