EPT[Question]What century are we in?
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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SpoR.
United States35 Posts
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MoltkeWarding
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However historically many historians date the 20th century as 1914-1989. | ||
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gLyo
United States2410 Posts
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SpoR.
United States35 Posts
EDIT - wait i bet it has to do with the industrial age - technology age. like 1989 was when the internet started getting big? | ||
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n00bsaibot
United States1070 Posts
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
On December 11 2004 18:03 n00bsaibot wrote: no, it probably has to do with when this country was actually founded. Counting centuries from that point instead of just 1800-1900-2000-2100. Although americas foundation shouldnt have any bearing on the death of christ. That's where you're mistaken, sir. By the way, the years have nothing to do with his death. A.D. is Latin for something (don't know how to spell it, but can say it) meaning the year of our Lord, or something like that. I think it's Anno Domini, but I'm not sure. Yeah, I was right, that's how it's spelt, and what it means. | ||
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SpoR.
United States35 Posts
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Sky101
United States1758 Posts
AD = something, but definitely not After Death like some ignorant idiots like to think. | ||
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MoltkeWarding
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On December 11 2004 17:48 gLyo wrote: Why do they do that, Moltke? Well such distinctions are necessarily arbitrary and ethnocentric. For example, if we look at the term "Contemporary history", the German term Zeitgeschichte refers to the period after 1914. For the French, contemporary history means the period after 1789. Let's look at the major "epochs" in the histories of nations. Germany: 1914-1989: Beginning of the Great War, the consequences of which were a Second World War, the partition of Germany and its reunification. 1870 (or 1867)-1914: Period in which Germany/Prussia dominated the Great Power system 1815-1914: Second Period of bipolar struggle between Austria and Prussia for domination of Germany 1701-1815: The rise of Prussia, the first period of bipolar struggle between Austria and Prussia, ending in the Napoleonic wars. France: 1914-1989: Beginning of the Great war, etc etc etc. 1870-1914: The third republic 1815-1870: The Bourbon restoration, second republic and Napoleonic restoration 1789-1815: The revolutionary wars 1715-1789: Louis XV and XVI, decline of French power 1643-1715: Louis XIV, France became most important European power 1588-1643: The political unification of France under Henry of Navarre, ending when France replaced Spain as the most important European power England: 1914-1989: Great war, etc 1815-1914: Century without wars 1689-1815: Century of struggle for world domination against France 1588-1689: Century of hostility against Spain, by the end of which France became England's principal enemy Thus I think the delineation of 1914-1989 makes sense, for Europe and America. The "19th century" of 1815-1914 also to some extent makes sense for both Europe and America, since 1815 was the last war fought between America and a Great European Power (excluding the Spanish-American war) Beyond that, it splits into national histories. | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
ad = anno domini = year or the Lord (lord meaning god) in reference to jesus' birth | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_domini | ||
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
On December 11 2004 18:19 Sky101 wrote: BC = Before Contemporary. AD = something, but definitely not After Death like some ignorant idiots like to think. this is gold. Literally, its the year of our lord. However, its easy to see how the year of our lord gets changed into after death, since he was not our lord until after he died. I mean, it really is kind of the same thing. BTW, are you HOvZ's new smurf? I think I remember hearing you were, plus hovzs name on euro is skyline101 or something. | ||
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
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SpoR.
United States35 Posts
On December 11 2004 18:22 MoltkeWarding wrote: Well such distinctions are necessarily arbitrary and ethnocentric. For example, if we look at the term "Contemporary history", the German term Zeitgeschichte refers to the period after 1914. For the French, contemporary history means the period after 1789. Let's look at the major "epochs" in the histories of nations. Germany: 1914-1989: Beginning of the Great War, the consequences of which were a Second World War, the partition of Germany and its reunification. 1870 (or 1867)-1914: Period in which Germany/Prussia dominated the Great Power system 1815-1914: Second Period of bipolar struggle between Austria and Prussia for domination of Germany 1701-1815: The rise of Prussia, the first period of bipolar struggle between Austria and Prussia, ending in the Napoleonic wars. France: 1914-1989: Beginning of the Great war, etc etc etc. 1870-1914: The third republic 1815-1870: The Bourbon restoration, second republic and Napoleonic restoration 1789-1815: The revolutionary wars 1715-1789: Louis XV and XVI, decline of French power 1643-1715: Louis XIV, France became most important European power 1588-1643: The political unification of France under Henry of Navarre, ending when France replaced Spain as the most important European power England: 1914-1989: Great war, etc 1815-1914: Century without wars 1689-1815: Century of struggle for world domination against France 1588-1689: Century of hostility against Spain, by the end of which France became England's principal enemy Thus I think the delineation of 1914-1989 makes sense, for Europe and America. The "19th century" of 1815-1914 also to some extent makes sense for both Europe and America, since 1815 was the last war fought between America and a Great European Power (excluding the Spanish-American war) Beyond that, it splits into national histories. yea but why does it end on 1989 what is so significant about that year? | ||
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
On December 11 2004 18:33 SpoR wrote: yea but why does it end on 1989 what is so significant about that year? Shhhhh...Dont question someone when they are busy squeezing out bullshit. Have the decency to wait until they wipe their ass. Basically he thinks its the century marker because the Berlin wall came down. Which he somehow sees as the end of all "effects of the great war" | ||
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
no offense, i hate ppl that bash the us, but this question could really ONLY come from an american... tearing down of the berlin wall? end of the fucking cold war? what the hell do you learn at school? [edit]this is of course directed to SpoR, not maleorderbride | ||
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maleorderbride
United States2916 Posts
 (well i pressed the button to edit so I didnt read your comments!)DO you realize that the two of us (carnac) are accidentlly trolling the most worthless topic? I am done posting in this topic. | ||
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Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
------ asking what happened in 1989 attests of utter ignorance and dumbness though. it's like not knowing when columbus came to america or not knowing the year of america's declaration of independance, or the year of the french revolution, not knowing when the second world war took place, or whatever main historical events EVERYONE should know..... | ||
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