EPTIf you guys ever get a change watch or read it.
Wont be dissapointed.
Battle Royale
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insaneknights
482 Posts
If you guys ever get a change watch or read it. Wont be dissapointed. | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
Crappy popular nonsensical shit. Poor actors, extremely poor story - didn't make sense in any way. Though it's just my personal opinion of course.. :/ | ||
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MaGnIfIcA
Norway2312 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
Who the hell would also condone it as a game? Too farfetched, so the only thing that can make a movie like this good is good fx and good acting or sideplots, but all this sucked too. | ||
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insaneknights
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shizuru
Japan570 Posts
On February 09 2005 23:39 Luhh wrote: The biggest problem with the movie is that it has no base what so ever! In no future would that ever happen. Who the fuck would tolerate that your children are deported and slaughtered for petty crime and shitty attitude? Who the hell would also condone it as a game? Too farfetched, so the only thing that can make a movie like this good is good fx and good acting or sideplots, but all this sucked too. its a "what if" movie. think war of the worlds or pretty much any genre other than drama and this applies. its even an allegory much like animal farm. things in japan between adults and children are to an extent like that in japan, so you take that idea and put it in a what if situation of do or die. stories do this all the time. to make a point or to make it dramatic. in this case, it was melodramatic. it's just up to you how you respond to it. but where it failed for you, for many others it has worked. personally, im sick of movies that are like standard dramatic plays. such as beautiful mind and mllion dollar baby(although theyre okay) character growsinch by inch and change, yes, but everything is nauseatingly explained, all cause and effect, too grounded in reality. i believe the characters all have believable backgrounds and behaviors. we all know people like that in real life, the nerd, the jock etc. it just goes in a highly imaginative doomsday setting. i like the imagination this film has. | ||
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Breavman
Sweden598 Posts
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Locked
United States4182 Posts
we just took it for a funny movie where kids kill each other in ridiculous ways -.-V | ||
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tiffany
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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dork
Canada2207 Posts
On February 10 2005 00:02 Locked wrote: my friends and i saw battle royale and we didn't try to analyze its deeper meaning or whatever we just took it for a funny movie where kids kill each other in ridiculous ways -.-V sometimes it's good to just watch stupid shit happen | ||
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jtan
Sweden5891 Posts
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ChroNoCrosS
Sweden13 Posts
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MoogleSATx
United States439 Posts
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fbs
United Kingdom2476 Posts
hadn't heard anyone talk about it (years ago now..) and it blew me away! Battle Royale 2 is one of the worst films I've ever seen.. avoid! | ||
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karelen
Sweden2407 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33629 Posts
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x2fst
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Triton
Canada258 Posts
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baal
10708 Posts
but very entretaining and a must see only because there isnt a movie as violent as Battle royale.... It would be cool a hollywood produced one  | ||
BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
Half way through this movie, you know exactly what's going to happen. Sure, it's cool to actually watch it unfold with Fukasaku's (RIP) cool visuals, but afterwards it just felt entirely too predictable. | ||
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baal
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Resonate
United Kingdom8402 Posts
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gg_hertzz
2152 Posts
I like BR because it's engagingly self-opposed-it doesn't let you take it too seriously but it never lets you forget the brutal honesty of the needs that take root in our primeval desires. | ||
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
On February 10 2005 02:29 gg_hertzz wrote: Brood. If it's superficial, it's only because you're use to swimming in the shallow end. The depth of this movie are many fathoms beyond what the average film buff can comprehend. It's a tale of love and compassion-locked up in a not so implausible premise. If the philosophical meanderings escape you then you can blame that on the pretentious Hollywood drivel that abjectly fail to honestly portray the dark side of human behaviour. I like BR because it's engagingly self-opposed-it doesn't let you take it too seriously but it never lets you forget the brutal honesty of the needs that take root in our primeval desires. Hahahahaha. Good lord, don't quit your day job, Ebert. Do you really think sticking kids on an island with weapons and forcing them to kill each other has anything to do with depth and "philosophical meanderings"? This wasn't a bold statement about human nature, or the will to survive, it was typical, spoonfed, bullshit posturing that people like you eat up in fistfulls. Love and compassion? The brutal honesty of the needs that take root in our primeval desires? Sure thing, and Dude, Where's My Car? is about a teenager's eternal, futile struggle for universal approval. You don't know me, or what I watch, so save the half-witted jabs for your fellow mathletes. If you honestly found "depths" of meaning in this film, it's only because you're the one who has absolutely no conception of how a great film can convey emotion. I don't blame you for being ignorant, but I do when you go out of your way to be a dick about something you obviously have no frame of reference for. | ||
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gg_hertzz
2152 Posts
I don't know what you watch, but from what you've written, you sound like an uppity pup waiting for a citizen kane prequal. And since when did emotion, or the provocation of it, become the yardstick for good cinema? BR portrays a raw microcosm of society. Plain and simple. If anything, it's an ATYPICAL movie-and that's what people appreciate about it. | ||
Liquid`Drone
Norway28814 Posts
it's entertaining but not good I watched it with my class in school :D | ||
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baal
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Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
On February 10 2005 03:24 gg_hertzz wrote: Mindless stab in the dark #1. If you're going to be condescending, it usually helps to have some basis for your idiotic claims. What's your idea of a good movie? Excellent lighting and a script rife with obscure witticism? I don't know what you watch, but from what you've written, you sound like an uppity pup waiting for a citizine kane prequal. Mindless stab #2. An uppity pup? Nice slam, gramps. That said, any shred of credibilty flies out the window when you take jabs at Citizen Kane. I know you'd love to believe you're the only person who understands the poor, tortured foreign directors whose lofty ideas fly over us silly roundeye Americans, and we all fawn over American cinema needlessly, but you really just look like an arrogant cocksucker. And since when did emotion, or the provocation of it, become the yardstick for good cinema? Only since the beginning of narrative film, as anyone with any basis in film study would tell you. BR portrays a raw microcosm of society. Plain and simple. So do countless other films. I guess Mean Girls rocketed to the top of your list too, huh? If anything, it's an ATYPICAL movie-and that's what people appreciate about it. Oh, well there's a reason to give give it a A++ if I've ever heard one! Hurray for something being marginally different!The only depths I can't fathom here are the ones you'll go to to prove you're smart. Pity all you're doing is spouting shit you can't back up because you don't understand it. | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
ahahahaha... | ||
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
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baal
10708 Posts
On February 10 2005 03:59 BroOd wrote: Haha, I could beat him with the pot lid =] lol | ||
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Luhh
Sweden2974 Posts
On February 10 2005 03:59 BroOd wrote: Haha, I could beat him with the pot lid =] Would you cheese rush him with some replay of earl grey you saw or will you go bamboo green teah fast push? Perhaps hop in the pot and wall yourself in is the safest opening.. I dunno. | ||
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
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gg_hertzz
2152 Posts
If you're going to be condescending, it usually helps to have some basis for your idiotic claims. Yeah, that's powerfully put. It's funny that you should mention condescension but then go on to discredit my taste in movies. Haha, I could beat him with the pot lid Just make sure you don't swing too hard-you might hit the kettle on the back burner. An uppity pup? Nice slam, gramps. That said, any shred of credibilty flies out the window when you take jabs at Citizen Kane And all my doubts of you being a film student, formal or not, has completed dissipated. I don't care if you think you know more about the ligaments of a movie more intimately than the rest of us, you still don't have a right to tell me what I can and can't interpret from a movie. You can tell me if a movie had good lighting, appropriate seques and casting-but only when hell becomes the frozen tundra will you have the right to tell me what I'm suppose to feel and what message I'm suppose to get from a movie. I know you'd love to believe you're the only person who understands the poor, tortured foreign directors whose lofty ideas fly over us silly roundeye Americans, and we all fawn over American cinema needlessly, but you really just look like an arrogant cocksucker Insinuations and inferences. Believe it if you think it makes your argument stronger. So do countless other films. I guess Mean Girls rocketed to the top of your list too, huh? Clever. Well, not really-since it's just a rehash of every other joke you've managed to churn out in this pitiful rant. Tell me, during film study, did they ever cover the units that dealt with the positive qualities of originality or were those lecture notes lost and buried? The only depths I can't fathom here are the ones you'll go to to prove you're smart Do you even read the things that you write? You sound like stringent snob with a penchant for mindless frenzies. | ||
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CTStalker
Canada9720 Posts
if you ask me, it was all that fat kid with crossbow's fault. | ||
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SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Battle Royale is a cheesy have fun movie, if it has any depth or whatever, i missed it but anyone who can't enjoy a cheesy have fun movie needs to get their shit loosened up. And this is coming from a film study geek... cept I haven't really had time to keep up with cinema as of late. | ||
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kandyman
Swaziland665 Posts
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
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gg_hertzz
2152 Posts
Asshole. | ||
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SiS
United States753 Posts
But I like all kinds of violent movies especially Takashi Miike's works (Koroshiya Ichi, Visitor Q, Audition) I'm not sick or perverted or anything, I just understand that none of it is real and then its very easy for me to watch and to like :O btw, did you notice the part where the girls were shooting at each other was taken from Reservoir Dogs? | ||
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Refrain[FriZ]
Canada4337 Posts
Liked it so much I downloaded it and watched it. Hated the movie. Loved the book. :edit: the Chigori girl that was in it (also in kill bill movie, the japanese school girl with a mace vs. the bride) who is very pretty =] | ||
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
I'll leave you with the words of someone far smarter than I (slightly paraphrased): "I guess I just don't get it. I come from a world where people do something for a reason. I didn't really get French New Wave, but I know I liked it. I don't get films like that, but I know I don't like them. You know... shit, by any other name, smells just as bad." - Martin Scorsese (about, specifically, Battle Royale) | ||
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
On February 10 2005 19:08 SiS wrote: I loved this movie But I like all kinds of violent movies especially Takashi Miike's works (Koroshiya Ichi, Visitor Q, Audition) I'm not sick or perverted or anything, I just understand that none of it is real and then its very easy for me to watch and to like :O btw, did you notice the part where the girls were shooting at each other was taken from Reservoir Dogs? Not only that, many parts of the movie were taken directly from Anime. | ||
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
Watch Versus. ^_^ No plot and several decapitations within the first 3 minute of the film!! | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
BR 2 has double the violence and half of the plot of BR 1. Great movies though. | ||
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Ryshi
Canada361 Posts
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gg_hertzz
2152 Posts
On February 10 2005 19:14 BroOd wrote: gg_hertzz, you're so funny when you're all riled up! Listen, I could care less about film arguments on the internet. Too many idiots just google somsone else's ideas, and then inflate them with verbose, masturbatory dick cheese. They have no conception of how translucent their charade is, nor that anyone with even a tentative foundation in reality knows that you can't just say whatever you want and label it "your interpretation". I'll leave you with the words of someone far smarter than I (slightly paraphrased): "I guess I just don't get it. I come from a world where people do something for a reason. I didn't really get French New Wave, but I know I liked it. I don't get films like that, but I know I don't like them. You know... shit, by any other name, smells just as bad." - Martin Scorsese Who says I'm riled up? The fact that you say something like that gives credence to your predicability. It's the sort of thought people who talk and think through repetition would come up with during the half way point of any argument. I'm just as calm now as when I was brushing my teeth this morning. Perhaps I'm missing the point. Maybe you're just incapable of forming original lines of dialogue. Your strict adherence to film making edicts is certainly persuasive and indictive of that. The fact that nothing you say is beyond what I don't normally hear or read, almost verbatim, from anonymous mono-faceted schlubs who grandstand to indoctrinate their superior views speaks volumes about you. To think that you could have altered the course of this thread if you were not so hesitant (insecure?) or tardy (incapable?) to enlighten me with more than just your ability to regurgitate juvenile banters. | ||
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SiS
United States753 Posts
On February 10 2005 19:30 Ryshi wrote: Is the book a comic or just plain english text? How thick is the book? its a novel, but I've never heard of it being translated into English edit: or maybe it was http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/156931778X/102-8059334-0316130 | ||
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insaneknights
482 Posts
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
If you want violence as a message, check out Sam Peckinpah (Wild Bunch). If you want to watch a character's spiral into madness, check out John Cassavettes(A Woman Under the Influence or Roman Polanski (Rosemary's Baby). If you want characters finding out about themselves, you have the entire French New Wave. There are hundreds of great films that convey emotion without exploiting your senses with bullets and buckets of blood. Heck, even John Woo's Hong Kong stuff had more meaning than BR. There are so many things to say, but I get the feeling you'd rather be right than actually learn something. Although, after all this, I guess I do see the connection between LOTF and BR. LOTF was everything that BR wanted to be, but failed at. | ||
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gg_hertzz
2152 Posts
I enjoyed BR-in spite of what Martin Scorsese says. | ||
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
On February 10 2005 20:17 gg_hertzz wrote: The last word is yours brood. I enjoyed BR-in spite of what Martin Scorsese says. I also enjoyed it. It's ok to enjoy something that isn't amazing. Hell, you can enjoy shit that just plain sucks. (See: 95% of American horror). I just don't think it's right to intellectualize a film like this so you can justify enjoying it. I guess we can just agree to disagree. I'd be glad to entertain a civilized discussion on film anytime, though. EDIT: I always feel so damn unproductive after flame fests like these. Let me apologize for being so immature. If you've honestly found deeper levels to this film, perhaps you're just more intune or estute than I am. Either way, I think we both need to be less uptight. | ||
ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
On February 09 2005 23:39 insaneknights wrote: What about battle royale 2. I heard that i sucked but i want a second opinion! Well I really liked the first one, but the 2nd one was so-so ... not the same coolness at all. | ||
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BroOd
Austin10833 Posts
On February 10 2005 20:38 ToKoreaWithLove wrote: Well I really liked the first one, but the 2nd one was so-so ... not the same coolness at all. The second one was absolutely HORRIFIC. An abomination. The director of the original only shot a few scenes before passing away, and his hack son came along and fucked everything up. AVOID THIS FILM. | ||
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rplant
United States1178 Posts
On February 10 2005 19:22 Mindcrime wrote: Versus is better. Watch Versus. ^_^ No plot and several decapitations within the first 3 minute of the film!! Is this anything like Versus? I kind of want to see it if only to find out what the hell a "convoluted entanglement of failed possibility" could be. But Versus was really painful. I have no idea where some of my friends come find with shit like that. Ughhhhh. | ||
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Caution
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