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MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
April 29 2011 07:53 GMT
#341
hahahahahaha oh god when I read this on the headlines

http://psx-scene.com/forums/f6/sony-admits-psn-personal-data-not-encrypted-85693/

I was like "seriously? I mean a multibillion dollar company? SERIOUSLY?"
dats racist
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
April 29 2011 08:00 GMT
#342
On April 29 2011 15:56 ShadeR wrote:
So ps3 price drop in sight? i wanna buy one cheap for BF3.

BF3 on PS3? Come on dude! It's all about the PC.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
tertos
Profile Joined April 2011
Romania394 Posts
April 29 2011 08:02 GMT
#343
your link actually trows a good light on Sony.

Password and data not encrypted- Checked.
Credit card info and date encrypted - Checked.

I don't think Sony is to blame for this. Blame government.
They were just ahead in what will be standard privacy regulations.

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/04/07/0212222/France-Outlaws-Hashed-Passwords
I was born this way
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
April 29 2011 09:04 GMT
#344
On April 29 2011 17:00 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 15:56 ShadeR wrote:
So ps3 price drop in sight? i wanna buy one cheap for BF3.

BF3 on PS3? Come on dude! It's all about the PC.

Wholeheartedly agree PC is the way to go for any FPS. But i want to play a game with friends BW is a non option and most people i know own a console =S
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
April 29 2011 10:57 GMT
#345
OK, console gamers had it coming. This is the problem when EVERYTHING goes through one server, if it craps out, EVERYTHING is gone. This is like the equivalent of every game server going down while PayPal, Steam, and eBay simultaneously get hacked and info is stolen.
This is why any system that funnels everything through one point is retarded.
</rant>
Anyway, anybody who tries to defend Sony by saying "Well the hackers did it not much Sony could do" Sony did the equivalent of setting the info written on post-its next to an open window in an office if the rumors are true and Sony stored the info in plaintext. They dun goofed, and I hope they pay.
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
April 29 2011 11:00 GMT
#346
That mean that those password and bank number were not crypted ? crazy...
http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
SpaceFighting
Profile Joined January 2010
New Zealand690 Posts
April 29 2011 11:03 GMT
#347
On April 29 2011 04:37 Bub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 03:56 Xeofreestyler wrote:
I am so glad that I got a nintendo 64 instead of a playstation when I was a kid right now


I'm glad I went for a playstation instead. You certainly missed out. This is only a small problem, Sony has the tools and money to fix it, we just all have to be patient.


this right here is a major fan boyish comment (unless trolling) , this is a complete shitstorm not a small problem... sure they have the money/tools to fix it...but is it really necessary when all they had to do was to actually secure there shit?
kuz pro
Danjoh
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden405 Posts
April 29 2011 11:15 GMT
#348
On April 29 2011 04:37 Bub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 03:56 Xeofreestyler wrote:
I am so glad that I got a nintendo 64 instead of a playstation when I was a kid right now


I'm glad I went for a playstation instead. You certainly missed out. This is only a small problem, Sony has the tools and money to fix it, we just all have to be patient.



The sum of PS3 security, really interesting/scary clip if you have time to watch all of it.
RushWifDietCoke
Profile Joined May 2008
United States488 Posts
April 29 2011 11:28 GMT
#349
Just got an email today from them, although I don't remember registering, perhaps I did for my PSP a long time ago. I was reading some things saying it will depend on the damage caused to determine the actual amount of money this is going to cost Sony. Regardless of how much it will cost them, I think they are ultimately going to lose some future business prospects or at least myself. If this turns out to be a lot worse than everyone expects I could see this being the start of Sony going out of business, or am I just being delusional?
Nothing to it but to do it.
Kyrth
Profile Joined July 2010
United States101 Posts
April 29 2011 11:46 GMT
#350
You're not being delusional at all, apparently the current CEO was putting all his hopes and dreams into making all Sony's products rely on access to their network. People are not going to trust the network now with any sort of important data, so unless Sony finds a new path completely, they're in big trouble. Plus there is a lot of anger about their incompetence. Next generation when people see an Xbox with mostly the same cross platform games, a Nintendo with whatever it does, and a ps4 that's basically an Xbox + bad memories of a faceless corporation not even encrypting your personal info, sitting on known vulnerabilities for months, and then waiting a week to notify customers of the attack. What would you buy?

lundell100
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden232 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 12:08:31
April 29 2011 12:08 GMT
#351
On April 29 2011 04:37 Bub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2011 03:56 Xeofreestyler wrote:
I am so glad that I got a nintendo 64 instead of a playstation when I was a kid right now


I'm glad I went for a playstation instead. You certainly missed out. This is only a small problem, Sony has the tools and money to fix it, we just all have to be patient.

Yeah, because getting all of your personal information stolen is only a "small problem".
MutaDoom
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1163 Posts
April 29 2011 13:01 GMT
#352
On April 29 2011 20:46 Kyrth wrote:
You're not being delusional at all, apparently the current CEO was putting all his hopes and dreams into making all Sony's products rely on access to their network. People are not going to trust the network now with any sort of important data, so unless Sony finds a new path completely, they're in big trouble. Plus there is a lot of anger about their incompetence. Next generation when people see an Xbox with mostly the same cross platform games, a Nintendo with whatever it does, and a ps4 that's basically an Xbox + bad memories of a faceless corporation not even encrypting your personal info, sitting on known vulnerabilities for months, and then waiting a week to notify customers of the attack. What would you buy?


Well, I was gonna say that I don't know about "out of business', that might even be assuming too much will come out of this, but if you're right about putting everything onto the network, Sony's in one hefty heap of shit. It'd be an icy cold day in hell before I'd trust the network now, especially if everything will one day connect to the network. Back to the drawing board for Sony executives, I suppose.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
April 29 2011 13:12 GMT
#353
Bleh this kind of thing happens all the time. I still want to play my god of war, little big planet, gran turismo.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
April 29 2011 13:21 GMT
#354
On April 29 2011 20:00 Rodiel2 wrote:
That mean that those password and bank number were not crypted ? crazy...

Personal info was not encrypted.

CC info and stuff WAS encrypted.
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
April 29 2011 13:25 GMT
#355
On April 29 2011 19:57 Pigsquirrel wrote:
OK, console gamers had it coming. This is the problem when EVERYTHING goes through one server, if it craps out, EVERYTHING is gone. This is like the equivalent of every game server going down while PayPal, Steam, and eBay simultaneously get hacked and info is stolen.
This is why any system that funnels everything through one point is retarded.
</rant>
Anyway, anybody who tries to defend Sony by saying "Well the hackers did it not much Sony could do" Sony did the equivalent of setting the info written on post-its next to an open window in an office if the rumors are true and Sony stored the info in plaintext. They dun goofed, and I hope they pay.

Well, your first statement isn't entirely true. We PC gamers would still have LAN =P
A lot of stuff would have to happen to keep PC games from being played.
JohnnyYen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-29 16:15:43
April 29 2011 16:12 GMT
#356
Just saw this linked on reddit: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2011/apr/29/playstation-network-hackers-credit-cards

Hackers Claim to have 2.2 Million Credit Cards w/ CVVs

Kevin Stevens, a security analyst with Trend Micro, said in a tweet that "the hackers that hacked PSN are selling off the DB [database]. They reportedly have 2.2m credit cards with CVVs" - the latter being the three-figure number required for "card not present" transactions.


Stevens doesn't know this for a fact, but if you haven't cancelled your shit/changed your passwords yet. Please do.

edit: my mistake, this was posted a page back by monx.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
April 29 2011 16:36 GMT
#357
On April 30 2011 01:12 JohnnyYen wrote:
Just saw this linked on reddit: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2011/apr/29/playstation-network-hackers-credit-cards

Hackers Claim to have 2.2 Million Credit Cards w/ CVVs

Show nested quote +
Kevin Stevens, a security analyst with Trend Micro, said in a tweet that "the hackers that hacked PSN are selling off the DB [database]. They reportedly have 2.2m credit cards with CVVs" - the latter being the three-figure number required for "card not present" transactions.


Stevens doesn't know this for a fact, but if you haven't cancelled your shit/changed your passwords yet. Please do.

edit: my mistake, this was posted a page back by monx.

I don't remember PSN ever asking for my CVV. I'm very skeptical of this news.
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BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
April 29 2011 18:45 GMT
#358
On April 30 2011 01:36 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 01:12 JohnnyYen wrote:
Just saw this linked on reddit: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2011/apr/29/playstation-network-hackers-credit-cards

Hackers Claim to have 2.2 Million Credit Cards w/ CVVs

Kevin Stevens, a security analyst with Trend Micro, said in a tweet that "the hackers that hacked PSN are selling off the DB [database]. They reportedly have 2.2m credit cards with CVVs" - the latter being the three-figure number required for "card not present" transactions.


Stevens doesn't know this for a fact, but if you haven't cancelled your shit/changed your passwords yet. Please do.

edit: my mistake, this was posted a page back by monx.

I don't remember PSN ever asking for my CVV. I'm very skeptical of this news.


It asks for it the first time you enter your credit card # as well as its expiry date.
The first page of the process was

Name on Card
CC #
Expiry date
CVV

Then once it verified that information you could progress to entering your address and the like.
Or at least that is what it did for me, so I would believe if 1 user has to enter information one way everyone would. Note this was only asked of me once (as the information ties to your account until you change it) as such the CVV would be stored in their system as well.
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AWakefield
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada420 Posts
April 29 2011 18:58 GMT
#359
The hackers are selling your credit card info. PLEASE CHANGE IT ASAP

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109661-Hackers-Offer-PSN-Credit-Cards-For-Sale
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
April 29 2011 19:25 GMT
#360
This is a good time to buy Sony stocks.
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