On July 02 2011 12:01 JeeJee wrote:
e^(i*pi) = -1
vs
e^(i*tau) = 1
seems equally elegant to me
e^(i*pi) = -1
vs
e^(i*tau) = 1
seems equally elegant to me

Point well made and taken.

Although in many of the uses of e^(pi*i), we want it as -1.

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Picklesicle
United States64 Posts
On July 02 2011 12:01 JeeJee wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2011 11:48 Picklesicle wrote: Oh, and we'll stick we e^(pi*i). There would be an instance of pi being more elegant than tau. e^(i*pi) = -1 vs e^(i*tau) = 1 seems equally elegant to me ![]() Point well made and taken. ![]() Although in many of the uses of e^(pi*i), we want it as -1. ![]() | ||
billy5000
United States865 Posts
Tough luck for grade school students if this change does make its way. | ||
Warpath
Canada1242 Posts
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Clog
United States950 Posts
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Gliche
United States811 Posts
Sine Cosine Tangent Sine Three Point One Four One Five Nine This rhyme helped me so much when I first learned about Pi. For the sake of this rhyme, please keep Pi or else you will ruin my childhood. | ||
Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
Pi is how many diameters needed to equal the circumference of a circle. It's awkward if we just say "tau is twice the number of diameters needed", because it's more arbitrary (and one wouldn't get why we used two circumferences instead of one until they learned "2pi" vs "1tau"). | ||
wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On July 02 2011 11:44 iamho wrote: Fuck no, tau has too many meanings already. I'm also questioning why they want to use Tau. I remember using it in physics for things, which I want to say rotational acceleration or something close to that, but memory was never my strongest element. Personally I think they should just stack two pis on top of each other and call it something new. This "tau" is merely two pi so it makes more sense anyways. Then again I hate Greek letters with a passion so any opportunity to avoid them is a win. | ||
Kazragore
United States369 Posts
On July 02 2011 11:37 Livelovedie wrote: I'm born on pi day, so I want it to stay pi. I was born on Tau day. And so it begins. . . | ||
JeanBob
Canada295 Posts
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Djzapz
Canada10681 Posts
Convenience is a thing of the past. | ||
Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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JeanBob
Canada295 Posts
On July 02 2011 12:23 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: I'm also questioning why they want to use Tau. I remember using it in physics for things, which I want to say rotational acceleration or something close to that, but memory was never my strongest element. Personally I think they should just stack two pis on top of each other and call it something new. This "tau" is merely two pi so it makes more sense anyways. Then again I hate Greek letters with a passion so any opportunity to avoid them is a win. The article pretty much explains it. A circle has a total measure of 2 pi radians, so proportions become complex and weird. Having 1 Tau radian instead is much more easier. Like a quarter of a circle becomes a quarter of a pau radian. | ||
Misder
United States1557 Posts
Really good explanation of why tau is better than pi. EDIT: And something interesting I just found | ||
summerloud
Austria1201 Posts
i dont know enough about mathemathics to judge if this is a good change or not however, i think in general it would be much better to get rid of stupid stuff that people got used to eg: non-metric system, timezones, writing dates the american way (like they did with 6/28 even in this text), qwertz keyboards, umlauts (öäü) and ß in german, similar letters in skandinavian languages and most accents in spanish italian and french, backward compatibility in computer systems, etc etc etc also there is a lot of stuff that could easily be improved if you dont give a shit about tradition: rules for plenty of really popular sports could need improvement (football comes into mind), same for board games (chess) simplify and optimize with no regard to tradition, if we didnt have people do that in the past (thank you napoleon) we would still be stuck with even more old baggage than we are | ||
JeanBob
Canada295 Posts
On July 02 2011 12:29 Misder wrote: http://tauday.com/ Really good explanation of why tau is better than pi. The greek letter looks like a T, it would confuse me like hell in my works for school :/ Else I think Tau is better. | ||
Alzadar
Canada5009 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On July 02 2011 12:27 JeanBob wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2011 12:23 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: On July 02 2011 11:44 iamho wrote: Fuck no, tau has too many meanings already. I'm also questioning why they want to use Tau. I remember using it in physics for things, which I want to say rotational acceleration or something close to that, but memory was never my strongest element. Personally I think they should just stack two pis on top of each other and call it something new. This "tau" is merely two pi so it makes more sense anyways. Then again I hate Greek letters with a passion so any opportunity to avoid them is a win. The article pretty much explains it. A circle has a total measure of 2 pi radians, so proportions become complex and weird. Having 1 Tau radian instead is much more easier. Like a quarter of a circle becomes a quarter of a pau radian. Did you even read past the first sentence? I'm questioning the word choice not the reasoning behind it. | ||
Dave[9]
United States2365 Posts
On July 02 2011 12:31 JeanBob wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2011 12:29 Misder wrote: http://tauday.com/ Really good explanation of why tau is better than pi. The greek letter looks like a T, it would confuse me like hell in my works for school :/ Else I think Tau is better. It only looks like a T if you don't make the hat thing squiggly like a ~ lol. BTW as far as other tau uses go, We used the symbol a lot in my abstract algebra class when studying homomorphisms, isomorphisms, galios groups, etc. Although that was be the use of our professor because he seeming to like tau and lower case sigma the most for those types of things. Oh, and I've seen it used for the golden ratio like twice ever, because phi is so popular for it instead. | ||
JeanBob
Canada295 Posts
On July 02 2011 12:39 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 02 2011 12:27 JeanBob wrote: On July 02 2011 12:23 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: On July 02 2011 11:44 iamho wrote: Fuck no, tau has too many meanings already. I'm also questioning why they want to use Tau. I remember using it in physics for things, which I want to say rotational acceleration or something close to that, but memory was never my strongest element. Personally I think they should just stack two pis on top of each other and call it something new. This "tau" is merely two pi so it makes more sense anyways. Then again I hate Greek letters with a passion so any opportunity to avoid them is a win. The article pretty much explains it. A circle has a total measure of 2 pi radians, so proportions become complex and weird. Having 1 Tau radian instead is much more easier. Like a quarter of a circle becomes a quarter of a pau radian. Did you even read past the first sentence? I'm questioning the word choice not the reasoning behind it. Oups, sorry, then I have no idea. | ||
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