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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
February 09 2005 20:57 GMT
#41
gg_hertzz I'll make a movie about you. You can even star in it, ok? Here's my idea: I hook you up to a car battery and jab forks in your eyes. I'll leave all the deeper meaning up to you, ok?
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
February 10 2005 10:02 GMT
#42
Brood, you're predictable and boring. Your whole approach to disproving me is by and large dependant on insults, lame jokes, and subterfuge. You can be a vengeful twat if you want, I don't really care. I would rather like BR for what it is, rather than not like it for what it isn't. I don't need to take a course on how to enjoy a movie.

Asshole.
SiS
Profile Joined June 2004
United States753 Posts
February 10 2005 10:08 GMT
#43
I loved this movie

But I like all kinds of violent movies especially Takashi Miike's works (Koroshiya Ichi, Visitor Q, Audition)

I'm not sick or perverted or anything, I just understand that none of it is real and then its very easy for me to watch and to like :O

btw, did you notice the part where the girls were shooting at each other was taken from Reservoir Dogs?
If you suddenly become to have twelve sisters, what do you think?
Refrain[FriZ]
Profile Joined June 2003
Canada4337 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-10 10:14:19
February 10 2005 10:13 GMT
#44
I read it

Liked it so much I downloaded it and watched it.

Hated the movie.

Loved the book.

:edit: the Chigori girl that was in it (also in kill bill movie, the japanese school girl with a mace vs. the bride) who is very pretty =]
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-10 10:25:42
February 10 2005 10:14 GMT
#45
gg_hertzz, you're so funny when you're all riled up! Listen, I could care less about film arguments on the internet. Too many idiots just google somsone else's ideas, and then inflate them with verbose, masturbatory dick cheese. They have no conception of how translucent their charade is, nor that anyone with even a tentative foundation in reality knows that you can't just say whatever you want and label it "your interpretation".

I'll leave you with the words of someone far smarter than I (slightly paraphrased):

"I guess I just don't get it. I come from a world where people do something for a reason. I didn't really get French New Wave, but I know I liked it. I don't get films like that, but I know I don't like them. You know... shit, by any other name, smells just as bad."

- Martin Scorsese (about, specifically, Battle Royale)
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
February 10 2005 10:15 GMT
#46
On February 10 2005 19:08 SiS wrote:
I loved this movie

But I like all kinds of violent movies especially Takashi Miike's works (Koroshiya Ichi, Visitor Q, Audition)

I'm not sick or perverted or anything, I just understand that none of it is real and then its very easy for me to watch and to like :O

btw, did you notice the part where the girls were shooting at each other was taken from Reservoir Dogs?

Not only that, many parts of the movie were taken directly from Anime.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
February 10 2005 10:16 GMT
#47
I heard the book is a lot better. :O
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-10 10:33:45
February 10 2005 10:22 GMT
#48
Versus is better.

Watch Versus. ^_^

No plot and several decapitations within the first 3 minute of the film!!
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-10 10:24:45
February 10 2005 10:23 GMT
#49
It has senseless violence and almost no plot.

BR 2 has double the violence and half of the plot of BR 1.

Great movies though.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Ryshi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada361 Posts
February 10 2005 10:30 GMT
#50
Is the book a comic or just plain english text? How thick is the book?
The World God Only Knows
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
February 10 2005 10:31 GMT
#51
On February 10 2005 19:14 BroOd wrote:
gg_hertzz, you're so funny when you're all riled up! Listen, I could care less about film arguments on the internet. Too many idiots just google somsone else's ideas, and then inflate them with verbose, masturbatory dick cheese. They have no conception of how translucent their charade is, nor that anyone with even a tentative foundation in reality knows that you can't just say whatever you want and label it "your interpretation".

I'll leave you with the words of someone far smarter than I (slightly paraphrased):

"I guess I just don't get it. I come from a world where people do something for a reason. I didn't really get French New Wave, but I know I liked it. I don't get films like that, but I know I don't like them. You know... shit, by any other name, smells just as bad."

- Martin Scorsese


Who says I'm riled up? The fact that you say something like that gives credence to your predicability. It's the sort of thought people who talk and think through repetition would come up with during the half way point of any argument. I'm just as calm now as when I was brushing my teeth this morning. Perhaps I'm missing the point. Maybe you're just incapable of forming original lines of dialogue. Your strict adherence to film making edicts is certainly persuasive and indictive of that. The fact that nothing you say is beyond what I don't normally hear or read, almost verbatim, from anonymous mono-faceted schlubs who grandstand to indoctrinate their superior views speaks volumes about you. To think that you could have altered the course of this thread if you were not so hesitant (insecure?) or tardy (incapable?) to enlighten me with more than just your ability to regurgitate juvenile banters.
SiS
Profile Joined June 2004
United States753 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-10 10:36:04
February 10 2005 10:33 GMT
#52
On February 10 2005 19:30 Ryshi wrote:
Is the book a comic or just plain english text? How thick is the book?


its a novel, but I've never heard of it being translated into English

edit: or maybe it was http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/156931778X/102-8059334-0316130
If you suddenly become to have twelve sisters, what do you think?
insaneknights
Profile Joined January 2005
482 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-10 10:36:40
February 10 2005 10:36 GMT
#53
Its already been trasnlated into english. Its around 600 pages long. The book tells the story more fully.The book also expresses their emotions and fears better than the movie.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
February 10 2005 11:00 GMT
#54
hertzz, let it go and move on. No amount of dictionaries could help you out here. You've convinced yourself that there's some eloquent message behind this macabre little circus of violence, and there's nothing I can do to change your stubborn little mind. Fuck, I don't know, maybe you found Jesus somewhere in this movie. Maybe you're just a fucked up little brat looking for an argument. What I do know is that this film is no grand statement about love, survival or human nature. It's an exploitation film at it's most basic level, and at it's most complex, it's nothing more than convoluted entanglement of failed possibility. I never said it was a bad movie, but it's not the magnificent slice-of-society pie you've built it up to be.

If you want violence as a message, check out Sam Peckinpah (Wild Bunch). If you want to watch a character's spiral into madness, check out John Cassavettes(A Woman Under the Influence or Roman Polanski (Rosemary's Baby). If you want characters finding out about themselves, you have the entire French New Wave. There are hundreds of great films that convey emotion without exploiting your senses with bullets and buckets of blood. Heck, even John Woo's Hong Kong stuff had more meaning than BR. There are so many things to say, but I get the feeling you'd rather be right than actually learn something.

Although, after all this, I guess I do see the connection between LOTF and BR. LOTF was everything that BR wanted to be, but failed at.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
gg_hertzz
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
2152 Posts
February 10 2005 11:17 GMT
#55
The last word is yours brood.

I enjoyed BR-in spite of what Martin Scorsese says.
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-10 11:30:39
February 10 2005 11:23 GMT
#56
On February 10 2005 20:17 gg_hertzz wrote:
The last word is yours brood.

I enjoyed BR-in spite of what Martin Scorsese says.


I also enjoyed it. It's ok to enjoy something that isn't amazing. Hell, you can enjoy shit that just plain sucks. (See: 95% of American horror). I just don't think it's right to intellectualize a film like this so you can justify enjoying it.

I guess we can just agree to disagree. I'd be glad to entertain a civilized discussion on film anytime, though.

EDIT: I always feel so damn unproductive after flame fests like these. Let me apologize for being so immature. If you've honestly found deeper levels to this film, perhaps you're just more intune or estute than I am. Either way, I think we both need to be less uptight.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
February 10 2005 11:38 GMT
#57
On February 09 2005 23:39 insaneknights wrote:
What about battle royale 2. I heard that i sucked but i want a second opinion!


Well I really liked the first one, but the 2nd one was so-so ... not the same coolness at all.
ModeratorFather of bunnies
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
February 10 2005 11:39 GMT
#58
On February 10 2005 20:38 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2005 23:39 insaneknights wrote:
What about battle royale 2. I heard that i sucked but i want a second opinion!


Well I really liked the first one, but the 2nd one was so-so ... not the same coolness at all.


The second one was absolutely HORRIFIC. An abomination. The director of the original only shot a few scenes before passing away, and his hack son came along and fucked everything up. AVOID THIS FILM.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
rplant
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1178 Posts
February 10 2005 11:52 GMT
#59
On February 10 2005 19:22 Mindcrime wrote:
Versus is better.

Watch Versus. ^_^

No plot and several decapitations within the first 3 minute of the film!!


Is this anything like Versus? I kind of want to see it if only to find out what the hell a "convoluted entanglement of failed possibility" could be. But Versus was really painful. I have no idea where some of my friends come find with shit like that. Ughhhhh.
Believing in God is like believing in a teapot orbiting Mars (Edit: wow I was a douche in 2003)
Caution
Profile Joined September 2004
2059 Posts
February 10 2005 19:51 GMT
#60
boy that movie was crap -_- it was a budget movie ~.~
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