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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
Most of the videos aren't available in the store anymore, so you can just get them via tpb. Anyways, I'm looking for an uncomplicated, affordable way to get a decent metal sound. Preferably via one pedal only, using my full tube amp (Blackstar HT5 stack) and Fender SSH Stratocaster. I know 'Metal sound' is a rather loose term, but I don't quite know how to phrase it. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26035 Posts
 You have any bands or tones that you'd like to vaguely emulate?I'd say probably add a decent tubescreamer to your chain. Blackstars in my experience can get good metal tones even going just through the amp, but that'll be at the expense of versatility. I'm actually a big fan of their amps and was looking to purchase one in the near future, how do you find yours? Depending on what pickups and stuff are in your Strat that'll make a big difference. I like those guitars, but they're not really hot enough, even the humbuckered variants for hitting most modern metal tones | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26035 Posts
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
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rezoacken
Canada2719 Posts
On January 04 2014 05:27 lilwisper wrote: I am a super noob to guitars, so I would like an honest opinion on a guitar. Recently I have been interested in getting that Rocksmith game so I came to this thread to look for opinions. While here I happen to watch one of the videos that featured Rob Chapman and Lee Anderton reviewing guitars and the like. One of the videos happened to show off the new Fender Lonestar Strat. There was a solo at 9:50 of said video that made me have that "Wayne's World O' Yes She Will Be Mine" moments. I know a lot of that tone had to do with the Marshall amp he was using, but I was wondering if anyone had experience with a Lonestar? I know a lot of folks are split on buying a cheap first guitar vs buying one that inspires you to play it. For $600 or so, it wouldn't be a super big hit to my finances if I save up for it. I would have to figure out a good amp for it since the amp Rob used for the solo is a $1400 gig amp. I've started learning and own Rocksmith. I think it's a very good addition to normal lessons. I think it's a bit lacking by itself (mainly it lacks teaching good habits or specific techniques for a song or theory). But as a training tool for finger placement, speed, picking the right string, getting used to frets etc it's a fun way to spend the hours of practice imo. You still have to practice by yourself because the game is very forgiving for notes and especially chords. Like you can validate chords by only having half of them sound correctly. So it's important to spend some hours outside of the game with your amp and make sure you get the right sound. Like what I suggest is to find a riff you like in the game, practice it there first and once you know the notes train by yourself to make it sound as good as you can. As for getting a first guitar, can't help you. If I had the budget I would have bought something a lot better but this will have to wait for me to work full time. I still think 2000$ is overkill for starting an hobby but if it's nothing for you, why not. | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On January 04 2014 06:01 rezoacken wrote: I've started learning and own Rocksmith. I think it's a very good addition to normal lessons. I think it's a bit lacking by itself (mainly it lacks teaching good habits or specific techniques for a song or theory). But as a training tool for finger placement, speed, picking the right string, getting used to frets etc it's a fun way to spend the hours of practice imo. You still have to practice by yourself because the game is very forgiving for notes and especially chords. Like you can validate chords by only having half of them sound correctly. So it's important to spend some hours outside of the game with your amp and make sure you get the right sound. Like what I suggest is to find a riff you like in the game, practice it there first and once you know the notes train by yourself to make it sound as good as you can. As for getting a first guitar, can't help you. If I had the budget I would have bought something a lot better but this will have to wait for me to work full time. I still think 2000$ is overkill for starting an hobby but if it's nothing for you, why not. Cool thanks for the info on Rocksmith. I probably should have been more clear that I don't think that the $1400 gig amp (the one that was in the video was a Marshall JVM 210c) was the best choice for me, so I would probably have to find a different amp. I guess the main thing is that there are soooooooooooooooooo many choices and I just have to do more research. | ||
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Kaos_StarCraft
Australia92 Posts
On January 04 2014 05:27 lilwisper wrote: I am a super noob to guitars, so I would like an honest opinion on a guitar. Recently I have been interested in getting that Rocksmith game so I came to this thread to look for opinions. While here I happen to watch one of the videos that featured Rob Chapman and Lee Anderton reviewing guitars and the like. One of the videos happened to show off the new Fender Lonestar Strat. There was a solo at 9:50 of said video that made me have that "Wayne's World O' Yes She Will Be Mine" moments. I know a lot of that tone had to do with the Marshall amp he was using, but I was wondering if anyone had experience with a Lonestar? I know a lot of folks are split on buying a cheap first guitar vs buying one that inspires you to play it. For $600 or so, it wouldn't be a super big hit to my finances if I save up for it. I would have to figure out a good amp for it since the amp Rob used for the solo is a $1400 gig amp. As far as cheap guitars go you could start here: + Show Spoiler + If you want to go the other route and buy a guitar that's going to "inspire" you to play the only real consideration is budget. However there is a chance you will waste money needlessly on gear that doesn't suit you for various reasons. I'll tell you about my experiences as a self-taught player who started out as a professional drummer; As your playing level improves so will your ears. This means your tonal tastes may change (perhaps a little perhaps a lot) over time and you may come to dislike the first lot of gear you bought. Not only will your ears change but your hands will change too. You will start building strength, stretch, finger preference and playing style all of which will contribute later on to knowing what you like/don't like in a guitar. I would personally recommend that you buy something second-hand and play the living shit out of it. That way after X amount of time when you go to buy new gear you will have a much clearer picture of what you want. Which should hopefully equate to being a better investment. | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On January 04 2014 07:36 Kaos_StarCraft wrote: As far as cheap guitars go you could start here: + Show Spoiler + If you want to go the other route and buy a guitar that's going to "inspire" you to play the only real consideration is budget. However there is a chance you will waste money needlessly on gear that doesn't suit you for various reasons. I'll tell you about my experiences as a self-taught player who started out as a professional drummer; As your playing level improves so will your ears. This means your tonal tastes may change (perhaps a little perhaps a lot) over time and you may come to dislike the first lot of gear you bought. Not only will your ears change but your hands will change too. You will start building strength, stretch, finger preference and playing style all of which will contribute later on to knowing what you like/don't like in a guitar. I would personally recommend that you buy something second-hand and play the living shit out of it. That way after X amount of time when you go to buy new gear you will have a much clearer picture of what you want. Which should hopefully equate to being a better investment. You have a big point about my playing level. Right now I can honestly say I don't know what is exactly proper save for certain things being totally obviously bad. I can only go by what I am initially enjoying to hear. I am sure I will have to visit a local store several times to get an even better picture (sounds over video will be a lot different than in person). With second hand equipment, I have to make sure I have a more knowledgeable guitar player with me correct? | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
That is so sad! | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On January 10 2014 03:42 SixStrings wrote: How is it that this thread has ten times fewer views than the programming thread? That is so sad! It's easier to copy-paste a bunch of code on an Internet forum rather than help with instrument position here ;D | ||
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
For a bit of fun the clerk had a Strat with Texas Specials in it (it was SSS so we just focused on the neck and mid pickups). They happened to have a Marshall JVM 210c, so he plugged it in and played it a little. First off, I can see why its a $1400 amp, it sounded soooooooo nice. I am glad I went down to listen because hearing it live is a lot different, even more so than I gave respect too. I know I am being fairly unscientific with this comparison since the actual guitar would be even more different, but just to have an idea to start was good. So with that Marshall being far, far off my radar, what are some of the amps you kind folks use? | ||
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renoB
United States170 Posts
On January 10 2014 05:37 lilwisper wrote: So with that Marshall being far, far off my radar, what are some of the amps you kind folks use? Mesa Triple Rectifier. You should listen to a lot of different amps and discover what you like most. How much are you looking to spend on an amp? | ||
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Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
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SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
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lilwisper
United States2515 Posts
On January 10 2014 05:43 renoB wrote: Mesa Triple Rectifier. You should listen to a lot of different amps and discover what you like most. How much are you looking to spend on an amp? I plan to listen to many amps once I have the actual guitar to examine. It had to be ordered. I am guessing my price range for amps would be around $200-300. $400 might not be out of the question since I did plan to budget $1k for it all. I was going to steer clear of pedals for now since I am sure that's one of the more addicting parts of playing. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26035 Posts
Also my internet has near died, I can just about get on TL, but fellow Brood War theme contributors, I have finally almost gotten it done! | ||
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renoB
United States170 Posts
I'm not the best to ask for that price range, as I haven't looked into smaller practice amps. But I know blackstar makes a really really nice little tube amp, and I'm pretty sure its in that price range. On another note, I just purchased 4 iStomps. I had never heard of them but my uncle just showed them to me and he's replacing all his pedals with them. They're on sale for $40 on musicians friend if anyone's interested. I figure I can use one for my delay, the other reverb and then have 2 for whatever effects I want to add or change. I'm going to run through all the different ones with my other guitarist when they get in so I'll give a review. | ||
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