because I'm a TLForum&Blog lurker since quite a long time i can say that i usually agree with the opinion of this community and I have a question to which i really wish to know Your answer...
The question is: Is it ok to invite stripper to a Bachelor party?
I'd appreciate if you add to your post
if you've been to such party (with or without strippers) and have some real experience or if you're posting without any experience with it.
I guess it is really situational, cuz as i read on forums someone made a 24h playing sc2 bachelor party and obviously then a stripper is an overkill but in my situation my brother is getting married in 2 weeks, he is 28, IT worker, so we decided to rent a house next to a lake and around 15 of his friends (very little from work, mostly from highshool and univeristy) will come for a 3 day long party (Males only ofc). We already prepared a kick ass paintball game in a forest+field nearby and also some movies displayed on the highest wall of the house. Also gonna get lots of booze and some fireworks to let ppl living nearby know we are there ;D We are all preparing for truly extreme hardcore partying so I really dont want to make any stupid decisions or assumptions and in the worst case spoil the fun.
Also: If you guys know/ have any other ideas that are worth including in a Bachelor Party Schedule PM me or just post them here!!! I'd really appreciate it as well...
Plz... help me to make up my mind and already THANK YOU for your input in this topic
P.S: sry for my bad english. i hope you guess the correct meaning of my awkward vocab and grammar use.
It really depends on your brother. Since its his wedding/bachelor party, you wouldn't want to make it a bad memory for him will ya? So go for it if he is into that.
On June 27 2011 00:58 edc wrote: It depends on whether your brother's wife knows about it...
she will have her own party and it really Not depends. It rather depends will she have her own stripper, if she's not then it's to person who will be taking the wedding. He might not want to have a stripper because of this reason, but he could understand that it's mostly party for his male friends so he can just sit there on the stage and do nothing. Girl making stripptease could even move the party, take other guys on the stage dance with here, or just some volunteers. It's really good to have a girl on such a party, one say that It's a must. Especially that parties including male only, to not be disregarding to me and the other guys, Might be boring.
Here's my question, to your question. In 2011, people still *actually* think the best way to spend their "last night of freedom" is with a girl who gets paid to rub her ass on men 5 days a week?
Personally a lot of my friends who have had bachelor parties said that they'd just feel awkward if a surprise stripper showed up. Maybe some people would like it, some might not. Seems like you have a lot of surefire kickass things planned though, so I'd stick with what's a sure thing
On June 27 2011 00:58 edc wrote: It depends on whether your brother's wife knows about it...
she will have her own party
That's quite true so i guess the decision is truly on my brother's side... And like in FightClub: what happens in a bachelor party stays in a bachelor party ^ ^ god I'm so hyped!!!
On June 27 2011 00:58 edc wrote: It depends on whether your brother's wife knows about it...
she will have her own party
That's quite true so i guess the decision is truly on my brother's side... And like in FightClub: what happens in a bachelor party stays in a bachelor party ^ ^ god I'm so hyped!!!
Yes I was, and it even was last week, it worked really really well, party was fun, girl was a cutie, everyone was sitting there watching for like 15 minutes. Girl then was sitting with, talking, it was really nice. I really advice to have a stripper on such party, maybe even two, if you can afford.
On June 27 2011 00:58 edc wrote: what happens in a bachelor party stays in a bachelor party
...Dont go for hardcore partying your heads off. Go for the fun things. You'll have plenty of time to get wasted togheter in the years to come, dont celebrate some glorified culturual ideal you celebrated when you were 16.
Is a stripper realy what a man thats been ringed by this most amazing woman needs? He is free, but booze and lots of talk about freedom and pressure might make him think he is not. He has already freely given himself to her, to be married, to have only her. Dont make it out he is somehow going to be less free. Some words in a church just makes their relationship legaly binding.
if you party consists of booze, paintball, and fireworks...how can you not include strippers into it? however, you mentioned "very little" people from work. how little, is his boss coming? do you know any of those people from work? if you do, and you think they will be ok with it, i say go for it!
It depends on the group. Strippers and strip clubs aren't my thing. I'd much prefer getting drunk and playing video games with my buds. Consequently we're probably going to Dave and Busters for my bachelor party.
Hey, the last bachelor party i went to, a good friend for quite a few years, we didn't have a stripper and we really didn't need one. It depends on the type of guy your brother is and if you want her to be a main focus. Things could get a little troublesome, keeping her busy, some friends trying to get laid, awkwardness setting in the middle/end of it. Let alone the wife finding out. You've gotta know exactly what you're looking for if you bring her along. I went paintballing too and it was so much fun, specially since i stayed the cleanest . CS skills come in handy. Hope ya have a good time!!
I've been to bachelors parties where strippers came by. The whole purpose is to embarrass the guy getting married, so don't worry too much about that. In the end it is just good for a few laughs, nothing serious. So in the end it is a win win decision. If he feels uncomfortable about it...great, point and laugh. If he likes it, well then it will still be good for a laugh or two
I wouldn't do it. I'll probably end up with "best man" honor for my cousin if he gets married to his current GF. They've been dating forever (9-10 years) and one time, waaaaay back in HS, we worked for a construction company during the summer and our superiors took us to a asian massage parlor after work. We basically got a massage + happy ending hand job and he felt guilty as fuck afterward so I probably wouldn't want to do that to him on his last day of freedom.
Also his GF is one of those insanely jealous types, so definitely a no go.
The big question is would she have a sense of humor about the whole thing or flip the fuck out. Other stuff is like are any of his superiors comming? Getting humilated with friends makes for a fun story, getting humiliated with your boss makes for getting passed over on a promotion.
All in all i think for the vast majority of people they would like it or atleast take it in stride but i don't think a bunch of internet people can really tell.
For all we know everyone at that party is some die-hard christian expecting a game of texas hold em to be as risque as it gets.
LOL, YESS you NEED strippers, is this a serious question? Do you know what the wife and her friends are doing at the bachelorette party? NO! Do they know what is going on at the bachelor party? NO!
the only problem is you need more than one stripper!!
I wouldn't want a stripper at my party, it's just so fucking awkward for everyone. I would just feel sad for the girl the entire time and so would my mates.
On June 27 2011 01:48 Stenstyren wrote: I wouldn't want a stripper at my party, it's just so fucking awkward for everyone. I would just feel sad for the girl the entire time and so would my mates.
I have been to bachelor parties both with and without a stripper.
It really depends on the bachelor. Has he or does he go to strip clubs and does he enjoy that? If I am the one to organize a bachelor party for any of my friends, there are some who would be gravely disappointed if there wasn't a stripper and others who I'd expect not to care one way or they other, while others would specifically not want that sort of thing.
I assume your brother well enough to make a decision one way or the other.
At the very least you can prepare for it, and since you'll be there a few days you can plan it for the last day which will give you a couple days to see if that's something that's expected by him/the bachelor party. Then if it seems like it's something he's hoping for you can go through with it, if it isn't you can cancel or not go through with getting one.
i had a bachelor party for a friend last weekend, i´m still hung over :/ you need a stripper! it was awesome! and get one that is willing to do some nasty stuff to him, the more embarassed he is the better :D see it like this, if he forgets about his bachelor party, ever, you have failed.
Each relationship is different, and so I think it's situational. Personally, I'm of the mindset that if both parties (the future bride and future groom) are okay with the opposite person having strippers (or *whatever*) at the party, then they should both go for it.
Basically, I see no problem with it unless it's going to be a huge problem for your relationship.
What sort of question is this? Being a stripper is a job like any other; if one of your brother's friends works for Chippendales then why shouldn't he be invited? I mean, it's not li-
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. . .I see what you mean.
Seriously though, I would say don't get one. People saying "Will the wife know?" are really proving the point - you shouldn't do things that you don't want your new wife to know about. I wouldn't be all that pleased if my (hypothetical) wife had enjoyed seeing some guy get naked for her and rub his cock up in her face and if she didn't like it then what's the point? It's a lose/lose situation as far as I'm concerned.
And yeah, I was the best man for my brother and no, there was no stripper.
I'd enjoy it but I'm easy going. If you don't know, though, my advice is don't do it. And when I say "don't know" I'm talking specifically about your brother and his friends reaction.
On June 27 2011 01:29 Sajimo wrote: Hey, the last bachelor party i went to, a good friend for quite a few years, we didn't have a stripper and we really didn't need one. It depends on the type of guy your brother is and if you want her to be a main focus. Things could get a little troublesome, keeping her busy, some friends trying to get laid, awkwardness setting in the middle/end of it. Let alone the wife finding out. You've gotta know exactly what you're looking for if you bring her along. I went paintballing too and it was so much fun, specially since i stayed the cleanest . CS skills come in handy. Hope ya have a good time!!
You can just go to a strip club and solve all of that. As for the "Let alone the wife finding out"... wow, you don't keep it a secret that's just fucked up not to mention weird.
When I got married, I did not have a stripper or go to a strip club. Instead, my plan was to go out with my friends to a bar, have drinks to impair our reflexes, and go spend coins at a video arcade, something I had not done since childhood, for fun.
I find this kind of thinking juvenile, that "marriage is the end of freedom" and therefore there must be a last gasp of recklessness. My bachelor party was just a party because we were celebrating that I was getting married, it was not a last-ditch attempt to enjoy being single.
Some women will not care if their man wants to party with a stripper before marrying her, but I think it can be viewed as pretty disrespectful to the bride-to-be. It's like, is your bride not good enough for you?
It can also be viewed as harmless fun, something you won't experience after getting married (but really, once you're betrothed, it's almost the same situation as marriage, a steady committed monogamous relationship). The answer to the OP question, "is it ok," is this: "it depends." Some brides won't appreciate it, and some won't care or will even be amused by it. Most people expect that every groom wants or would enjoy the stripper, but that's not true. Some grooms would even be appalled and upset if their friends invited a stripper. So it depends on the people involved and their relationship, so it should NEVER be a surprise. That's the kind of thing that could harm friendships if you guess badly.
A lot of the above can also be reversed for bachelorette parties; some women don't want a male stripper and some grooms wouldn't appreciate their bride having one either. There's no answer for the etiquette here that applies to every couple. Neither notions of mainstream culture nor forum posts are a license to invite an unwanted stripper to a party.
It's entirely situational and it depends completely on the dynamics of the group involved and the people involved, particularly the bride since it's unrealistic to think that it wouldn't get back to her. Right now a few of my friends are planning a bachelor party for another friend and he is very adamant about not wanting to get a stripper but his little brother is pushing that we get one. It's sort of a hard decision honestly.
The real question is if you want a stripper during the party.
It's the perfect excuse, why would you care what your brother thinks? Your job is getting him insanely drunk anyway, so he probably won't remember a thing
On June 27 2011 02:32 caruso wrote: A friend of mine owns a and works in bar with a pretty much only female demograpic and he gets laid with a bride-to-be at least once a month.
wtf, what a cunt
Stripper is a good idea OP, why not :D. Should be fun, and it's only a bit of skin. Don't get laid imo.
When ppl talk about inviting strippers to their homes, I always think of that crazy Duke Lacrosse Rape case. If you don't remember the duke lacrosse players were 3 rich white kids who called for a black stripper; she later claimed she was raped in their house and went to the DA to press charges. It turned out that everything was false and the prosecutor, Nifong, even withheld evidence proving the kids innocence.
Inviting a stripper to a party seems fun. I would just video tape the incident if you were going to invite her over. It could also serve as a reminder to a great day?
Been to a party with a stripper before. Really it depends on what your moral limits are + what the stripper's personality is. I've never called for a stripper myself, but I understand that you can make requests within certain limits about what kind of girl you want.
As someone who has thrown a bachelor party it REALLY depends on the groom and the fiancee. I took my buddy up to Atlantic City for some gambling and getting wasted. No strippers were needed and everyone had a great time. Ironically, it was my wife who came up with the Atlantic City idea. On the other hand I had no bachelor party since my wife and I eloped. Having been to a couple, I didn't really miss out.
On June 27 2011 02:43 Sultan.P wrote: When ppl talk about inviting strippers to their homes, I always think of that crazy Duke Lacrosse Rape case. If you don't remember the duke lacrosse players were 3 rich white kids who called for a black stripper; she later claimed she was raped in their house and went to the DA to press charges. It turned out that everything was false and the prosecutor, Nifong, even withheld evidence proving the kids innocence.
Inviting a stripper to a party seems fun. I would just video tape the incident if you were going to invite her over. It could also serve as a reminder to a great day?
IMO the sickest part of the Duke Lacrosse case was that the school administration decided before even reviewing the evidence that they would support the stripper because she was black and they wanted their campus to come across as ethnically friendly, even going so far as to deliberately give the students faulty legal advice. Racist fucks.
Strippers are the standard/metagame for bachelor parties at this point. I personally dont need one at mine, but if I did it would surely be for all y best friends to enjoy.
I'm a Bachelor party veteran and here are some thoughts:
- a Bachelor party without a stripper sucks... because everyone expects a stripper and masses of alcohol. if something is missing at least half of the people will be pissed
- don't force the groom to take a lapdance, but don't cancel it either. let someone else sit on the chair, but definirely get a stripper
- collect money. with 10 dudes you're gonna drink at least for around 700 bucks, probably more.
Get a stripper. Get two if you can. Make it known that there is a 3 day party going on so a few girls will show up on their own. if you dont want that, rent projectors and have people bring their consoles and games in addition to movies.
My sister had a male stripper on her party, but she didn't really like it. I guess its different for females.
When we threw a party for my friend we didn't resort to strippers because he wasn't really that type of a guy. We bought him a private flying lesson on small airoplane and then went to a cabin to drink and barbeque after some cute humiliating tasks involving guitar playing for beers at a random bar.
Been to my brother's bachelor party and we had no strippers, of course we were so drunk that it probably would have been irrelevant. As far as I know, it's pretty common to hire strippers for Bachelor Parties.
I actually watched this on Urban Legends a few years ago, when a stripper was invited to a bachelor party, and the guy who was getting married ended up dead. Turns out he was suffocated to death due to lack of air while having his head inbetween her boobs...
It's ok to invite a stripper, but I wouldn't. A stripper can lead to awkward situations if people are uncomfortable with her. To be safe, do not book a stripper unless you are positive the groom is into that kind of thing.
I personally wouldn't. But it depends how you and your friends are. If they wouldn't feel comfortable with it, then it probably wouldn't be a good idea. Ask for their opinions
My brother's bachelor party also had no strippers, and we still had a kickass time. If you really have to ask if it's okay, then you should probably talk it over with the future groom and the other guys who'll be at the party. Surprises can be great but they can also be disastrous. And to everyone saying something along the lines of "this is his last night of freedom" That's a horrible way for anyone to view a marriage. These two people CHOSE to spend their lives together and trust each other. And I always thought bachelor parties were for celebrating that.
Whilst I'm not fortunate to have had a stag night yet, my housemates did get me a stripper for my 21st. I ended up covered with cream whilst she sat ON MY FACE.
But anyway, in my opinion (which lacks experience) it should be up to your brother. You know him better than we do, if he isn't into this kind of thing, then don't do it. But if he is okay with it and says it's fine, then it is his fault if his wife gets mad, not yours. It's more based on the person, not an obligation to follow tradition.
Well, coming from somebody who's seen the worst case scenario... yes, but get them somewhere reputable.
This one time, in the army, for a guy's bachelor party, the wrong guy was put in charge of planning it. To save money for booze, he hired two girls from the cheapest escort service in town for strippers, since real strippers would have charged more since they wouldn't have been expecting... supplementary income? Anyways, long story short, me and another dude decided to go to Denny's because the girls that got sent were, to say the least, not the most attractive.
Anyways, we go back by to get my car, and the cops are pulling up, apparently someone robbed the hookers, the hookers called the cops... can you say shit hit the fan? Luckily nobody ended up in jail, but it was a weird night, I think a couple of guys got the clap, too.
Why not go to a strip club? Just casually bring it up and see if anyone wants to go, if everyone says no then no prob - you didn't invest in bringing a stripper to the house. If everyone says yes, call a cab and head to the nearest strip club. If some want to go and some don't (which is the most probable situation), some guys are free to go while the others are free to just chill at the house.
After literally just coming back from a bachelor party, ITS FINE. We went to a strip club, watched the beautiful women, he got a lap dance, what's the big deal? It was a great time, why not celebrate women and sexuality before you marry? It only makes sense.
depends of the people there really, I've been to a few bachelor parties and one of them in particular was rather odd, most of the guys there were really serious (CS and tech guys mostly) and... yeah it wasn't really fun at all. I don't know if a stripper in this case would've lightened up the mood but it would've been odd really.
One thing though, if you're going ahead and planning this without the groom knowing, make sure you have someone to take responsibility yes? Like some others said, at times wives do get pissed off if they get around to know (and they always do) that there was a stripper at the party. No need to ruin a marriage before the deal is even sealed.
All in all, depends on the guys, depends on the wife.
What the hell has this world come to when men have to ask for permission to have a stripper at their own bachelor party? Sorry, just had to get that off my chest.
My suggestion? Those girls are ALL BUSINESS, and do not give you a second thought once the lap dance is over. The thing is, do you know that, and does your fiancee know that? If you can answer yes to these questions then you should absolutely get strippers at your bach. It's a rite of passage imo.
On June 27 2011 03:21 Fyrex wrote: After literally just coming back from a bachelor party, ITS FINE. We went to a strip club, watched the beautiful women, he got a lap dance, what's the big deal? It was a great time, why not celebrate women and sexuality before you marry? It only makes sense.
I understand why people do it (might myself) but I wouldn't exactly calling it making sense.
i've been to a few bachelor's party and some had a stripper, some didnt and some had 4 GIRLS entertaining us. To me this is just as bad as going to a strip club. if you think your friends soon to be wife would freak out about a night out with the boys at a joint, then forget about the stripper, unless your friend really wants it, and you guys keep it as a secret.
on a different note, some woman will tend to freak if you attend a bachelor party with feminine entertainement, meanwhile, when she decides to go out with friends, you have no say in it.
my opinion: its the last chance you have pf partying with friends, enjoy it regardless.
It would really depend on the bride and groom. Are they the type of people that would be okay with such a party? Even if they say they are, you need to use your own judgement to decide if it's the sort of thing that would harm their relationship.
I personally was the best man in my friend's wedding, and we did not hire strippers. Instead we went paintballing, had drinks for everyone as we went. We finished the day by going out to eat and sitting around talking at the table for a while. We all had a great time, and we didn't have to worry about repercussions of people that were in relationships getting in trouble for the strippers.
getting a stripper when you are about to get married it just disrespect. I cant belive that so manny people here would think its ok with strippers at all.
Why would it be ok, even if he does not sleep with the stipper? to say that a guy in a relationship has the right to pay to have naked women dance for him is a very strange way to build a relationship.
On June 27 2011 03:37 Brees wrote: it always feels lame/weird afterwards when you directly pay for sex
stick with indrectly paying for it
Sounds like you know first hand
Anyway, really, you gotta consider it this way: Would you be fine with your wife to be having a male stripper giving her a lapdance at her bachelorette party? I personally would not exactly be thrilled by the idea, so I think you should respect the bride to be enough to not get a stripper.
I havent been to one with a stripper but I wouldnt want one to be there personally.
I don't look at other girls because I am happy with my long time girlfriend and would prefer to hang out with my friends than have a stripper. For me personally im not into that kind of thing but its up to the person about to get married and the person organizing the party to know whether a stripper is ok for them or not.
At the very least let everyone know so that anyone uncomfortable with the stripper being there can go off to another room and do something else just because strippers involve a certain element of personal choice and preference as to whether they are ok or not.
Ok if your going to get a stripper you need NEED to put out the money for a good one. Don't go out and get some skanky ass gross one your going to need to put some effort into it. Also Yes you need a stripper personally I prefer one that dresses up like a cop old but good.
Yes it is. It's his last big party before "game over". If you know he likes strippers good. If you know he doesn't like strippers it's your duty as a brother to mess with him and get at least 3.
Has your brother been to strip clubs before? Does he enjoy them?
If so, then yes get a stripper. There's nothing wrong about doing it. It is tradition. It really is a good way to send a man off into wedlock. And you guys seem like you're going to party hardcore all weekend, so a stripper seems to go well with that.
I've only ever been to 1 bachelor party without strippers (out of like 5) and it was still a lot of fun (obviously chilling with your buddies is going to be a good time no matter what). But I feel like strippers is a bachelor party tradition that shouldn't be broken unless your brother is really opposed to it..
please, could someone tell me why you guys think its ok with strippers?
Its a degrading job and it is based on an old idea that women are nothing but looks. How can you think thats just fine?
I would be more ok with it if there where more male strippers and if it was just as ok for woman to hire a stripper, but honestly i dont think its a good way of looking a humans.
On June 27 2011 02:32 caruso wrote: A friend of mine owns a and works in bar with a pretty much only female demograpic and he gets laid with a bride-to-be at least once a month.
Somehow this really makes me sad, if true, to think that people who are about to be married would so easily cheat on their "beloved" mere days before their wedding, but hey, not much surprises me anymore these days.
As for the stripper, I would say no, I wouldn't want to remember my last hours of "freedom" by a unknown woman stripping which she does for a living.
I was best man for my brother's wedding but his friends got to organize the bachelor party for the most part (which made sense because they were the ones who he used to party with) You have to look at the person who the party is being thrown for and guess if they would want strippers or something like that. The most important thing for having a bachelor party isn't regretting it the day after but just being a bunch of dudes who hang out and do 'manly' things together.
Fireworks, lakehouse, beer it's all guy-ish things so I don't think you need strippers and it doesn't sound like they would be the best part of the party anyway. I'd say no need for strippers.
On June 27 2011 01:56 semioldguy wrote: I have been to bachelor parties both with and without a stripper.
It really depends on the bachelor. Has he or does he go to strip clubs and does he enjoy that? If I am the one to organize a bachelor party for any of my friends, there are some who would be gravely disappointed if there wasn't a stripper and others who I'd expect not to care one way or they other, while others would specifically not want that sort of thing.
I assume your brother well enough to make a decision one way or the other.
At the very least you can prepare for it, and since you'll be there a few days you can plan it for the last day which will give you a couple days to see if that's something that's expected by him/the bachelor party. Then if it seems like it's something he's hoping for you can go through with it, if it isn't you can cancel or not go through with getting one.
Yes. Did he ever at any point really enjoy strip clubs? Then he'll enjoy it. If not, don't do it. Pointless to worry about what the fiance would think, unless she's very controlling.
I'm not going to touch whether or not strippers are bad for society/women. Prostitution, porn, modeling, there's too many issues to consider.
On June 27 2011 04:44 Elementsu wrote: Everyone says you need a stripper before you lose your freedom, but why are you getting married if you see it as losing your freedom then?
It's just a standard line everyone repeats - it doesn't make sense. Obviously if getting are married, you haven't been sleeping around with other women in the last few months (I hope).
Why making a one night exception just to see another woman naked is okay to some people is beyond me... GRATS you saw another woman naked. +1 naked bodies to remember?
Seriously... what is the point? If you honestly love your wife, you don't need a stripper to see naked. If you really think you do need it, you're letting your sex drive control your life. Have some discretion.
On June 27 2011 04:44 Elementsu wrote: Everyone says you need a stripper before you lose your freedom, but why are you getting married if you see it as losing your freedom then?
On June 27 2011 03:46 Magenta wrote: you guys cant be serious. Its never ok to hire stripers. of course not. Especially not if you are about to get married. Grow up.
I think you should grow up.
I don't know what sort of fairy-tale marriage you imagine, but the matter of fact is that in a 10-year-relationship or marriage, around 72% of all women and 45% of all men repeatedly commit adultery.
This is not saying women are less faithfull, they just have more opportunity and like men they use it when they come by it.
On June 27 2011 03:46 Magenta wrote: you guys cant be serious. Its never ok to hire stripers. of course not. Especially not if you are about to get married. Grow up.
I think you should grow up.
I don't know what sort of fairy-tale marriage you imagine, but the matter of fact is that in a 10-year-relationship or marriage, around 72% of all women and 45% of all men repeatedly commit adultery.
This is not saying women are less faithfull, they just have more opportunity and like men they use it when they come by it.
Edit: I'm not going to waste my time commenting on this.
On June 27 2011 03:46 Magenta wrote: you guys cant be serious. Its never ok to hire stripers. of course not. Especially not if you are about to get married. Grow up.
I think you should grow up.
I don't know what sort of fairy-tale marriage you imagine, but the matter of fact is that in a 10-year-relationship or marriage, around 72% of all women and 45% of all men repeatedly commit adultery.
This is not saying women are less faithfull, they just have more opportunity and like men they use it when they come by it.
Naturally, this must be true of every civilization throughout history amirite?
If you ask me, the fact that this question is even posed is enough of a laughing stock to mankind and points to the brokenness of our society.
On June 27 2011 03:46 Magenta wrote: you guys cant be serious. Its never ok to hire stripers. of course not. Especially not if you are about to get married. Grow up.
I think you should grow up.
I don't know what sort of fairy-tale marriage you imagine, but the matter of fact is that in a 10-year-relationship or marriage, around 72% of all women and 45% of all men repeatedly commit adultery.
This is not saying women are less faithfull, they just have more opportunity and like men they use it when they come by it.
and 86% of all statistics on the internet are made up.
It is a statistical fact that my penis is 12 inches long.
I'll let you decide which side of the percent that falls in
On June 27 2011 03:46 Magenta wrote: you guys cant be serious. Its never ok to hire stripers. of course not. Especially not if you are about to get married. Grow up.
I think you should grow up.
I don't know what sort of fairy-tale marriage you imagine, but the matter of fact is that in a 10-year-relationship or marriage, around 72% of all women and 45% of all men repeatedly commit adultery.
This is not saying women are less faithfull, they just have more opportunity and like men they use it when they come by it.
Naturally, this must be true of every civilization throughout history amirite?
Of course not. In Arabian/Muslim countries women are more faithful.
On June 27 2011 03:46 Magenta wrote: you guys cant be serious. Its never ok to hire stripers. of course not. Especially not if you are about to get married. Grow up.
I think you should grow up.
I don't know what sort of fairy-tale marriage you imagine, but the matter of fact is that in a 10-year-relationship or marriage, around 72% of all women and 45% of all men repeatedly commit adultery.
This is not saying women are less faithfull, they just have more opportunity and like men they use it when they come by it.
and 86% of all statistics on the internet are made up.
It is a statistical fact that my penis is 12 inches long.
Then at least you're 54% less likely to be cheated on (this one is obviously made up).
On June 27 2011 00:56 Noob-a-tron wrote: The question is: Is it ok to invite stripper to a Bachelor party?
I am going to make a really stupid and boring answer here:
It depends upon the bride to be. I would actually ask her if she was okay with it or not. Unless you are allready kind of sure what she feels about it.
If his future wife isn't gonna let him get strippers and whores then maybe he should reexamine their relationship and see if he really knows what he's getting into.
On June 27 2011 01:18 Bibdy wrote: It depends on the group. Strippers and strip clubs aren't my thing. I'd much prefer getting drunk and playing video games with my buds. Consequently we're probably going to Dave and Busters for my bachelor party.
Why would you ever reevaluate a marriage because she is uncomfortable with a stranger rubbing her naked body up against you? What the hell is wrong with society.
There's nothing wrong with having a stripper there, but it depends on your brother. I've hosted and been at both situations and it really just depends on the people you are doing it for. Personally I wouldn't want a stripper, I would rather sit around and play games, some people really enjoy it though. You should have this discussion with him on what he wants if you don't know what he would prefer.
lol way too young to have experience with this (19) but come to think of it i did see 2 strippers already in my life. My advice : Very few reasons not to do it . Groom can blame you (best man i presume?) if his future wife finds out and as far as making an uncomfortable memory : keep in mind it`s customary for strippers to give the partyboy a special treatment (lapdance, going up very close to him while naked) , but usually the groom should get somewhat hazed at his bachelor party + the alcohol will make short work of any awkwardness. All sounds like great fun ! Enjoy!
EDIT: I might have a very good solution for you! As it seems you guys have money to burn anyway, so hire a stripper (a decent one!) and have her just show up and surprise the party. Now your brother will react in one of these three ways: 1) "hahaha awesome , you got me a stripper ! Bring it on Bitch !" You let her stay and put on a show. 2)"OMG, you got me a stripper ! Duuude that`s over the top ! What will my wife say !? Hahahha What the hell Bro, I hate you !! " He will probably still be smiling. Now here you actually have to convince him and play the bad guy tell him his wife will never find out and that it`s tradition and that he doesn`t have a choice,... trust me he will give in. 3) He starts to freak out and threatens to leave . You send her away if he clearly does not want a striptease.
You`ll feel it in the room right away what situation you landed in
I don't understand the point of strippers, tbh. How can anyone find pleasure in being sexually frustrated without being able to do anything about it? On top of having to pay more than a prostitute? I find it to be on the same level of finding a homeless man and having him pay you 50 bucks so he can see and smell a happy meal.
Personally I'd put that money towards hiring a band to play there. Cover band, original, whatever, it's up to you. It'll cost more but it's been more fun ime.
Then hit the bars and a strip club later if you want.
it's been my feeling after a few bachelor parties and fraternity parties, that it can be VERY awkward watching a stripper outside outside of the strip club setting. most people don't have a room full of black lights, and the stripper usually wants the room pretty dark. maybe we always hired shitty strippers, but i'll put it this way; every time i've been to a party with a stripper, most of us lost interest after like 45 minutes and went back to playing beer pong and flip cup.
It's perfectly fine because like everybody does it, I mean your fiance probably has strippers over at her place with her friends . I personally never understand this tradition at all.
I have attended one bachelor party, and no strippers were present. It was my cousin's and she had invited me, her mother, a lot of her female friends and my mother. We had a nice afternoon tea in a really pretty place surrounded by a beautiful garden. We talked a lot and her lifelong friends had all picked funny memories relating to my cousin and her soon-to-be husband.
Tbh if I would get married, I would feel very offended if my boyfriend would have a stripper at his bachelor's party. A last night of freedom? If I'm going to get married to anyone, we've obviously been in a monogamous relationship for quite some time, so why would it be his last night of freedom? He's not supposed to cheat anyway. If my boyfriend wants to marry me, it's because he loves me a lot (I hope:p ) and because I am enough for him. Why would he want to pay a random woman to dance around naked for him? I personally would feel very insulted about such a thing.
i would not want a stripper at my bachelorparty if i get there once in my life :D. have seen two private stripshows until now and i hated it... if my buddies want to have fun with her its ok but she should by any means stay away from me :D
On June 27 2011 05:37 nosk wrote: I don't understand the point of strippers, tbh. How can anyone find pleasure in being sexually frustrated without being able to do anything about it? On top of having to pay more than a prostitute? I find it to be on the same level of finding a homeless man and having him pay you 50 bucks so he can see and smell a happy meal.
Just sayin'.
You don't have any experience with strippers do you? Last time I went to a strip club one of my friends cheated on his wife by paying a stripper to sleep with him.
On June 27 2011 05:19 Irrelevant wrote: If his future wife isn't gonna let him get strippers and whores then maybe he should reexamine their relationship and see if he really knows what he's getting into.
Bachelorette parties typically also include male strippers, and most grooms would flip out if they knew just how much more... touching-friendly male strippers are than female strippers.
On June 27 2011 01:02 ahx wrote: Here's my question, to your question. In 2011, people still *actually* think the best way to spend their "last night of freedom" is with a girl who gets paid to rub her ass on men 5 days a week?
wtf
Well-posted dude. I agree with this. As for your original question, it always depends on the person for whom the bachelor party is being held. Definitely not a necessity in my opinion, and perhaps more respectable if there isn't a stripper. Too many people in here have watched the Hangover though... Lol.
On June 27 2011 06:58 Mastermind wrote: It isn't a bachelor party if there are no strippers. That is what makes a bachelor party a bachelor party.
Looking up a few things on the internet, which I know is not a very reliable source but hey, I find several websites claiming that a bachelor's party was traditionally a dinner hosted by the groom for his friends. Another website suggests that it began in the late Victorian ages where it was meant for a groom to have dinner with his less-respectable friends, whom he couldn't see any more after marrying. The entire idea of strippers/going to stripclubs etc. is probably not a very old idea, so it's hardly traditional.
And even if it was so, then why would it be 'needed' ? There are quite some posts in here that tell about parties to which no strippers were invited, but still were a lot of fun. Isn't a bachelors party meant to be a party prior to getting married, and just that? I think people should be able to fill in what this party means for themselves and not be told that they need to invite strippers otherwise it's not a real bachelor party.
Just ask the groom, if he doesn't want a stripper don't get one, if he really doesn't want one and you get one, its probably just going to lead to a very awkward night/weekend.
try and find a whore thou, not for your brother, but for the other 15 guys, she will make good money and after 3 days of foresting-paintballing and drinking everybody needs a chin to aim at!
I have been to (at least two, can't remember if more) bachelor parties with a stripper; I think it is ok to do so, but imho it is really overrated. I mean, you have a really nice party and all and then you get the stripper doing her show, so you more or less stop everything else that's going on, you see a naked woman (wow) and then try to restart what everyone was doing afterwards; and that is the point where all those planned shows in parties fail imho.
On June 27 2011 06:03 Mahina wrote: I have attended one bachelor party, and no strippers were present. It was my cousin's and she had invited me, her mother, a lot of her female friends and my mother. We had a nice afternoon tea in a really pretty place surrounded by a beautiful garden. We talked a lot and her lifelong friends had all picked funny memories relating to my cousin and her soon-to-be husband.
Tbh if I would get married, I would feel very offended if my boyfriend would have a stripper at his bachelor's party. A last night of freedom? If I'm going to get married to anyone, we've obviously been in a monogamous relationship for quite some time, so why would it be his last night of freedom? He's not supposed to cheat anyway. If my boyfriend wants to marry me, it's because he loves me a lot (I hope:p ) and because I am enough for him. Why would he want to pay a random woman to dance around naked for him? I personally would feel very insulted about such a thing.
On June 27 2011 07:39 AttackZerg wrote: If she is hot and willing to do a full nude yes.
try and find a whore thou, not for your brother, but for the other 15 guys, she will make good money and after 3 days of foresting-paintballing and drinking everybody needs a chin to aim at!
If you are going to go this route, you should get 3 or so... Imagine being #15 on that list......
Edit: It is a matter of preference. Most women will not have a problem with a stripper, but they won't agree to it either. If a stripper shows up at a bachelor party that is not hosted by the groom, and the bride gets that mad over it, their relationship is rocky at best.
When I get married, I would not want a stripper for me (as the groom) but I would not be mad if there were strippers for my friends n such. How often do you hang out with your brother?
I havent been to a bachelor party, but I will have to soon. My best friend is getting married and we likely will not be having a stripper at the party, his girlfriend would kill him and us if we did. I would like to assume no one would tell her what happened at the party but things always have a way of getting out...
The only correct answer is to ask your brother. Random people on TL don't know what kind of guy he is and what kind of person his fiancee is, the only two factors that matter.
I have been to several bachelor parties, including my own. None involved strippers. All of them were a really good time.
If you need a stripper to have a good time with your bros, you got problems. Think of the really fun things you like to do, and go do them on your bachelor party. Don't be forced into getting a stripper just because hollywood says you should.
Before you ask your brother, consider this: if you don't ask him and you get one, he is then "innocent" in the sense that he can't really be blamed by the bride for having a stripper at his bachelor party. If you do ask him and he wants one, then his wife would have reason to be more pissed (though I would hope she wouldn't get pissed, I mean really?).
My friend got married not too long ago and for his bachelor party, we lan'd broodwar. Beat that. Also, when we were done with that *gasp* ya.. we had to move on after the games got to be so epic.. We lan'd some oldschool Quake 1. Or was it doom 1? lol, w/e. It was fun.
Your brother is already engaged.. he's already "lost his freedom." Getting strippers is just dumb :/
On June 27 2011 09:19 Yay wrote: Before you ask your brother, consider this: if you don't ask him and you get one, he is then "innocent" in the sense that he can't really be blamed by the bride for having a stripper at his bachelor party. If you do ask him and he wants one, then his wife would have reason to be more pissed (though I would hope she wouldn't get pissed, I mean really?).
True.
I'm all for strippers that don't smell and are actually cute.
Don't tell. If at the end of three days of drinking and stinking and paint balling and ball and chain jokes, if he doesn't want a girl to grind of his cock then he has no business getting married in the first place!
Jk, but seriously at the end he like any good man about to be lost to marriage deserves a hilarious and fun experience that is 100% not his fault.
It all depends how great the invited people are at keeping secrets. There's 3 levels, 1, Very trustworthy: Invite some whores. 2, Kinda trustworthy: Invite some strippers. 3, Not trustworthy: Uninvite them.
1 is something most people frown upon, but i don't really care. 2 is a normal thing thou, but it still sucks when the wives/gfs finds out.
On June 27 2011 09:28 Aelip wrote: It all depends how great the invited people are at keeping secrets. There's 3 levels, 1, Very trustworthy: Invite some whores. 2, Kinda trustworthy: Invite some strippers. 3, Not trustworthy: Uninvite them.
1 is something most people frown upon, but i don't really care. 2 is a normal thing thou, but it still sucks when the wives/gfs finds out.
I think strippers are stupid. they are either way of blueballing yourself, or they should be called prostitutes. if they are prostitutes then I understand the purpose of them, but prostitutes should not be part of a bachelor party, at least not for the benefit of your brother.
On a side matter, I never understand what people see in strippers.
I mean you have a really hot (hopefully) girl get nude or almost nude, rub up against you for a prolonged amount of time and then ehm... NOT get laid? Like, are you serious? Especially if drunk (or if you haven't gotten lucky in like two months or something crazy) that's gotta be seriously painful.
How is that a good time? Seriously me no comprende.
But yeah, like I posted earlier, I wouldn't be paricularly happy if my wife to be had a male stripper rub his disco stick up in her face, so I can definitely see the girls getting butthurt about that. And if I were ever to marry a girl, then I would assume I were actually in love with her, and would never want to hurt her. No strippers for me. Can't see the positive side.
This is something I've never understood. If the stereotypical Hollywood bachelor party ("yeah strippers, get it now while you can bro!!") is the sort of thing you're interested in, why the hell are you getting married? Not being interested in chasing random tail anymore is sort of the whole reason he proposed to his future wife, I would think. If you had a friend who was engaged, would you take him to a strip club for his birthday with some of his other friends? No, that would be absurdly inappropriate... How is this different? Anyway, that's just my point of view. And yes, I speak from experience. At mine, for example, we rented out a pool hall and cheerfully ransacked their bar, and everyone had a great time.
It's a party with your friends. Do whatever you and your friends do to have fun. Not a complicated concept.
But as you say, this is very situational. If he wouldn't be 100% on board with it, absofuckinglutely not. If he is 100% on board with it, it's your call whether or not you want to, and on top of that it's your responsibility to make sure the rest of the party would be down with it as well. If you're planning this, your goal is to make sure everyone (especially him) has an awesome time. That is all. How his future wife feels about things is between him and her, and it's his responsibility to keep that in mind.
tl;dr: I cannot fathom why someone would both want to get married and want to hire a stripper at the same time, but that's just me. It's his responsibility to handle how his fiancee would feel. It's your responsibility to make sure that nobody has a shitty night.
28 yrs old, lake house, 15 guys, yea I would definitely get strippers. Hopefully you're all old enough to have a little fun and not guilt trip over it and start telling anyone about what happened.
I seriously don't get this whole: "YOU NEED TO GET A STRIPPER!!!" and "A bachelor party without a stripper is NOT a bachelor party..." and "I thought strippers were pretty common in bachelor parties..."
What's so "awesome" about oogling at a random naked girl lapdancing in front of you? You'll never get to sleep with her...You will at best get to touch her and she will most likely be highly disgusted of you anyway. Just go watch porn and save yourself the humiliation. IMHO, going to strip clubs or hiring strippers is the most beta thing any man can do. You are essentially window shopping a woman's body. So close yet so far...No thanks. Not for me.
That being said, this whole debate is useless as it really just depends on the bride and groom. What does he think and what would she say? Seriously OP, you can't decide without at least having an inkling of what the couple would think about all this. You guys are going there for 3 days...best option is to randomly bring up the idea of going to a strip club at some point and see how the groom reacts to this. Yay or nay?
If you can actually find a decent-looking legitimate stripper in your area, I think it's a great idea. Most bachelor parties I've gone to have been at strip clubs, one in particular because the girls are decent looking.
It does two things. One, it actually establishes trust if both fiancees know strippers will be involved. They have a lifetime to question each other, if she can't trust him around "loose" women now, then there's going to be problems. Two, it embarrasses the groom-to-be, which is good and lets you know he's somewhat honest. Or, he enjoys it immensely, in which case, there's going to be problems. It's like a litmus test.
I think it depends on your brother's fiance and if she'd be okay with it or not. Or barring that, if she would find out or not >< And obviously on whether or not your brother would be okay with it. But what guy doesn't like strippers?
On June 27 2011 09:16 LaughingTulkas wrote: I have been to several bachelor parties, including my own. None involved strippers. All of them were a really good time.
If you need a stripper to have a good time with your bros, you got problems. Think of the really fun things you like to do, and go do them on your bachelor party. Don't be forced into getting a stripper just because hollywood says you should.
You don't need them, just like you don't need to drink, sometimes it's just a fun thing to do.
At 1:10, for some reason I can't get it to start at the right time
Personally, I'd never want a stripper around. I know I sound like a stuck up faggot, but it kinda goes against the idea of the whole upcoming marriage. If a stripper showed up at my bachelor party, I'd have to send them off, or leave myself. Then again, I'd never go to a strip club either.
I kinda find it embarrassing that men pay money for that shit in general. Prostitution, I understand. Strippers, not so much.
Depending on how close you are with your friends, getting all drunk and "hardcore", I don' t see why a stripper needs to be brought in. Just bring some blindfolds if you're uncomfortable.
Isn't the default assumption that there will be strippers? Ask the bachelor. It should be his choice.
I've been to bachelor parties (and with geeks) where there were strippers and honestly, the two strippers were like, "You guys are the quietest bachelor party we've ever been to." because everyone was just like, "Uh... naked women... someone hide the settlers of catan box." and were in stunned awe.
I think it would entirely depend on the fiance, if you know her then what do you think? Do you think she'd be comfortable. Is she a strict or a nonchalant person.
My friend told me she had a great time at a bachelorette party with a male stripper. For my own bachelorette party, I'd be okay with having a male stripper, not for myself, but for my friends yknow She told me that the stripper at the party did all sorts of fun almost-sexual things so that'd be fun as long as there's no actual sexual activity involved, which would then be taking things too far. Think of them more as entertainers, not prostitutes/whores/hookers.
I'm not sure how things are done in Poland but here in Aust, it's perfectly normal to have or not have a stripper at a bachelor party. The main thing is to ask your brother whether he approves of it or not. Also, over here, they're pretty strict on the boundaries on what the stripper will and will not do, so there's definitely so sexual activity involved.
I think it's fine, so long as no harm comes from it. It's a way of celebrating that the stripper is the last person of the opposite sex the groom/bride should see before tying the knot.
For the Bachelor party I'm going to, there will be a stripper. The bride of the groom is having a male stripper at her bachelorette party. My experience is gonna be kind of awkward because the bride and grooms dad are booth going to be there.
I haven't been to a bachelor party and probably will never be, but i would definatly leave any bachelor party (including my own) as soon as strippers come through the door.
It all depends on the persons involved, if they like strippers, invite some... if they don't, don't. You shouldn't need strippers to have fun anyways.
On June 27 2011 12:12 cujo2k wrote: I think it depends on your brother's fiance and if she'd be okay with it or not. Or barring that, if she would find out or not >< And obviously on whether or not your brother would be okay with it. But what guy doesn't like strippers?
I don't like strippers. Feels like cheating imo.
Besides, it isn't that hard to find women who you don't have to pay...
Would you want a dude grinding on your girl? Especially one that does it for a living? I'd say !@#$ no and that kind of stuff is nasty. Put it in perspective, people are sold as sex slaves all around the world, what you are doing only supports that ideology of "using" women for sexual excitement.
On June 27 2011 15:27 kikimama wrote: Would you want a dude grinding on your girl? Especially one that does it for a living? I'd say !@#$ no and that kind of stuff is nasty. Put it in perspective, people are sold as sex slaves all around the world, what you are doing only supports that ideology of "using" women for sexual excitement.
He's getting married- so how does ogling a random naked chick compare to sex with the girl he supposedly loves? If you're asking the question, that seems a good indicator that's a bad idea. If you know he thinks strippers are neat, then I guess it's "ok," but still a dumb way to start a marriage. But you if you don't know, then you're risking some awkward moments at the party (either your brother or if some of the other member aren't down with strippers and weren't in the know) or later when (not if) the wife finds out. In addition, secrets between couples is a rather shaky way to begin marriage. And what's with the 'need to reevaluate your marriage, if you're future wife is not okay with strippers'? What about having consideration for the other? You will be living with them for awhile, maybe considering what they'd like every now and then might help.
If everyone one is buds, there's no fear of it being bored and a random naked chick isn't going to make things more interesting. I've been to one bachelor party and will be part of another this summer- neither did/will involve(d) strippers. We did the whole kidnap, blindfold, and shoot him with paintballs routine and afterwards all sorts of paintballing etc, etc. Call me old fashioned (or perhaps rebellious if strippers are tradition), but it's absolutely unnecessary to have strippers.
On June 27 2011 16:11 Falling wrote: Call me old fashioned (or perhaps rebellious if strippers are tradition), but it's absolutely unnecessary to have strippers.
I agree. I specifically forbid people to bring one to my bachelor party. I've been to some parties where strippers were involved and there are a couple observations I made: 1. The chick usually isn't that hot. 2. By the time she arrives people are already drunk and don't give a damn. 3. It's a waste of money for few minutes of doubtful fun.
LOL @ the lack of guys that like strippers... so much fail.
Damn right your mate wants to see a hotty naked for perhaps the last time in his life (until the inevitable divorce in 20 years )
But if you gonna do it, do it in style. Get an apartment in the city, hire a couple of topless waitresses for a few hours followed by a girl on girl show towards the end of the night. Thats what myself and the bestman did for our mate, everything was going bloody awesome though until... the buck got so wasted he picked up the stripper and fell over, the stripper injured her back and had to sit down, but she was cool, didn't just bail which she could have.
But that's not all - the night goes on and the double girl show arrives, everything is going sweet, the buck is chillin on the couch as the girls start the show, then what does he do, emptys his cup of water on top of her!!! LOL they left within 10 minutes of getting there. $1000 down the drain, they werent even naked yet
he will never live that night down for the rest of his life lol
It's the crazy nights that you all remember for the rest of your life.
Of course its expensive but if you get enough mates to chip in its not that much.if you can't afford all that just hang out with ya mate and have a good night
EDIT: if there is a stripper, make it a surprise and check out the big ass grin on ya mates face when he sees her!
On June 27 2011 19:06 badboymav wrote: Damn right your mate wants to see a hotty naked for perhaps the last time in his life (until the inevitable divorce in 20 years )
So you claim that his wife is neither hot nor will he ever see her naked?
Reading this thread makes me lose faith in humanity... again...
On June 27 2011 19:28 Termit wrote: I don't know, for me it sounds like you're gonna have a great time without the stripper anyway so I see no point in having one there.
The thing is that with a stripper you could have an awesome time!
I personally would be upset if there wasn't a stripper at my bach party. Sounds like you've got a fucking amazing weekend planned, but at the end of a long day having the time of your life with a dozen doods, you'll be craving a splash of female entertainment.
And that's the key. Its entertainment. Having a woman bump and grind on you for 15 minutes isn't cheating, and if the bride-to-be thinks it is, she needs to re-evaluate her idea of a trusting relationship.
One facet of why I am so in love with the girl I am currently building a house/future with is that she is not a jealous person. Didn't bag me out when I told her I was going to the strip club with a few lads, understands and allows me to go out to drink/dance with other girls, because she knows that I am constantly concious of our dedication and love for each other. I personally would find it hard to love someone that didn't trust my judgement, and dedication to the relationship. Of course this is a two way street. In my opinion, jealousy doesn't have any place in a relationship. I will have a stripper at my bucks, and I will still go to the strippers once in a blue moon after I'm married. Strippers are often VERY strict on what you can do with them/what they will do anyway. Strippers in stripclubs (here in Aus, anyway) don't allow you to rub/touch with your hands. If they want you to touch them with your hands, they will grab your hand and put it on their skin themselves. Privately hired strippers are often less strict, however it is the responsibility of your brother to keep himself in check.
TL;DR: If the relationship is built on trust and dedication (as it should be, getting married and all) it isn't a question of ethics. Its a question of whether or not your brother would want a stripper.
On June 27 2011 01:13 Ceril wrote: ...Dont go for hardcore partying your heads off. Go for the fun things. You'll have plenty of time to get wasted togheter in the years to come, dont celebrate some glorified culturual ideal you celebrated when you were 16.
Is a stripper realy what a man thats been ringed by this most amazing woman needs? He is free, but booze and lots of talk about freedom and pressure might make him think he is not. He has already freely given himself to her, to be married, to have only her. Dont make it out he is somehow going to be less free. Some words in a church just makes their relationship legaly binding.
I agree with this. Unless they both(people getting married) don't mind. Also some other members of the party might have angry girlfriends.
It isn't a hood party unless hookers, guns, and drugs are involved. Considering you want a hardcore party... you might want to look into hiring some drugged up hookers with guns.
Lets not forget that Strippers aren't free... you could completely get the stripper thing off your mind and do something else with the couple hundred dollars you saved.
I personally like what Couches suggested, even though it does sound cheesy + Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2011 05:53 couches wrote: Personally I'd put that money towards hiring a band to play there. Cover band, original, whatever, it's up to you. It'll cost more but it's been more fun ime.
Then hit the bars and a strip club later if you want.
--- No real stripper-related experience, other then the common knowledge of their prices.
For me a stripper is like masochism, you can see but you can't touch. You just stay there with a bunch of guys looking at the pretty girl.. it's kinda ridiculous!
The last time i went to a bachelor party we went to a stripper club, had a few drings, saw a few asses and went home! Was it worth it? not really...
People with wifes/girlfriends will probably get in trouble if they lie because soon or later the girls will know and it will leak..
Best plan is if strippers and gonna come or you went and there was strippers just tell the truth.. some girls came in, showed some boobs and ass and left! Nothing happened, end of story.
If you lie and they get to know the problem will be 10 times worse, because you lied and now they will think that someone must have happened because you lied.
Ive only had one experiance with a stripper and it was funny as, was my mates twenty first and the whole pub chipped in for a stripper since he's the bouncer, the look on is face was priceless he went so red and it was the women who seemed most interested pushing to the front to see him get the lap dance, only problem was she was ugly as sin! If you do it make sure you get a good quality one. Admittedly its not for everyone i personally would feel really awkward in his shoes.
And to people saying its degrading to women lol! Some pervy dudes pay you a crap load of money just to show some flesh? sounds to me like does guys just got hussled imo.
Personally, I don’t want strippers at my bachelor party. Never been big on them.
Taking that into account, your brother might not want them either.
Does he go to strip clubs often? Has he ever mentioned having them at his bachelor party? If he doesn’t want them there then it may make him feel uncomfortable if you bring one. People can say whatever they want but some people just don’t like them, or the idea of having them at the party. You could ruin the night or make it really awkward for a moment if he does not want anything to do with a stripper. I would ask him lest you do something he does not want.
If he often entertains himself with strippers and whatnot at the strip club, then it will probably be fine by him.. I would still ask him to avoid doing something that makes him uncomfortable.
It's your brother, you need to know whether that's something he'd enjoy that would fit in with the weekend. I've been to multiple bachelor parties, both with and without strippers and all I can really tell you is that it's all about your brother. Some guys seriously just don't enjoy strippers (don't give me any "all guys secretly love strippers" bullshit here, some guys seriously don't enjoy them) and it's really just about making sure your brother has a good time. And hell, if it's iffy, just flat out ask him ahead of time. Better to deal with that question before a stripper shows up :p.
I've seen marriages ruined because the wife found out about a stripper being at a bachelor party, and she will find out. Starting out in a marriage like that probably isn't the best thing imo.
Seriously sounds like some people have a real fucked up view on marriage or are with some insanely controlling women. All this "it's destroy the marriage before it even starts" seriously if your woman is that crazy and uptight maybe it's for the best that you ruin it instead of coming to the realization of her 10 years later when she leaves you and takes half plus the kids.
A wise man once said, "All woman are whores, the only difference is the price."
I would be interested if everybody who said that strippers are "natural", "necessary" or even "obligatory" for Bachelor/ette parties bases that on their own experience. I have been to (only) four bachelor parties and there never were any strippers. And if there had been any I think it would just have been awkward.
OT: Sure its "okay." It depends on the crowd - on the bachelor in particular.
I think you have a great party planned. Add in lots of meat for a great barbecue and some more entertainment options for downtimes and you are good to go. Maybe you could rent a boat or something - since you are at a lake?!
Has your brother ever mentioned that he doesn't want strippers/has anyhing against them etc? If not, then obviously you should get one (or more). Most probably he knows that's normal for bachelor parties, and had he not agreed, he would have said that.
Without the stripper, it's not a bachelor party. It's some guys hanging out and drinking. Without chicks. Therefor, the stripper is not for the guy getting married - she's there to make sure the night will not be dull. Anyways, if the future wife has a problem with it, she wants her husband on a leash AND does not trust him, does not believe he loves her enough, and so on - and therefor you'd be doing him a favor. Oh, and a single stripper is so 1990s. 3+ strippers FTW.
On June 27 2011 20:25 BatesC wrote: Lets not forget that Strippers aren't free... you could completely get the stripper thing off your mind and do something else with the couple hundred dollars you saved.
I personally like what Couches suggested, even though it does sound cheesy + Show Spoiler +
On June 27 2011 05:53 couches wrote: Personally I'd put that money towards hiring a band to play there. Cover band, original, whatever, it's up to you. It'll cost more but it's been more fun ime.
Then hit the bars and a strip club later if you want.
--- No real stripper-related experience, other then the common knowledge of their prices.
Why would a band sound cheesy. People hire bands all the time for private parties and weddings. They pay well too, from a band member point of view.
I think the question is really if your brother would enjoy it. I would not enjoy it personally, it is frustrating and I would feel bad for my fiance even if she does not know.
On June 27 2011 23:39 RedKnight83 wrote: I've seen marriages ruined because the wife found out about a stripper being at a bachelor party, and she will find out. Starting out in a marriage like that probably isn't the best thing imo.
I've never been to a bachelor party without a stripper, and in all cases the wife already knows about it. That's what happens at bachelor parties, so what? Why would the wife care? A lot of guys I know are married and still allowed to go to strip clubs.
It's not a big deal to have a stripper at a bachelor party, it's like having a birthday cake at a birthday party. Some people don't like cake. Most do.
How is this even a debate? If he will like it GET IT if he doesn't DONT GET IT. Its a bachelor party women will understand and if shes that uptight that she doesnt want it he probably wont want to get it so DONT GET IT. Plain and simple.
if he respects his future wife then no, dont get a stripper. He should be committed to his fiance not tempting himself. No wonder divorce rate is near 60%
It really depents on the brother and the group of friends that is hanging out with, obviously due to the polarized discussion, both group exists.
So there isn't a right and wrong, and don't do it just for the sake of "tradition". Ask around, if he truly likes it, you don't have to worry about ruin the "surprise", it's better be safe than sorry.
On June 28 2011 00:22 SuperYo1000 wrote: if he respects his future wife then no, dont get a stripper. He should be committed to his fiance not tempting himself. No wonder divorce rate is near 60%
If you're going to have any strippers show up, make sure there's a bunch. One stripper has a chance of being boring with 15+ guys sitting around. 3-5 strippers can only be a great time.
On June 28 2011 00:22 SuperYo1000 wrote: if he respects his future wife then no, dont get a stripper. He should be committed to his fiance not tempting himself. No wonder divorce rate is near 60%
Then wouldn't it be called a committed to your fiance party? The very idea of a bachelor party is unnecessary. It's all about whether you'd do something for fun, not excluding when you're a little tipsy.
I'm currently engaged, and i would definitely not want a stripper at my bachelor party. I plan on having some buddies over for beers and lanning. I wouldn't want to hire strippers after being married, and it shouldn't be any different right now. I respect other peoples decision to hire them at their parties, but I would never feel right.
On June 28 2011 00:22 SuperYo1000 wrote: if he respects his future wife then no, dont get a stripper. He should be committed to his fiance not tempting himself. No wonder divorce rate is near 60%
This isn't a question of respect. Grow a pair
It is if his fiancée is against it. Otherwise knock yourself out.
I feel like it's ALL about respect for your fiance, especially if she isn't going to find out. If your fiance usually gets really mad when girls get naked and rub their boobs in your face (fiance's usually get mad at this), then obviously it's a bad idea.
I guess it comes down to one question: Would you be mad if some dude at your fiance's bachelorette party was slapping his banana-hammocked junk up against your girl's chin while her friends cheered him and her on?
On June 28 2011 02:42 Mohdoo wrote: I'm currently engaged, and i would definitely not want a stripper at my bachelor party. I plan on having some buddies over for beers and lanning. I wouldn't want to hire strippers after being married, and it shouldn't be any different right now. I respect other peoples decision to hire them at their parties, but I would never feel right.
It's completely different. At a bachelor party, someone else hires the strippers to entertain everyone. It's not like your buddies hire strippers to sit around and listen to you be committed to your fiance. If you don't want a lap dance you can be boring and everyone else will have a good time. I think you're missing out if you think hiring strippers is cheating on your future wife.
On June 28 2011 02:59 Meatt wrote: I feel like it's ALL about respect for your fiance, especially if she isn't going to find out. If your fiance usually gets really mad when girls get naked and rub their boobs in your face (fiance's usually get mad at this), then obviously it's a bad idea.
I guess it comes down to one question: Would you be mad if some dude at your fiance's bachelorette party was slapping his banana-hammocked junk up against your girl's chin while her friends cheered him and her on?
If you would be mad, that's your insecurity rearing its head, not your fiance lacking respect for you. These parties are about having a good time and the sight of strippers doing ridiculous things is funny. Have you ever been to a bachelor party with strippers? Was there ever anything that looked/felt sexual involved between the stripper and the future groom? It's all fun and games and they're a real crowd-pleaser.
all of you kids complaining about how disrespecting it is to get a stripper need to grow up! as an adult, you will come to realize that it's all in good fun, it's just for entertainment. the fiance won't like it, but they know what's happening and will not believe you if you don't have a stripper anyways. so just do it!!!
On June 28 2011 02:42 Mohdoo wrote: I'm currently engaged, and i would definitely not want a stripper at my bachelor party. I plan on having some buddies over for beers and lanning. I wouldn't want to hire strippers after being married, and it shouldn't be any different right now. I respect other peoples decision to hire them at their parties, but I would never feel right.
It's completely different. At a bachelor party, someone else hires the strippers to entertain everyone. It's not like your buddies hire strippers to sit around and listen to you be committed to your fiance. If you don't want a lap dance you can be boring and everyone else will have a good time. I think you're missing out if you think hiring strippers is cheating on your future wife.
Like I said, I don't look down on others for it, but I wouldn't feel comfortable. There are plenty of ways to enjoy yourself without strippers :p
On June 28 2011 02:59 Meatt wrote: I feel like it's ALL about respect for your fiance, especially if she isn't going to find out. If your fiance usually gets really mad when girls get naked and rub their boobs in your face (fiance's usually get mad at this), then obviously it's a bad idea.
I guess it comes down to one question: Would you be mad if some dude at your fiance's bachelorette party was slapping his banana-hammocked junk up against your girl's chin while her friends cheered him and her on?
If you would be mad, that's your insecurity rearing its head, not your fiance lacking respect for you. These parties are about having a good time and the sight of strippers doing ridiculous things is funny. Have you ever been to a bachelor party with strippers? Was there ever anything that looked/felt sexual involved between the stripper and the future groom? It's all fun and games and they're a real crowd-pleaser.
I guess it IS all fun and games, I guess I'd just rather choose different games for fun with my friends. It just seems a little ...off, to have that be the normal thing that guys do the night before one of them marries the love of his life lol.
On June 28 2011 03:26 Duke wrote: well a prostitute is fine too. just don't fuck her. instead, try and see how many hotdogs she can shove in her vagina.
Actually, I have an even better idea. The case about bachelor parties is making the groom look bad right? So arrange for him to strip at a "ladies" strip club, and have HIM strip for the ladies. That would make for awesome. Also, you need to write "Can't touch this" somewhere clearly visible on him.
Do get some drinks for it beforehand though, and also, get a pink bunny costume for the paintball event, and have everyone against him. He gets a paintball pistol, and for every shot he takes, he has to take a shot after the round.
On June 28 2011 04:44 dupshflayh wrote: Actually, I have an even better idea. The case about bachelor parties is making the groom look bad right? So arrange for him to strip at a "ladies" strip club, and have HIM strip for the ladies. That would make for awesome. Also, you need to write "Can't touch this" somewhere clearly visible on him.
Do get some drinks for it beforehand though, and also, get a pink bunny costume for the paintball event, and have everyone against him. He gets a paintball pistol, and for every shot he takes, he has to take a shot after the round.
Yes, no?
haha thats an awesome idea will be saving that one in my notepad for the next time one of my mates gets married:D
If I was the married guy I will like to have a striper at my bachelor's party so I will definitively invite one for my bro's! Now I'd like a poll with idea for "funny stuff to ask to a striper" !
On June 28 2011 09:23 Drium wrote: Based on what I've read here so far I sure feel sorry for the current and future wives of many tlers.
My brother is getting married in a few weeks and yes, there are going to be some boobies at his stag. His fiance knows this, she just doesnt want to hear about it. The fact is, a fully trusting woman will let it go and just wont want to hear any details. she should trust her future husband that its eyes only.
lets not pretend like women's stagette parties arent risque as well...
The trust argument doesn't make much sense to me. Trust you to do what? Get horny from some other naked girl other than her? Why not say that wives should trust their husbands to sleep around, but still come back to sleep with her? It's seems a rather misplaced form of trust.
There is another form of trust- trust that neither will entertain strippers or sleep around. That is both are fully confident it will never happen and therefore aren't hassling and second guessing each other. Funny idea right? But what do I know? As someone else wrote in this thread: 'marriage is a joke.'
Stagette's might not be risque free, but there is no reason it needs to be risque anymore than a bacholor party.
But really the point is moot. As a couple (yes a couple- any sort of long-term relationships is going to involve mutual decisions, starting considerably earlier than the day of marriage. Furthermore, if it's "of course the woman won't be ok with it"... then maybe there is an inherent flaw with the idea)... anyways as a couple are they okay with it? If yes, then it's a go, if no, then don't. ez.
Its not like you're going to stick your dick in the stripper... So if the bride has an issue with it then she likely has security issues and if the groom has an issue with it he's probably whipped (or just way too reserved).
The whole purpose of a bachelor party is for one last night of no restrictions fun before making a lifetime commitment. Lots of alcohol and a stripper are a necessity.
On June 28 2011 10:54 Curu wrote: lol it seems like everyone posting in this thread from Australia is heavily in favour of getting strippers.
You horny Aussies...
No we're just liberal enough to understand that you can look at and appreciate the appearance and sexuality of a member of the opposite gender without sticking your dick inside it.
And in general our women aren't feminazis who think strippers are the devil's work, so it is socially acceptable to have strippers are a bachelor party here.
Heck, last bachelor party I went to there were strippers and a... performer. Basic gist of it she sat down on one of those orange cones and got it halfway inside of her. You could have fit a bowling ball inside that thing it was amazing. The coming week after all the women heard of the events at the party nobody cared, all just had a good laugh.
Its not like you're going to stick your dick in the stripper... 1 So if the bride has an issue with it then she likely has security issues and if the groom has an issue with it he's probably whipped (or just way too reserved).
The whole purpose of a bachelor party is for one last night of no restrictions fun before making a lifetime commitment. 2 Lots of alcohol and a stripper are a necessity.
Strippers = Yes. Hookers = No no no.
I disagree. From my experience, once you fall in love, you socially and impulsively should be infatuated with your love enough that paid strippers and porn holds less in your eyes (I haven't been to a bachelor party).
1 Well, I would not watch porn or invite strippers if I was in love. It just feels very out-of-place and distrustful. Why would I ogle at a pretty girl if I had a girlfriend? How would you feel if your girlfriend had a girls night and invited a really handsome guy? I'd feel insufficient, like I'm not enough for her.
2 See 1, I just don't think a stripper is necessary to get you all riled up and crazy. There are some pretty sick parties where a bunch of guys can have a great time without any girls (Not mentioning the alcohol, that is pretty damn important).
What the hell? I'm amazed at how many people actually think this is okay. You are purposely engaging in sexual activities with someone other than your significant other, and your wedding is around the corner. There is no reason for a stripper to be present.
Crap like this is why divorce rates are so high these days.
On June 28 2011 02:42 Mohdoo wrote: I'm currently engaged, and i would definitely not want a stripper at my bachelor party. I plan on having some buddies over for beers and lanning. I wouldn't want to hire strippers after being married, and it shouldn't be any different right now. I respect other peoples decision to hire them at their parties, but I would never feel right.
so, im trying to be reasonable and understand everyone's opinions and all but seriously... read the above statement, thats something you do on ANY random tuesday night... whether you get strippers or not, bachelor's parties are supposed to be special. something way out of the norm and something you will pry never do again. hence why alot of people do things like bring strippers.
on a sidenote, who hides the fact that strippers are invited? if you cant tell your woman that one is going to be there bc your afraid of her... you need to cut your relationship short. life is WAY too long to stay g-rated forever. not only would i tell my fiance(i already have) that i intended to bring strippers. i, on the opposite side of the coin am fine with it. because at the end of the day.i know what bed shes coming back to.(Mine) and i more than trust her enough to be out by herself. so if your afraid to tell her/may not like her response bc she doesnt trust you. sorry, your doomed to fail.
long story short. do something special, whether is strippers or not. but dont do something retarded like 'have an all night lan" or just go to the bar. you can do that any night of the week for the rest of your life. do something unforgettable, whether its crazy or not.
On June 28 2011 10:54 Curu wrote: lol it seems like everyone posting in this thread from Australia is heavily in favour of getting strippers.
You horny Aussies...
fucking love Aussies! they have their priorities in line.
-Kangeroos
-Fosters
-Strippers
Fosters is an export only, nobody here actually drinks that piss. Just FYI
On June 28 2011 11:11 Kinetik_Inferno wrote: 1 Well, I would not watch porn or invite strippers if I was in love. It just feels very out-of-place and distrustful. Why would I ogle at a pretty girl if I had a girlfriend? How would you feel if your girlfriend had a girls night and invited a really handsome guy? I'd feel insufficient, like I'm not enough for her.
To me that just screams "SECURITY AND SELF CONFIDENCE ISSUES".
Watching porn feels distrustful when you're in love? Porn and love are completely separate things, you can be sexually attracted to something without being in love with it. Humans are biologically attracted to members of the opposite sex (or in case of homosexuals, same sex). Your body does not stop releasing those hormones just because you're in love. That feeling of guilt is likely a result of: 1) Strict (possibly religious) upbringing where sex was demonized and only portrayed in a negative light 2) Previous or current relationships that involved sever trust issues or lack of self worth.
Secondly, if your partner is open and honest with you and tells you there was a guy at the party, what is the issue? Its not like she was jumping in bed naked with him.
Same logic long as you're not sleeping with the stripper and you're open and honest with your partner and tell them that there was a stripper there should not be an issue unless there are deeper underlying issues in the relationship (such as trust, security etc.)
Its not like you're going to stick your dick in the stripper... 1 So if the bride has an issue with it then she likely has security issues and if the groom has an issue with it he's probably whipped (or just way too reserved).
The whole purpose of a bachelor party is for one last night of no restrictions fun before making a lifetime commitment. 2 Lots of alcohol and a stripper are a necessity.
Strippers = Yes. Hookers = No no no.
I disagree. From my experience, once you fall in love, you socially and impulsively should be infatuated with your love enough that paid strippers and porn holds less in your eyes (I haven't been to a bachelor party).
1 Well, I would not watch porn or invite strippers if I was in love. It just feels very out-of-place and distrustful. Why would I ogle at a pretty girl if I had a girlfriend? How would you feel if your girlfriend had a girls night and invited a really handsome guy?
This seems a little naive, but let's be fair. Poll time!
Edit: Let's define "be in love" as loving your significant other, so it can't just be interpreted as the first few weeks/months/years of a relationship.
Edit2: Should probably keep track of how girls respond and how guys respond, since there's a lot of evidence of statistically different responses, but it's too late now.
Poll: Would you watch porn if you were in love?
Yes (28)
88%
No (4)
13%
32 total votes
Your vote: Would you watch porn if you were in love?
Its not like you're going to stick your dick in the stripper... 1 So if the bride has an issue with it then she likely has security issues and if the groom has an issue with it he's probably whipped (or just way too reserved).
The whole purpose of a bachelor party is for one last night of no restrictions fun before making a lifetime commitment. 2 Lots of alcohol and a stripper are a necessity.
Strippers = Yes. Hookers = No no no.
I disagree. From my experience, once you fall in love, you socially and impulsively should be infatuated with your love enough that paid strippers and porn holds less in your eyes (I haven't been to a bachelor party).
1 Well, I would not watch porn or invite strippers if I was in love. It just feels very out-of-place and distrustful. Why would I ogle at a pretty girl if I had a girlfriend? How would you feel if your girlfriend had a girls night and invited a really handsome guy?
This seems a little naive, but let's be fair. Poll time!
Poll: Would you watch porn if you were in love?
Yes (28)
88%
No (4)
13%
32 total votes
Your vote: Would you watch porn if you were in love?
Hell yes I would watch porn if I was in love. Because sex and love are different things.
You watch porn because it is arousing, not because you're in love with the porn star. I love my girlfriend like there is no tomorrow but I still watch porn on occasion, heck sometimes we even watch porn together. Why? Because it promotes sexual openness in the relationship, gives us new ideas to explore and ways that we can keep a happy and healthy sexual relationship instead of just having missionary position with the lights off once a week.
I've been to a few of bachelor parties and a couple of them had strippers. I also have a couple of stripper friends (one male and one female). I'm going with the moderate view and say it's dependent on the bachelor and his wife. The bachelor party is supposed to be fun, so if you guys think it's fun, then go for it.
On a side note, I think people are confusing strippers with hookers and call girls. You obviously don't pay strippers to get laid. In my experience, most of them are students who want to pay off their college education. And around here, they get paid very, very well ($800 for 30 min/1hr act?). If they feel comfortable with you guys, they might stay and have a few drinks. But they are all about business. Most do not allow touching. And if they allow touching it's only certain parts. So please do not try to get too "friendly" with them, especially if you're inebriated. (Usually, I'm the sober one, so I had to literally beg a stripper once not to report one of my friends for "friendliness".)
As for getting laid during your bachelor party: bad idea. That is potentially marriage destroying. In my experience, girls tend to do it more than guys i.e. ONS (usually they have security issues). I've heard it happen before (with a girl) and she married, the guy found out, and now she's having to deal with a divorce one year after her wedding.
Its not like you're going to stick your dick in the stripper... 1 So if the bride has an issue with it then she likely has security issues and if the groom has an issue with it he's probably whipped (or just way too reserved).
The whole purpose of a bachelor party is for one last night of no restrictions fun before making a lifetime commitment. 2 Lots of alcohol and a stripper are a necessity.
Strippers = Yes. Hookers = No no no.
I disagree. From my experience, once you fall in love, you socially and impulsively should be infatuated with your love enough that paid strippers and porn holds less in your eyes (I haven't been to a bachelor party).
1 Well, I would not watch porn or invite strippers if I was in love. It just feels very out-of-place and distrustful. Why would I ogle at a pretty girl if I had a girlfriend? How would you feel if your girlfriend had a girls night and invited a really handsome guy? I'd feel insufficient, like I'm not enough for her.
2 See 1, I just don't think a stripper is necessary to get you all riled up and crazy. There are some pretty sick parties where a bunch of guys can have a great time without any girls (Not mentioning the alcohol, that is pretty damn important).
Not watch porn if you're in love? This is obviously coming from a person who has never been in a long term relationship. Doesn't matter how much you love a person, you're still going to get bored and be attracted to other women. As long as you don't get intimate with any of them, who cares if you're looking at porn or going to strip clubs?
To answer your question, almost every girl I know or date watches porn, and it doesn't make me feel inadequate in the least. Why should it?
Nothing will EVER beat one of my friend's Bachelor party, in which he, by his squad in the military, was pantsed, bound with masking tape, tied to a stokes litter (the rescue basket for helicopters), and had his pubic hair shaved. They wrote sex instructions to his wife-to-be on his stomach and thighs in green sea dye. He was then carried into multiple strip clubs with the ugliest dancers, and forced to receive multiple sexual acts. It was pretty epic to say the least.
On June 27 2011 01:18 Bibdy wrote: It depends on the group. Strippers and strip clubs aren't my thing. I'd much prefer getting drunk and playing video games with my buds. Consequently we're probably going to Dave and Busters for my bachelor party.
This, more than anything. I doubt I'd appreciate a stripper at my own bachelor party either - I'd rather hang out. A stripper would just create stress and guilt in the back of my mind and make me not have fun at my own bachelor party either.
I've been to a couple bachelor parties, but none of them have had strippers - they really aren't necessary to have a great time. The group of friends I associate with has a much more fun time when the party is about booze and games than booze and girls.
To join the chorus, it depends on the bachelor. Strippers are by no means mandatory, and it's entirely possible to have a rippin' party with no peelers.
I organized my brother's bachelor party three weeks ago. Given his character (and that of his friends), I knew a stripper would just make things awkward. Instead we played paintball (while making him wear a wig and drink rum – both very important), then went for cocktails at a fancy hotel, out for dinner at a nice place and then to a succession of bars.
On the other hand, if your bachelor is the kind of guy who likes strippers, by all means line some up. I think a good rule of thumb here is to find out if he's been to a strip joint before the party. If yes, then I think you'd be wise to get 'em. If no, then pass.
A bachelor party without a stripper is just a regular party, not a bachelor party. In regards to the poll, definitely would watch porn even if I was in love. Like has been said before, sex and love are two different things, and neither are requisite of the other.
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but in my situation my brother is getting married in 2 weeks, he is 28, IT worker, so we decided to rent a house next to a lake and around 15 of his friends (very little from work, mostly from highshool and univeristy) will come for a 3 day long party (Males only ofc). We already prepared a kick ass paintball game in a forest+field nearby and also some movies displayed on the highest wall of the house. Also gonna get lots of booze and some fireworks to let ppl living nearby know we are there ;D We are all preparing for truly extreme hardcore partying so I really dont want to make any stupid decisions or assumptions and in the worst case spoil the fun.
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