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Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
March 24 2011 21:35 GMT
#241
mr pretto sucks
honeslty he is the best teacher ever man
with his big beard
ponyo.848
Leftwing
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada229 Posts
March 24 2011 21:35 GMT
#242
On March 25 2011 06:27 StorkHwaiting wrote:
This Xiaxue girl is a well known Singaporean blogger. She is a shock jock like Rush Limbaugh/Howard Stern/Glenn Beck etc. Hope you guys know she makes her bread and butter on saying controversial, biased statements and that her plastic surgery is paid for by sponsors. Kind of odd that her blog entry states these things rather clearly, yet a lot of TLers in this thread seem to be speaking as if she is doing this for no reason, no life, etc. She makes money off it. She has plenty of reason. She's not a "loser" for doing so, in fact she is a very big winner.

I don't get at all how anyone here could call her a loser, when you're literally doing the same thing she is (sharing your thoughts on the internet to discuss and get attention from others) yet NOT getting paid for it like she does.


But still not on Charlie Sheen's level of "winning".

Wont bother commenting on the blog and the fight between them, it's just too bad that people can't grow up.
wzzit
Profile Joined February 2011
United States201 Posts
March 24 2011 21:38 GMT
#243
On March 25 2011 06:33 Half wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 06:31 wzzit wrote:
On March 25 2011 06:24 Half wrote:


Regardless, some people will more easily be able to emphasize with the guy, whether they think of his actions as related to a greedy person looking to make money through false pretense, an "offish" guy exhibiting his own weird sense of humor or a desperate lonely guy trying to feel something where there is nothing.


No they empathize with the guy because they identify with Narcissistic losers more then superficial bitches. And he's a guy, which means theirs an entire subtext of an "emasculation narrative" going on here which is gonna make a bunch of dudes defensive for some reason.

You really shouldn't empathize with either people because they're both pretty fucked up, and if you look at it from that unbiased perspective, the guy is really the one who's more deranged and pathetic.


To be fair, her statement about Haiti is more malicious than anything that Peter Coffin has said or done.


Making broad denouncements isn't worse then personal attacks.

Which is worse, me saying "Grandmas should be euthanized", or going to your grandmas house yelling at her".


This is a subjective point, but I'd like to point out that in your example the latter is a mere personal attack, while the former is an advocacy for genocide against the elderly. I'd think most people would agree that an argument for genocide is more offensive than a personal insult.
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 21:44:39
March 24 2011 21:38 GMT
#244
On March 25 2011 06:38 wzzit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 06:33 Half wrote:
On March 25 2011 06:31 wzzit wrote:
On March 25 2011 06:24 Half wrote:


Regardless, some people will more easily be able to emphasize with the guy, whether they think of his actions as related to a greedy person looking to make money through false pretense, an "offish" guy exhibiting his own weird sense of humor or a desperate lonely guy trying to feel something where there is nothing.


No they empathize with the guy because they identify with Narcissistic losers more then superficial bitches. And he's a guy, which means theirs an entire subtext of an "emasculation narrative" going on here which is gonna make a bunch of dudes defensive for some reason.

You really shouldn't empathize with either people because they're both pretty fucked up, and if you look at it from that unbiased perspective, the guy is really the one who's more deranged and pathetic.


To be fair, her statement about Haiti is more malicious than anything that Peter Coffin has said or done.


Making broad denouncements isn't worse then personal attacks.

Which is worse, me saying "Grandmas should be euthanized", or going to your grandmas house yelling at her".


This is a subjective point, but I'd like to point out that in your example the latter is a mere personal attack, while the former is an advocacy for genocide against the elderly. I'd think most people would agree that an argument for genocide is more offensive than a personal insult.


Ones going to get you arrested and the other isn't. There's a reason for that.
Too Busy to Troll!
bubO
Profile Joined August 2010
United States367 Posts
March 24 2011 21:39 GMT
#245
Man gota feel bad for this guy his life just got destroyed...
Protoss...
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 21:44:02
March 24 2011 21:39 GMT
#246
On March 25 2011 06:24 Half wrote:
Show nested quote +


Regardless, some people will more easily be able to emphasize with the guy, whether they think of his actions as related to a greedy person looking to make money through false pretense, an "offish" guy exhibiting his own weird sense of humor or a desperate lonely guy trying to feel something where there is nothing.


No they empathize with the guy because they identify with Narcissistic losers more then superficial bitches. And he's a guy, which means theirs an entire subtext of an "emasculation narrative" going on here which is gonna make a bunch of dudes defensive for some reason.

You really shouldn't empathize with either people because they're both pretty fucked up, and if you look at it from that unbiased perspective, the guy is really the one who's more deranged and pathetic.

I can emphasized that he did something that spiralled out of control completely. Both are pathetic. The guy however did not know what he gave him self into.

Empathy should not be restricted to closer friends. He probably has some real life problems and he seems to have vented them through the internet. I do not feel that what happened to him was deserved even if he did wrong.

I do not believe in "an eye for an eye logic"
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
rycho
Profile Joined July 2010
United States360 Posts
March 24 2011 21:41 GMT
#247
how can you guys be siding with peter here? he came up with this fake relationship and did his best to show it to the entire internet. its not like his privacy is being invaded here, this is all stuff he broadcast to everyone. nothing "happened" to him that he didn't completely bring upon himself, and personally i find this hilarious.
ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
March 24 2011 21:44 GMT
#248
I hope he doesn't kill himself... or maybe...
A time to live.
iNSiPiD1
Profile Joined May 2010
United States140 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 21:46:18
March 24 2011 21:44 GMT
#249
Do we have any proof that the blogger girl didn't make the Kimi account? What if she did make that fake account and then started talking/flirting with Peter, and he simply fell into a trap she set up?

All I'm saying is that without absolute proof that she did NOT do this, how can we be so sure he did?

Not trying to defend anyone, just saying...
"What is asserted without reason, may be denied without reason."
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
March 24 2011 21:47 GMT
#250
On March 25 2011 06:39 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 06:24 Half wrote:


Regardless, some people will more easily be able to emphasize with the guy, whether they think of his actions as related to a greedy person looking to make money through false pretense, an "offish" guy exhibiting his own weird sense of humor or a desperate lonely guy trying to feel something where there is nothing.


No they empathize with the guy because they identify with Narcissistic losers more then superficial bitches. And he's a guy, which means theirs an entire subtext of an "emasculation narrative" going on here which is gonna make a bunch of dudes defensive for some reason.

You really shouldn't empathize with either people because they're both pretty fucked up, and if you look at it from that unbiased perspective, the guy is really the one who's more deranged and pathetic.

I can emphasized that he did something that spiralled out of control completely. Both are pathetic. The guy however did not know what he gave him self into.

Empathy should not be restricted to closer friends. He probably has some real life problems and he seems to have vented them through the internet. I do not feel that what happened to him was deserved even if he did wrong.

I do not believe in "an eye for an eye logic"


What exactly happened to him? That people figured out his fake girlfriend was fake? So in other words, he deserves for other people to think that he has a fake girlfriend? That's his natural right, and its inhumane that this should be taken away from him?

Its lucky nobody cared enough about him to notice until now, if anything.

Too Busy to Troll!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
March 24 2011 21:49 GMT
#251
This is one of the best e-drama I've read in a while. That dude really messed up big time lol
[TLMS] REBOOT
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
March 24 2011 21:54 GMT
#252
On March 25 2011 06:47 Half wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 06:39 Eppa! wrote:
On March 25 2011 06:24 Half wrote:


Regardless, some people will more easily be able to emphasize with the guy, whether they think of his actions as related to a greedy person looking to make money through false pretense, an "offish" guy exhibiting his own weird sense of humor or a desperate lonely guy trying to feel something where there is nothing.


No they empathize with the guy because they identify with Narcissistic losers more then superficial bitches. And he's a guy, which means theirs an entire subtext of an "emasculation narrative" going on here which is gonna make a bunch of dudes defensive for some reason.

You really shouldn't empathize with either people because they're both pretty fucked up, and if you look at it from that unbiased perspective, the guy is really the one who's more deranged and pathetic.

I can emphasized that he did something that spiralled out of control completely. Both are pathetic. The guy however did not know what he gave him self into.

Empathy should not be restricted to closer friends. He probably has some real life problems and he seems to have vented them through the internet. I do not feel that what happened to him was deserved even if he did wrong.

I do not believe in "an eye for an eye logic"


What exactly happened to him? That people figured out his fake girlfriend was fake? So in other words, he deserves for other people to think that he has a fake girlfriend? That's his natural right, and its inhumane that this should be taken away from him?

Its lucky nobody cared enough about him to notice until now, if anything.


I think it's more the fact that he was harassing and insulting e-famous people about being fake, while being incredibly fake himself.

I don't really like either of them but the hypocrisy shown by this Peter dude is ridiculous.

It's perfectly fine if someone wants to vent by creating a fake persona online. Tons of people do that. It's a different story altogether for someone to create a fake persona and then go after others with it.
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
March 24 2011 21:57 GMT
#253
On March 25 2011 06:44 iNSiPiD1 wrote:
Do we have any proof that the blogger girl didn't make the Kimi account? What if she did make that fake account and then started talking/flirting with Peter, and he simply fell into a trap she set up?

All I'm saying is that without absolute proof that she did NOT do this, how can we be so sure he did?

Not trying to defend anyone, just saying...

I got the impression that the relationship being staged was real relationship and not online relationship. (you can correct me on this). How can she trap that if she didnt pull a face off and bang him on date nights.
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
ggmail
Profile Joined March 2011
10 Posts
March 24 2011 21:59 GMT
#254
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Shamrock_
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
South Africa276 Posts
March 24 2011 22:02 GMT
#255
I actually don't see a lot of point in what she's doing. It's like a classroom debate, a perpetuation of the highschool jocks who loved drama but had no real problems to complain about. I mean, yes, his story is sad. But she stoops down to a pretty low level.
This is my rifle, this is my gun; this is for fighting, this is for fun
cocoa_sg
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore296 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 22:13:08
March 24 2011 22:05 GMT
#256
Update: Peter Coffin now has a new fake identity, bringing his schizophrenic total to 3!

Say hello to Peter Coffin/Kimi Kobayashi/Legal Team, and now this -

http://rantsandretardicles.blogspot.com/

I feel sorry for this guy.... not. This is what you get for being so racist towards Asians. =3

PS: Well done, Xiaxue! Well, she is a popular Singaporean blogger but I do not really follow her that much; she is controversial too over here. =) But still, you have done us Singaporeans proud!

EDIT: Here is an old video by Peter Coffin, kicking his own nuts for a TV show. Welcome to the Internet!

Member of the "Afrotoss be rapin" crew ! Join now by copy/pasting this - || - I do not play BW or SC2, but I am a rabid fanboy! =D
Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
March 24 2011 22:08 GMT
#257


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[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
March 24 2011 22:08 GMT
#258
Why is everyone hating on the girl for what she did? Well done, I mean I don't think it's a good investment of time, but who cares it's her time she can do whatever the hell she wants with it. Obviously so can the guy, but he's a lying hypocritical snobbish "solutions guy" and that's already really unlikeable, and plus he was bothering her.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-24 22:10:34
March 24 2011 22:08 GMT
#259
On March 25 2011 06:47 Half wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2011 06:39 Eppa! wrote:
On March 25 2011 06:24 Half wrote:


Regardless, some people will more easily be able to emphasize with the guy, whether they think of his actions as related to a greedy person looking to make money through false pretense, an "offish" guy exhibiting his own weird sense of humor or a desperate lonely guy trying to feel something where there is nothing.


No they empathize with the guy because they identify with Narcissistic losers more then superficial bitches. And he's a guy, which means theirs an entire subtext of an "emasculation narrative" going on here which is gonna make a bunch of dudes defensive for some reason.

You really shouldn't empathize with either people because they're both pretty fucked up, and if you look at it from that unbiased perspective, the guy is really the one who's more deranged and pathetic.

I can emphasized that he did something that spiralled out of control completely. Both are pathetic. The guy however did not know what he gave him self into.

Empathy should not be restricted to closer friends. He probably has some real life problems and he seems to have vented them through the internet. I do not feel that what happened to him was deserved even if he did wrong.

I do not believe in "an eye for an eye logic"


What exactly happened to him? That people figured out his fake girlfriend was fake? So in other words, he deserves for other people to think that he has a fake girlfriend? That's his natural right, and its inhumane that this should be taken away from him?

Its lucky nobody cared enough about him to notice until now, if anything.


If it was only people finding out I would have no objections to it. But if you look at his youtube account and his reddit post its just people attacking him (and for some reason he is defending himself)

I am guessing this is why I kinda side with the guy



# Superficial persona: This girl represents the lack of empathy and distance that has, for many, come to characterize the modern "internet society". The media constantly shows us different versions of reality in the forum of reality shows and similar entertainment, and with so many different representations of reality there seems to be a disconnect. It gives the feeling that people do not understand it other and live life without a common connection. That previously, people were just people, and everyone could relate, but today people are "personas" and everything becomes surreal and distant. If you look as the way this girl presents herself, communicates or writes in her entries, she represents this disconnect - this emptiness. It all seems to scream of superficial interaction, self-justifications, impersonal presence. The fact that she promotes vile and anger just seems to enhance this.

Dissasociation: More "mature" people might simply find the girl's childish outburst or hostile tone, and wish to distance themselves from the girl. They don't really try to understand the motives or circumstance, but simply relate to the raw act. The people who feel this will generally feel that such behavior is disruptive or worse, and therefore feel strongly about calling it out or dissasociating themselves.


I really think that the guy is the one that is bullied even if he attacked first. She has "the masses" behind him and I agree with what Asjo has written.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
ggmail
Profile Joined March 2011
10 Posts
March 24 2011 22:09 GMT
#260
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