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Ygz
Profile Joined June 2010
England370 Posts
March 30 2011 00:00 GMT
#21
The pair of characters 'SE' and 'BE' come up quite frequently through out this note.

http://mit.zenfs.com/102/2011/03/image_large.jpg
Everything Newton said.
Vansetsu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1454 Posts
March 30 2011 00:06 GMT
#22
One thing that throws me off a little, if the poor guy who was murdered wrote encrypted notes like this since a young age, shouldn't there be other encrypted writings of his somewhere which might show patterns he used or some clue as to how he encrypted his messages? Just a thought.
Only by overcoming many obstacles does a river become - デイヴィ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ド
Tufas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Austria2259 Posts
March 30 2011 00:06 GMT
#23
Well lets summon the Master Of Chaos. Should not take him long

But in all seriousness, I doubt that anyone of us mortals can break the code (if there is one) without some more information. But as there is no more information and even the FBI could not solve it (I guess they are well equipped ? ) - we cant either.
Where is my ACE flair
NEcropath
Profile Joined August 2010
United States223 Posts
March 30 2011 00:07 GMT
#24
Why am I suddenly reminded of multiple Alternate Reality Games that opened with a similar story?
. . .Actually I'll be surprised if the people at UnFiction don't crack this within a week.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
March 30 2011 00:08 GMT
#25
Damn, it must be a dark day if the government turns to the likes of video game players to solve crimes. But lets do ittttttttt
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Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
March 30 2011 00:12 GMT
#26
Probably just his shopping list, doubt it really had anything to do with his killer, wasn't like he was being stalked for a week before hand and started writing everything down like a bad movie.
LetoAtreides82
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1188 Posts
March 30 2011 00:13 GMT
#27
On March 30 2011 09:00 Ygz wrote:
The pair of characters 'SE' and 'BE' come up quite frequently through out this note.

http://mit.zenfs.com/102/2011/03/image_large.jpg


Maybe SE or BE = space? So many letters without any spaces, I think he might be using a code for spaces.
The spice must flow
Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
March 30 2011 00:16 GMT
#28
A little more background on the guy would help, such as did he speak/read/write any other language besides English, other letters he's written over the years to compare with and try to search for a base line, did he know any computer programming languages?
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
March 30 2011 00:16 GMT
#29
I'm updating my post (the one right after the OP) with what I think the letters are if anyone wants to give me feedback.
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andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
March 30 2011 00:20 GMT
#30
hmm.. someone should transcribe the message. Here´s a part of the second image (the NOTES one)

+ Show Spoiler +
ALPNTE GLSE - SE ERTE
VLSE MTSE-CTSE-WSE-FRTSE
PNRTRSEONDRSEWLDNCBE
NWLDXLRCMSPNEWLDSTSmE
BULMTGTUNSENCBEX

(MENSASTENMUNARSE)
KLSE-LKSTE-TR SE-TRSE-MKSEN-MRSE
(SAEGNSESENMBSE)

NMNLCBRNSEPTEZNTEWSRCBK
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
March 30 2011 00:21 GMT
#31
On March 30 2011 09:06 Vansetsu wrote:
One thing that throws me off a little, if the poor guy who was murdered wrote encrypted notes like this since a young age, shouldn't there be other encrypted writings of his somewhere which might show patterns he used or some clue as to how he encrypted his messages? Just a thought.

Yeah the FBI article is very sparse on details so we don't know the reason. It could be because he burns or throws away his old notes.
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
March 30 2011 00:23 GMT
#32
btw, at first i thought maybe the SE termination was the IS termination as in the word this. But given the regularity of this two letters, it may seem it stands for something else. When i was a kid, we played a game where we would say the sylable "ka" before each sylable of the word you would say as a word game (ka-i ka-like ka-star-ka-craft). This could be a second level cyphering with something like this... or it could be just another thing at all.. gonna keep trying
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
BloodNinja
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2791 Posts
March 30 2011 00:24 GMT
#33
Slightly off topic - I thought the FBI asked for help with the Zodiac Killer in the 70s since they couldn't decipher the entire letter. Maybe it was only the state/local police.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-30 00:50:53
March 30 2011 00:24 GMT
#34
disagree on L12 +
(TFNQCMSP SOLE MRDELUSE TOTE WLDNWLDNCBE)
(194 WLD’S NCBE) (TRFXC)

edit: I am fairly sure this is polyalphabetic like has been suggested
NCBE occurs way too frequently for it to not be a single letter or a specific word

E for sure is not even a letter perse. It occurs way too frequently, at 18% in parenthetical parts excluding the original that was really off in terms of the rest of the letter. I am ignoring the first couple of lines for now, to be honest, and focusing on the parenthetical parts up until line 12. N occurs about the same amount E itself should ~11%, but I am suspicious it might not be E.

this is what I am focusing on. Any corrections/differences ?

(TFXLF TCXLNCBE)
(NOPFSE NLSRE NCBE)
(TENE TFRNE NCBRTSE NCBE ING)
(FLRSE PRSE ONDE71 NCBE)
(CDNSEPRSE ONSDE 74 NCBE)
(PRTSE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE)
(TFNQCMSP SOLE MRDELUSE TOTE WLDNWLDNCBE)
(194 WLD’S NCBE) (TRFXC)
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kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
March 30 2011 00:24 GMT
#35
On March 30 2011 09:20 never_toss wrote:
hmm.. someone should transcribe the message. Here´s a part of the second image (the NOTES one)

+ Show Spoiler +
ALPNTE GLSE - SE ERTE
VLSE MTSE-CTSE-WSE-FRTSE
PNRTRSEONDRSEWLDNCBE
NWLDXLRCMSPNEWLDSTSmE
BULMTGTUNSENCBEX

(MENSASTENMUNARSE)
KLSE-LKSTE-TR SE-TRSE-MKSEN-MRSE
(SAEGNSESENMBSE)

NMNLCBRNSEPTEZNTEWSRCBK

The first page is in the post right after the OP, if anyone can check it to see if I missed something.
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shabinka
Profile Joined October 2008
United States469 Posts
March 30 2011 00:25 GMT
#36
The fact that numbers rarely show up make me think that they are of a location of some sort
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
March 30 2011 00:29 GMT
#37
Let's just get R1CH in here and be done with it?
This neo violence, pure self defiance
smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
March 30 2011 00:32 GMT
#38
On March 30 2011 08:52 Disregard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 08:48 Jaso wrote:
On March 30 2011 08:47 MisterD wrote:
On March 30 2011 08:43 Bigpet wrote:
this seems to be written in latin characters only. So is anybody up for typing this and posting it here. That would make trying out algorithms easier. Like trying to find out the most common letter but I guess simple rotations are out of the question if the FBI has problems with it.



its not latin only, there's · dots in it. These can be "typed" as well though.


I haven't taken Latin, and have no clue what Latin characters look like, but that looks a lot like the English alphabet..


Uhh... English is Latin-based.


No it isn't. We use the Latin alphabet, the language itself is Germanic.
There is no cow level
IamBach
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1059 Posts
March 30 2011 00:35 GMT
#39
On March 30 2011 09:32 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2011 08:52 Disregard wrote:
On March 30 2011 08:48 Jaso wrote:
On March 30 2011 08:47 MisterD wrote:
On March 30 2011 08:43 Bigpet wrote:
this seems to be written in latin characters only. So is anybody up for typing this and posting it here. That would make trying out algorithms easier. Like trying to find out the most common letter but I guess simple rotations are out of the question if the FBI has problems with it.



its not latin only, there's · dots in it. These can be "typed" as well though.


I haven't taken Latin, and have no clue what Latin characters look like, but that looks a lot like the English alphabet..


Uhh... English is Latin-based.


No it isn't. We use the Latin alphabet, the language itself is Germanic.

Im pretty sure thats what he meant, just english LANGUAGE was implied. In regards to the OP, I am surprised nobody on TL has answered it yet. We already know we are the smartest and the best, lets prove it to the FBI.
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Sworn
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada920 Posts
March 30 2011 00:37 GMT
#40
If anyone one can do it TL can.. seriously someone here is gunna get it and its gunna be ridiculous like a note saying he had to pick up some eggs or something.
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