EPTOn May 02 2011 21:44 Moxi wrote:
nice. hope he did suffer to death.
nice. hope he did suffer to death.
Well i think hiding for 10 years in those countries isn't fantastic either
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Keep it civil guys. Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans. The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally. Confirmation was as follows - On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive. - photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis - confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan. This thread is specifically dedicated to the details surrounding the raid/his death. | ||
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Vain
Netherlands1115 Posts
Well i think hiding for 10 years in those countries isn't fantastic either | ||
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BasedSwag
Algeria418 Posts
On May 02 2011 21:44 Sceptor87 wrote: Yes. Because of him. If he didn't attack the WTC, Pentagon, or United 93 in 2001 Canada wouldn't be in the middle of a guerrilla war. My friends wouldn't get out of high school and join the military to get college funding and get killed. My cousin wouldn't spend months upon months of time away from his newborn daughter and have her cry when he holds her for the first time because she doesn't know him. I'm perfectly accurate in what I said. That fucker has ruined a hell of a lot more lives than the people killed on 9/11. It's been a slow prolonged genocide. And if the US hadn't trained and funded Bin Laden and Al Qaeda in the 70s it would never have happened, and if the USSR hadn't invaded Afghanistan that never would have happened. Sorry, but you can't blame one single person for these things. | ||
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SacredSoul
United States76 Posts
On May 02 2011 21:28 Imres wrote: 90% of german forces where on the east front, and japanese didn't care (that was Stalin's biggest fear) about USSR. So, yes, US did nothing in Europe. User was temp banned for this post. No Offense here, but if it took only 10% of the german army to conquer France than I don't even want to picture D-Day with more than 10% of the german army holed up on the beach... Either way, America funded everything for every Allied nation during the later half of the war, that can not be disputed to heavily. USSR might be an exception to that rule, however, its tactic was to throw millions of virtually unarmed men into the fire of tanks and german engineered firearms, then they would flee the city they were protecting and burn thier own supply... Did it work? Yea, but a whole generation of USSR men were wiped from existence. Starcraft View: (they were zerg while germany was terran sieged up) I dont understand why the world can't thank us for taking an initiative; we are helping the deal with the same problems you deal with TERRORISM. I mean honestly would people rather we simply play a game of "guess what they'll blow up next?" I didnt think so... Besides America is a pretty good place, not the "best" by statistical standards, but then again there's a price for relying on people do what is best for the country and not just themselves... At any rate YAY OSAMA IS DEAD! Also did anyone hear him say God Bless America, and the other religion related statements at the end of the speech? I had the greatest feeling of hope when I heard our president fears the Lord! Truly God Bless the USA | ||
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zeru
8156 Posts
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Hoon
Brazil891 Posts
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dbkim92
Australia30 Posts
[x] epic [ ] need for talk about history wp navy seals. | ||
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Jswizzy
United States791 Posts
On May 02 2011 21:47 frodoguy wrote: OMG NO. You've mistaken patriotism with nationalism. The difference being that patriotism is passive. Yea he has mistaken Jingoism for patriotism. | ||
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
On May 02 2011 21:50 SacredSoul wrote: No Offense here, but if it took only 10% of the german army to conquer France than I don't even want to picture D-Day with more than 10% of the german army holed up on the beach... Either way, America funded everything for every Allied nation during the later half of the war, that can not be disputed to heavily. USSR might be an exception to that rule, however, its tactic was to throw millions of virtually unarmed men into the fire of tanks and german engineered firearms, then they would flee the city they were protecting and burn thier own supply... Did it work? Yea, but a whole generation of USSR men were wiped from existence. Starcraft View: (they were zerg while germany was terran sieged up) I dont understand why the world can't thank us for taking an initiative; we are helping the deal with the same problems you deal with TERRORISM. I mean honestly would people rather we simply play a game of "guess what they'll blow up next?" I didnt think so... Besides America is a pretty good place, not the "best" by statistical standards, but then again there's a price for relying on people do what is best for the country and not just themselves... At any rate YAY OSAMA IS DEAD! Also did anyone hear him say God Bless America, and the other religion related statements at the end of the speech? I had the greatest feeling of hope when I heard our president fears the Lord! Truly God Bless the USA yap america (american enterprises) funded everybody even the nazis From Nazi collaborator to Fortune 500 - companies that got rich on the Reich Cracked has a list of five Fortune 500 companies that profited greatly by their active collaboration with the Nazis, from IBM (punchcard tabulators to count the concentration camp dead) to Hugo Boss (designed the Nazi uniforms) and others and dont forget the Nazi scientists that came to the usa after the war.. to work on many projects and experiments... User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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BasedSwag
Algeria418 Posts
On May 02 2011 21:50 SacredSoul wrote: I dont understand why the world can't thank us for taking an initiative; we are helping the deal with the same problems you deal with TERRORISM. I mean honestly would people rather we simply play a game of "guess what they'll blow up next?" I didnt think so... Besides America is a pretty good place, not the "best" by statistical standards, but then again there's a price for relying on people do what is best for the country and not just themselves.. Only Americans are actually afraid of 'terrorists', in my experience. I personally have never had to deal with the problem of terrorism.... | ||
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dbkim92
Australia30 Posts
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Topazas
Lithuania86 Posts
On May 02 2011 21:38 Mooncat wrote: Please people, do everyone here a favor and don't start "the USA saved the world" arguments. It's an incredibly arrogant and presumptuous statement that can only provoke any non American. Saved? All they saved are they're oil prices. It's sad there are so many people in the world who believe all that bringing democracy bs. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Yes he prayed 5 times a day(maybe) Yes he praised Allah and pleaded him to grant him powers to kill. But in character he was not a Muslim. Heck, he even went against war ethics detailed in the Quaran, killing countless unnecessary civilians, which the Quaran forbids(only an unavoidable amount of innocents lost.) I remember one time Bin Laden was saying, on video, how he was not going to kill just the President, or the troops, but "the people who pay their taxes." And that's when I knew Bin Laden was just a terrorist claiming he was religious. And when they did come, do you know what Bin Laden did? Grabbed a woman, used her as a shield to save his own skin. He deserved the death he got, and hopefully we'll start to see more improvements in the war against terror. User was NOT banned for this post | ||
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BasedSwag
Algeria418 Posts
On May 02 2011 22:00 Pandain wrote: And when they did come, do you know what Bin Laden did? Grabbed a woman, used her as a shield to save his own skin. Do you have a source for that claim? | ||
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Moop
Sweden50 Posts
That people in the western world respond to this information in a negative way is beyond me :S | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On May 02 2011 21:55 Topazas wrote: Saved? All they saved are they're oil prices. It's sad there are so many people in the world who believe all that bringing democracy bs. User was temp banned for this post. Um actually the "saved the world" thing is about the cold war/ww2. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/02/bin.laden.dead/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1 In particular: Four others in the compound also were killed. One of them was bin Laden's adult son, and another was a woman being used as a shield by a male combatant, the officials said. Woops it wasn't Bin Laden, but it was his closest relatives, so basically he would've done it as well. | ||
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SacredSoul
United States76 Posts
On May 02 2011 21:53 ImFromPortugal wrote: yap america (american enterprises) funded everybody even the nazis From Nazi collaborator to Fortune 500 - companies that got rich on the Reich Cracked has a list of five Fortune 500 companies that profited greatly by their active collaboration with the Nazis, from IBM (punchcard tabulators to count the concentration camp dead) to Hugo Boss (designed the Nazi uniforms) and others and dont forget the Nazi scientists that came to the usa after the war.. to work on many projects and experiments... User was temp banned for this post. Even if what you say is true (no links so I can only assume) Im sure ANY government wouldn't really want to help an opponent in a war out especially one that took so many lives and strived to take over the world. If it did happen its most likely the companies were very secretive about the practice and it wasn't found out until too late to make a difference. To the guy that said that only America worries about terrorism... There are attacks all over Europe many take place in subway tunnels to slow local commuting... The same extremists attack all capitalistic or democratic states because its against their view of the Koran (In reality the Koran strives for a personal Jihad- an battle between good and evil inside the soul). I like the discussion though, keep it up | ||
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
It's been written in several newspapers (don't mean it's neccesarily true though). I could give you some in Swedish but I'm not sure how helpful that would be for you. | ||
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HereBeDragons
1429 Posts
On May 02 2011 22:03 Pandain wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/02/bin.laden.dead/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1 Unfortunately, everything we read/see/or here is already filtered millions of time. Nobody really know what happened. The media always add 'toppings' to their story to spice it up. | ||
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CjrNinja
Australia223 Posts
There's a lot of misleading info floating around. A woman was killed, though it's not confirmed that Bin-Laden was the one who used her as a shield. Mainly speculation http://www.philly.com/philly/news/121078759.html "They did not say who used the woman as a shield." http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/al-qaeda-leader-osama-bin-laden-shot-in-head-by-us-troops-in-compound-in-abbatabad/story-e6freuy9-1226048515352 "OSAMA bin Laden fought to the end, dying alongside his son in the battle and using a woman as a human shield in a fortified compound with 16 foot high walls" Lots of different stories. | ||
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