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and you know me, that I am uncompassionate and unkind?
you attack me with overgeneralized and unbacked statements in order to validate your point, and then defend yourself by saying I don't know you?
n/m, think what u want, this isn't a big deal
but once again I hope you can one day have a conversation with this girl and tell her what you're telling us.
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On December 14 2004 16:44 taeWook wrote: theres a reason for everything. my guess is, the parents took drugs, or other harmful substances during their lifetime. nothing in a "normal" human being's dna would cause something like this to happen. its always something from the outside, something detrimental to human conception, that would allow this kind of event.
in any case, its very sad.
Q: What is the cause of TCS? A: TCS is caused by a mutation in the genes. A child can inherit TCS from his parent(s) if one or both of his parents have it. A child can also get TCS via a random genetic mutation that occurs during fetal development.
theres a lot of info and pictures of the girl who runs the site (who has the disease) at this site: http://www.treachercollins.org/
But the baby's case is much much worse than this girl's -_-;;
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u don't know me, u don't know who my friends are and what I've seen people close to me experience. So, sorry but your point is inexistent. Its only nonexistent if hes wrong. Is he?
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On December 14 2004 17:50 Kaotu wrote: and you know me, that I am uncompassionate and unkind?
you attack me with overgeneralized and unbacked statements in order to validate your point, and then defend yourself by saying I don't know you?
n/m, think what u want, this isn't a big deal
but once again I hope you can one day have a conversation with this girl and tell her what you're telling us.
I didn't mean to say you're uncompassionate and unkind, I just meant to say your view on this subject doesn't make you kinder and more compassionate than I am, I thought that was clear.
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On December 14 2004 17:55 n00bsaibot wrote:Show nested quote +u don't know me, u don't know who my friends are and what I've seen people close to me experience. So, sorry but your point is inexistent. Its only nonexistent if hes wrong. Is he?
yes, he is
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ugg I saw this on the SA forums, don't need to see again -_-; I haven't been creeped out that much since my first viewing of tubgirl t.t
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Man, she's probably gonna go through a real tough life. Damn those horrible parents for not having an abortion.
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On December 14 2004 19:15 Eniram wrote: Man, she's probably gonna go through a real tough life. Damn those horrible parents for not having an abortion.
wow, i do wonder how people can write something like this, i guess they haven't experienced anything similar, and the fact most people on this board are in their teens makes it harder to look at the bigger picture.
I mean, during the pregnancy they thought the worst case scenario was a cleft lip, and even had they known the truth, many people wouldn't have aborted it.
When my mother was told there might be problems with my little brother (something like 30% chance of brain damage), she COULD have had an abortion just in case. She didn't, he's fine, and even had he had brain damage, he'd have been loved the same way as he is now.
Just because someone isn't as *normal* looking as you or i, doesn't stop them living a happy and fruitful life. Sure, it will be much harder for the little girl, but really i don't see abortion as the solution. The emotional attactment from mother to child during the pregnancy, the wanting a child, and the unrequited love a parent can place upon their child makes decision like abortion much harder than 'omg she might look like a monster, we cant let her live !11!1'
I wish some people waited till they had either experienced something similar, or at least matured before posting some of their comments. At least with people like baal we know he's joking.
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On December 15 2004 08:26 VdP]TwistedEcho wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2004 19:15 Eniram wrote: Man, she's probably gonna go through a real tough life. Damn those horrible parents for not having an abortion. wow, i do wonder how people can write something like this, i guess they haven't experienced anything similar, and the fact most people on this board are in their teens makes it harder to look at the bigger picture.
It's done with sarcasm.
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Yeah, but unfortunately there are rocket scientists like Kobayashi saying that same crap in earnest. Posts like his make me hate this board.
I swear I'd pay money to have five minutes in a ring with that kid - honestly. I think I'd shoot for messing up his face beyond all repair. Then we could see how much he really believes that bullshit he's spewing.
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oh my fucking god i just saw the video....imagine that to happen to your daughter...
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who knows, maybe she'll become the next steven hawking and do something incredible. What a waste it would have been for her to lost that chance just so she could be controlled by society and forced to shave her legs, wear 10 lbs of makeup every day, and style her hair for 2 hours so she could be considered acceptable by the sheep. Your brain is the only important part of your body anyway, and you can choose how you experience things.
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Things like these make me sick, dunno why tho...guess its just gross
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I don't understand people who say "OMGZ LOZL SHE SHOULDA ABORTED~~ +_+".You guys resemble Hitler O; .... I mean do yall think all retarded/defected people should be killed? They are picked on everyday aren't they? For example, everyone that was born paralyzed should be executed b/c they will be made fun of b/c they can't play sports! that's so miserable!!!!!! Do you only think people with no defects should be able to live? If so you are such a fucking Nazi >_>
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On December 15 2004 14:17 Vharox wrote: I don't understand people who say "OMGZ LOZL SHE SHOULDA ABORTED~~ +_+".You guys resemble Hitler O; .... I mean do yall think all retarded/defected people should be killed? They are picked on everyday aren't they? For example, everyone that was born paralyzed should be executed b/c they will be made fun of b/c they can't play sports! that's so miserable!!!!!! Do you only think people with no defects should be able to live? If so you are such a fucking Nazi >_> people with defects should be allowed to live, but retards and assholes shouldnt be allowed to procreate. it's bad for the human race.
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theres a rather distinguished line between being a little slow and having downs syndrome, and looking like an absolute freak of nature.
"30% chance my brother would have mental dissabilities" i woudlnt abort either. Its only a thirty percent chance. and its only a mental dissability, in society thats not a condemnation. that however, 80% of the people in this world would cringe upon seeing, myself included.
if i woke up one day and looked like that, i would shoot myself. not a single doubt about it.
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On December 15 2004 14:34 Gene wrote: theres a rather distinguished line between being a little slow and having downs syndrome, and looking like an absolute freak of nature.
"30% chance my brother would have mental dissabilities" i woudlnt abort either. Its only a thirty percent chance. and its only a mental dissability, in society thats not a condemnation. that however, 80% of the people in this world would cringe upon seeing, myself included.
if i woke up one day and looked like that, i would shoot myself. not a single doubt about it. well good then, obviously you have nothing better to offer this world than your dashing good looks. If you havent noticed, theres a number of us here who have no problem with her at all. So why is your opinion the only valid one?
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I hope the poor girl gets the help she needs. Its just sad to see that and even worst when we have ass holes like the people on here who think the way they do. If you think she is so hideous then go kill yourselves becasue you obviously cant look past a mask.
Who cares what she looks like? Shes just another person. If you would look down on her so much because of a birth defect then maybe you should really consider remodeling your life.
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reading this thread makes me realize just how small of an understanding people have on personalities.
1. to the guy that said he'd kill himself if he woke up and looked like that. Maybe so, but you didn't look like that the day before...she'll have no perspective what so ever on having a normal face, so it'll be FAR easier for her to accept it.
2. a friend of mine was in a car accident and had half of his face ripped off, but it was repaired with multiple stories...even though he was not close to looking normal, he's one of the coolest people i've ever met, a very happy person, and he's even had a few girlfriends after the accident. to sit here and say no one but her family will ever love her is not only immature, but shallow as well.
3. its very likely that she'll get government grants to pay for home schooling or the such, not to mention where science could be in another 15 to 20 years.
4. dont downplay the love of family. i've been on both sides, there's very few things a person cant take when they're able to go home to someone that loves them.
4. i also find it very immature and shallow of people to say that no one liking her will make her unhappy to the point of not wanting to live. there's plenty of things to enjoy in life that dont involve being with another person.
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i don't see why his (Kobayashi) comment was stupid either....the life this young girl has to live will be more like hell....believe me, kids are terrible at school and with THIS girl ... come on just figure out for yourself....jesus.
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