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Alright, I'm going in first thing monday (working mornings today and saturday x.x) and canceling my card. Thanks for the post.
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On April 30 2011 03:45 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2011 01:36 Telcontar wrote:On April 30 2011 01:12 JohnnyYen wrote:Just saw this linked on reddit: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2011/apr/29/playstation-network-hackers-credit-cardsHackers Claim to have 2.2 Million Credit Cards w/ CVVsKevin Stevens, a security analyst with Trend Micro, said in a tweet that "the hackers that hacked PSN are selling off the DB [database]. They reportedly have 2.2m credit cards with CVVs" - the latter being the three-figure number required for "card not present" transactions. Stevens doesn't know this for a fact, but if you haven't cancelled your shit/changed your passwords yet. Please do. edit: my mistake, this was posted a page back by monx. I don't remember PSN ever asking for my CVV. I'm very skeptical of this news. It asks for it the first time you enter your credit card # as well as its expiry date. The first page of the process was Name on Card CC # Expiry date CVV Then once it verified that information you could progress to entering your address and the like. Or at least that is what it did for me, so I would believe if 1 user has to enter information one way everyone would. Note this was only asked of me once (as the information ties to your account until you change it) as such the CVV would be stored in their system as well. Oh I think I remember that. Sigh.... I had better call my bank on monday and cancel my card. Damn hackers..... :S
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Is there any way to know if my credit card was stored in their database? I attempted to enter in my credit card info about a month ago but it kept rejecting it. I googled the error, apparently it is common. I never actually successfully used my credit card so is this credit card in the clear? I'm too lazy to cancel it because I'm very dependent on online shopping and online goods
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Sony's Kaz Hirai had a conference today about the situation: + Show Spoiler + Sony has announced that the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services will be coming back online this week. When this week? Sony didn't specify. The restoration of the network will be implemented in phases between regions, so it won't all be back up at once and it was specified which regions will be getting the service back first. Expect a forced system software update once you sign in which will require all users to change their passwords.
The services you should expect to see back will include online game-play functionality for the PS3 and PSN, access to Qriocity, access to account management, access to un-expired movie rentals, PlayStation Home (THANK GOD), friends list and chat functions. The PlayStation Store, however, will still be down and is (vaguely) scheduled to be back sometime "this month."
To make up for the downtime, Sony will be offering a complimentary "Welcome Back" appreciation program for all PlayStation Network and Qriocity users. Sony will be giving out "selected PlayStation entertainment content for free download," 30 days free membership to PlayStation Plus for new and current PS Plus subscribers and 30 days free service to Qriocity subscribers. The "Welcome Back" offerings will be "rolled out over the coming weeks."
Here's what Sony has done to beef up security and what they're doing for everyone effected by the credit cards leaks.
First off, Sony is creating a new position of Chief Information Security Officer whom will be reporting directly to Shinji Hasejima, Chief Information Officer of Sony Corporation. On top of this, Sony worked closely with several security firms and have new security measures in place to detect intrusions to the network.
Some of the new security measures include "automated software monitoring and configuration management to help defend against new attacks," enhanced levels of data protection, encryption and software that can detect intrusions within the network. There's also more firewalls. You can never have enough firewalls. The company has even gone as far as moving to a new data center in a location that "has been under construction and development for several months."
As for any potential credit card thefts, Sony will provide users with complimentary assistance to enroll in identity theft protection services. Still, I'd recommend you all to cancel/update your cards if you haven't done so already.
One final note, and an obvious one at that, Sony is working with law enforcement agencies to track down and prosecute the individuals responsible for the illegal intrusion. Kaz Hirai spoke of the cyber attacks in a press release stating "These illegal attacks obviously highlight the widespread problem with cyber-security. We take the security of our consumers' information very seriously and are committed to helping our consumers protect their personal data.
In addition, the organization has worked around the clock to bring these services back online, and are doing so only after we had verified increased levels of security across our networks."
What do you think? Do you feel Sony is making things up to you in the right way or is it a case of too little, too late?
Source: http://www.destructoid.com/psn-back-up-this-week-playstation-plus-free-for-30-days-200107.phtml
I really like Hirai, he seems to be the best person that can run Sony. Sony also fully apologized for their mistake:
And this too, Sony Considers Reimbursing Credit Card Replacement Costs in Light of Data Breach: + Show Spoiler +In this morning's news conference, Sony Computer Entertainment head Kazuo Hirai said the company would consider covering costs associated with reissuing credit cards to PlayStation Network subscribers who feel their accounts have been compromised by the massive data breach of April 20. Hirai, noting that there have been no confirmed incidents in which fraud was committed with a credit card number stolen from the PSN breach, said the company has asked the FBI for a criminal investigation of the matter.
While there are 77 million accounts in the PlayStation Network, some are are held by the same household or person. Hirai said the owners of 10 million PSN accounts have been notified that their credit card information may have been compromised. However, the three-digit CVV number on the back of the card, required for purchases over the Internet, was definitely not compromised.
The replacement of a lost or stolen credit card is typically done for a customer for free, but to banks there is a cost of printing, processing and mailing the cards, plus a cost of lost business while the customer waits for a new one. Earlier in the week, news reports pegged the transactional costs of card replacement at between $3 and $5 per card. It's unclear who Sony would compensate, if it does, or if enough cardholders will ditch their cards to make it an issue that banks complain about to Sony.
Also in comments at this morning's news conference in Japan:
• Hirai apologized to Sony customers. "We would like to extend our apologies ... because potentially compromised their customer data," Hirai said, according to Gamasutra. "We offer our sincerest apologies."
• Hirai called out Anonymous by name. While he did not accuse the leaderless hacktivist collective of being behind this breach, Hirai noted past attacks for which Anonymous hackers did claim responsibility, including the publshing of personal information about Sony's top management, including information about their children.
• Hirai answered why Sony did not inform its users about the breach sooner. He said Sony shut down the network to prevent any further damage, then hired three companies to analyze the network. The size of the analysis and the gradual nature of the investigation, plus the time it took to wind down PSN to be ready for that examination, accounts for the delay, Hirai said.
• Hirai noted that. in light of the attack on Sony's San Diego data center, those operations are being moved to a new, undisclosed location. He also promised enhanced security to defend against any new attacks. Source: http://kotaku.com/#!5797470/sony-considers-reimbursing-credit-card-replacement-costs-in-light-of-data-breach
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Hmm, I had better call my dad and brother and make sure that they know about this. Luckily I'm not a console guy myself.
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WOW ! You get one month of playstation plus for free as compensation!!
/sarcasm
This is such a joke. I am so glad i never bought or used my card on psn. I dont think i can ever trust sony's online store after this. They obviously don't take security seriously and should be buried for this.
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On May 02 2011 03:53 T0fuuu wrote: WOW ! You get one month of playstation plus for free as compensation!!
/sarcasm
This is such a joke. I am so glad i never bought or used my card on psn. I dont think i can ever trust sony's online store after this. They obviously don't take security seriously and should be buried for this. What the hell are you saying? The one month is simply a good gesture, if you actually read into the article you would see how they specifically discuss measure that they took to improve the online security system and whatnot. Sony screwed up bad, and they handled the situation the worse way possible. However, what they announced today is honestly the best they can come up with. What do you want them to do? Their system is hacked, they fucked up BIG time, and now they are despertly trying to handle the situation after they made it worse. They are looking into compensate you for your credit card changes, give you something of good gesture, and rebuild their trust with their consumer base by hugely focusing on their security system.
The damage is done, Sony cannot reverse the process. All they can do now is try their best to make the losses as small as possible ( They are already pretty damn bad).
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Does it matter if we used a debit card?
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debit cards are basically credit cards, but instead they are linked directly to your bank account instead of "imaginary money" that is your credit card limit.
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On May 02 2011 05:41 CaffeineFree-_- wrote: Does it matter if we used a debit card?
dont think so. if your debit card can be used as a visa/mastercard, it means they can still use the pin/card number online to buy other shit. so it would be best to change ur pw.
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On May 02 2011 05:41 CaffeineFree-_- wrote: Does it matter if we used a debit card?
Using a debit card is even worst.
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I'm just wondering, does this effect all the credit cards I've used on PSN?
For example, I've used couple of my cards, debit card, AMEX, and mastercard on PSN. Right now, my AMEX is registered to my PSN account. So only my AMEX card should be compromised, right?
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Anyone know if this affects SOE purchases? Such as Planetside and their other MMO's?
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If at any moment in time you registered a card with them then yes, your credit card info is on their servers. However, there is no need to panic immediately and cancel your card, you just need to monitor your statement once a week to see if anything out of the ordinary is happening. If anything is indeed happening, you can just contact your credit card company within 60 days and the transaction will be cancelled and they will issue you a new card. The reason I am saying this is because as of yet, there is no evidence of credit card info actually being stolen and used, even Mastercard, VISA, and a couple of credit card companies 2 days ago stated that there has not been any PSN scandal related credit card fraud. Unless its fully proven then the info might be still safe.
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On May 02 2011 06:09 Oryinn wrote: Anyone know if this affects SOE purchases? Such as Planetside and their other MMO's? This only affects PSN specifically. I am not sure if Planetside is on PSN, they may have their own servers and whatnot.
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On May 02 2011 04:02 DragoonPK wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 03:53 T0fuuu wrote: WOW ! You get one month of playstation plus for free as compensation!!
/sarcasm
This is such a joke. I am so glad i never bought or used my card on psn. I dont think i can ever trust sony's online store after this. They obviously don't take security seriously and should be buried for this. What the hell are you saying? The one month is simply a good gesture, if you actually read into the article you would see how they specifically discuss measure that they took to improve the online security system and whatnot . Sony screwed up bad, and they handled the situation the worse way possible. However, what they announced today is honestly the best they can come up with. What do you want them to do? Their system is hacked, they fucked up BIG time, and now they are despertly trying to handle the situation after they made it worse. They are looking into compensate you for your credit card changes, give you something of good gesture, and rebuild their trust with their consumer base by hugely focusing on their security system. The damage is done, Sony cannot reverse the process. All they can do now is try their best to make the losses as small as possible ( They are already pretty damn bad).
You answered it. Its the most useless goodwill gesture ever next to the biggest security breach this year. Playstation plus is a joke of a service. Its just psn games that expire in a month and betas of new games. How is this supposed to rebuild trust with their customers? I already dont have much trust in a company after the removal of otheros, ps2 compatability, media card reader and playstation plus.
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On May 02 2011 09:32 T0fuuu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 04:02 DragoonPK wrote:On May 02 2011 03:53 T0fuuu wrote: WOW ! You get one month of playstation plus for free as compensation!!
/sarcasm
This is such a joke. I am so glad i never bought or used my card on psn. I dont think i can ever trust sony's online store after this. They obviously don't take security seriously and should be buried for this. What the hell are you saying? The one month is simply a good gesture, if you actually read into the article you would see how they specifically discuss measure that they took to improve the online security system and whatnot . Sony screwed up bad, and they handled the situation the worse way possible. However, what they announced today is honestly the best they can come up with. What do you want them to do? Their system is hacked, they fucked up BIG time, and now they are despertly trying to handle the situation after they made it worse. They are looking into compensate you for your credit card changes, give you something of good gesture, and rebuild their trust with their consumer base by hugely focusing on their security system. The damage is done, Sony cannot reverse the process. All they can do now is try their best to make the losses as small as possible ( They are already pretty damn bad). You answered it. Its the most useless goodwill gesture ever next to the biggest security breach this year. Playstation plus is a joke of a service. Its just psn games that expire in a month and betas of new games. How is this supposed to rebuild trust with their customers? I already dont have much trust in a company after the removal of otheros, ps2 compatability, media card reader and playstation plus.
I have to second this. Playstation plus is awful, who the fuck subscribes to that garbage? If they want to rebuild trust, start by giving me some free playstation points to buy whatever game I want instead of a service worth less than a quarter.
Playstation plus is honestly the sort of thing that would be free with most companies. Free crappy games and discounts on more crappy games. Oh, and some super exclusive wall paper.
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My debit card has only $150 roughly so I'm not in deep shit of losing my life savings, but I'd rather not lose any money..still as kong as I monitor payments I don't have to cancel right away right? Also when u say change pw u mean my pin#? sry I'm not good at all with using cards :/
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On May 02 2011 10:09 shinosai wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 09:32 T0fuuu wrote:On May 02 2011 04:02 DragoonPK wrote:On May 02 2011 03:53 T0fuuu wrote: WOW ! You get one month of playstation plus for free as compensation!!
/sarcasm
This is such a joke. I am so glad i never bought or used my card on psn. I dont think i can ever trust sony's online store after this. They obviously don't take security seriously and should be buried for this. What the hell are you saying? The one month is simply a good gesture, if you actually read into the article you would see how they specifically discuss measure that they took to improve the online security system and whatnot . Sony screwed up bad, and they handled the situation the worse way possible. However, what they announced today is honestly the best they can come up with. What do you want them to do? Their system is hacked, they fucked up BIG time, and now they are despertly trying to handle the situation after they made it worse. They are looking into compensate you for your credit card changes, give you something of good gesture, and rebuild their trust with their consumer base by hugely focusing on their security system. The damage is done, Sony cannot reverse the process. All they can do now is try their best to make the losses as small as possible ( They are already pretty damn bad). You answered it. Its the most useless goodwill gesture ever next to the biggest security breach this year. Playstation plus is a joke of a service. Its just psn games that expire in a month and betas of new games. How is this supposed to rebuild trust with their customers? I already dont have much trust in a company after the removal of otheros, ps2 compatability, media card reader and playstation plus. I have to second this. Playstation plus is awful, who the fuck subscribes to that garbage? If they want to rebuild trust, start by giving me some free playstation points to buy whatever game I want instead of a service worth less than a quarter. Playstation plus is honestly the sort of thing that would be free with most companies. Free crappy games and discounts on more crappy games. Oh, and some super exclusive wall paper.
You and me are not people who Playsation Plus is made for. Playstation Plus is a rewards program that benefits people who buy ALOT of shit on PSN. I totally agree that giving PSN Plus to everyone for 30months is not that good. However Sony did say that in addition to that selected games will be given out in addition to PSN Plus. I honestly dont care about this free shit, I care about the steps Sony are doing to improve their Security system. So far from what they did, it was a positive move however there needs to be more steps in that direction.
I dont fully trust Sony just yet, however I fully believe that Sony can come out of this better than before. This hit has been a lesson, and I think Sony learned the importance of their Security system the hard way.
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