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Dice.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States78 Posts
June 10 2011 03:02 GMT
#101
With the way it is worded, the correct answer is definitely 1/3.
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neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
June 10 2011 03:04 GMT
#102
On June 10 2011 11:55 oxidized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 11:52 Steel wrote:
but this thread has been an overall bad experience.
I know, right?!?!?!? What the hell is it with people getting so worked up about math. Remember the whole 0.999...=1 proofs? God, I don't get why people get so worked up over this stuff. X_X

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On June 10 2011 11:51 Warpath wrote:
Guys, the answer is 1/2
It's either he gets Zerg, or he doesn't.

HAHAHA, nice one!


Reminds me of this


Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
June 10 2011 03:05 GMT
#103
On June 10 2011 11:55 oxidized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 11:52 Steel wrote:
but this thread has been an overall bad experience.
I know, right?!?!?!? What the hell is it with people getting so worked up about math. Remember the whole 0.999...=1 proofs? God, I don't get why people get so worked up over this stuff. X_X

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On June 10 2011 11:51 Warpath wrote:
Guys, the answer is 1/2
It's either he gets Zerg, or he doesn't.

HAHAHA, nice one!


Actually I think mathematics are amazing...when they are used properly.

These threads ALWAYS turns into a wording argument. It's frustrating. Like that 1/2*5=? bullshit. There's no right or wrong answer because the wording the problem itself is too ambiguous so people just argue for goddamn ever!! ARHGHH!!!

I'm fed up with this bullshit!
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ye.
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TheBJ
Profile Joined March 2010
Bulgaria906 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 03:11:24
June 10 2011 03:06 GMT
#104
On June 10 2011 12:02 Dice. wrote:
With the way it is worded, the correct answer is definitely 1/3.


The way he worded clearly states the answer is 1/3 indeed.

So I was playing random today, and I played 2 games of Starcraft 2!

I played as Zerg at least once. What is the probability that my other game was as Zerg as well?


The way you stated it , you played one game as zerg. The question you ask is what is the chance u play as zerg the 2nd game which is still 1/3. ZzZzZ
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ArcticFox
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1092 Posts
June 10 2011 03:07 GMT
#105
This whole post and thread reminds me of http://xkcd.com/169/

Srs bzns note: I thought it was 1/3 as well rather than 1/5. It seems to be very ambiguously worded -- then again, I always sucked at the verbal part of standardized tests.
Synergy
Profile Joined October 2010
United States90 Posts
June 10 2011 03:11 GMT
#106
It's like saying I flipped a coin 15 times and it was heads 15 times whats the chance of getting heads on the 16th try and the probability is 1/2. You can get zerg 30 times in a row the next game the probability of zerg will still be 1/3
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Synapze
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada563 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 03:14:38
June 10 2011 03:14 GMT
#107
Lol OP didn't think this one through.
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IBeta
Profile Joined July 2007
United States77 Posts
June 10 2011 03:15 GMT
#108
I think the question is all messed up man. You said you played as zerg AT LEAST once, so that's saying you played as zerg once, which is the minimum.

so at MOST the chance is 1/3 becuz you asked if you played AS zerg and the choices are Terran, Protoss, and Zerg. Correct me if I'm wrong and explain it better, lol. I want to know
Melancholia
Profile Joined March 2010
United States717 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 03:18:24
June 10 2011 03:17 GMT
#109
You almost ask two different questions here, the phrasing is terrible. It should either be "I played as Zerg at least once. What is the probability that in both games I was Zerg?" or "I played as Zerg in one game. What is the probability that my other game was as Zerg as well?"

"My other game" implies that you are only asking about the odds of that one game *given* that you were Zerg in the first game.
Hamster1800
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States175 Posts
June 10 2011 03:19 GMT
#110
On June 10 2011 12:11 Cryllic wrote:
It's like saying I flipped a coin 15 times and it was heads 15 times whats the chance of getting heads on the 16th try and the probability is 1/2. You can get zerg 30 times in a row the next game the probability of zerg will still be 1/3


That is unrelated to the question that the OP was asking. He is not saying ``I played my first game today as random and got zerg. What is the probability that I was zerg in the second game, too?''. He is saying ``I played two games today, and I will tell you that I was zerg at least once. Knowing that, what is the probability that I was zerg twice?''.

Many of the other posters in the past page or two have had the same misunderstanding.

For those of you who will say that I originally said that the problem was ambiguous, I will say that if someone gave me this problem I would first say 1/5, then say, ``but you should be careful about how you word the problem in the future, because...''. The ambiguity in this problem is very close to being nonexistent, and most of the people in this thread missed the actual ambiguity and are actually completely misunderstanding the question.
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piegasm
Profile Joined August 2010
United States266 Posts
June 10 2011 03:20 GMT
#111
On June 10 2011 12:15 jesse20ghet wrote:
I think the question is all messed up man. You said you played as zerg AT LEAST once, so that's saying you played as zerg once, which is the minimum.

so at MOST the chance is 1/3 becuz you asked if you played AS zerg and the choices are Terran, Protoss, and Zerg. Correct me if I'm wrong and explain it better, lol. I want to know


He's asking what the odds are that he got Zerg BOTH games. The way the question is worded it looks like he's asking what the odds are that he'd get Zerg in a single game.
Ghoststrikes
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1356 Posts
June 10 2011 03:26 GMT
#112
On June 10 2011 12:20 piegasm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 12:15 jesse20ghet wrote:
I think the question is all messed up man. You said you played as zerg AT LEAST once, so that's saying you played as zerg once, which is the minimum.

so at MOST the chance is 1/3 becuz you asked if you played AS zerg and the choices are Terran, Protoss, and Zerg. Correct me if I'm wrong and explain it better, lol. I want to know


He's asking what the odds are that he got Zerg BOTH games. The way the question is worded it looks like he's asking what the odds are that he'd get Zerg in a single game.


Exactly. The way it's worded you can just totally ignore ONE of 2 games, and give the probability of the other gane, which is 1/3.
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Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 03:27:41
June 10 2011 03:26 GMT
#113
Ignore this
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
June 10 2011 03:29 GMT
#114
I don't understand how people can know the paradox, see that it's worded in the exact same way (i.e. purposely ambiguous) and still argue that it's for sure one or the other.
Ghoststrikes
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1356 Posts
June 10 2011 03:30 GMT
#115
The thing is PvZ/ZvP and ZvT/TvZ are the same in this problem, cause you do know that at least 1 match was Z, so it's 1/3 and not 1/5.
Never say die
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 10 2011 03:30 GMT
#116
lol, as been said based on the wording of the question the answer is 1/3.

Based on what he was supposed to be saying it's 1/5.

But yeah. Word your questions better otherwise you look like the fool. :\
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Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
June 10 2011 03:30 GMT
#117
It is clearly 1/4 cause he can be Zerg, Protoss, Terran or Random trololol.
iSTime
Profile Joined November 2006
1579 Posts
June 10 2011 03:39 GMT
#118
Man people ITT are really bad at probability.
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DragonDefonce
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States790 Posts
June 10 2011 03:39 GMT
#119
You are treating PZ and ZP separate. That's not correct. If one of your game was played as zerg, then the probability of getting any one of the races on the other is 1/3.

1/5 would be the answer if the Bnet server tells you that you are about to play two games, and it will make it so that you play zerg at least once. In that case, PZ and ZP would be different, but in this case, they are the same.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 10 2011 03:42 GMT
#120
On June 10 2011 12:30 Tektos wrote:
It is clearly 1/4 cause he can be Zerg, Protoss, Terran or Random trololol.

1/4 + (1/4)(1/3) = 1/3
Nice try
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