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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/11/04/africa/russian-plane-crash-egypt-sinai/ | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
so, what does it mean?; and who sent it?. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On November 05 2015 19:32 xM(Z wrote: that was a message for the russians. there is no way ISIS planned it; maybe they carried it out or were used as proxy but even then it's a stretch. so, what does it mean?; and who sent it?. I think you are right, no way an islamist terrorist organisation would ever think of bombing a plane. 100% impossible. Since you figure things out so quickly, who do you think lead them? Must have been their American paymasters, amirite? | ||
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On November 06 2015 01:57 xM(Z wrote: there's no need for you to be offended; just take a chill pill and wait for the reply. this is just a game for them. Aw man I thought you would enlighten me with a straight answer. Instead you chicken out and reply with even more vague stuff. Rather boring. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4748 Posts
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
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lastpuritan
United States540 Posts
if TL DR ; Talk of the new force gave Washington cover to send arms that could be used against IS without angering Turkey, a State Department official told The WorldPost soon after the airdrop. One administration official called the approach a “ploy” in a conversation with Bloomberg View. And a New York Times reporter who visited the northern Syrian regions home to the new alliance published a damning report on Nov. 2 that said the loosely aligned Syrian Democratic Forces exist “in name only.” Arabs in areas captured by the Kurds with U.S. support have also reported abuse at the hands of Kurdish forces, in interviews with outlets including The WorldPost and advocacy organizations like Amnesty International. Those allegations suggest that the Turks may have a point: If Washington does empower the Kurds without real engagement with Sunni Arabs, it could push many Arabs into the embrace of the Islamic State or other extremist, anti-Western groups in Syria. I remember we had an Assyrian here. Is this true? Assyrian and Armenian institutions in Syria have claimed that Democratic Union Party (PYD) and People's Protection Units (YPG) seized private properties in Al Hasakah province of Syria. 18 Christian institutions publishing the notice have accused PYD and YPG of violating human rights, seizing private property, recruiting by force, imposing tax unlawfully, and intervening in curriculum of churches. + Show Spoiler + Joint letter According to the news by Fatih Gökhan Diler from Agos weekly, while YPG allegedly has decided to seize the properties of Assyrians who had to displace by internal migration, Assyrian and Armenian churches, political and civil institutions writing a letter against this decision uttered as follows: "For more than four years our country, Syria, has been struggling with tragic events. Destruction and terrorism brought by [civil] war has caused all ethnic societies suffer. However, we as residents of Cezire have preserved the idea of living together in peace. A new self-governance has been established with some institutions because of extraordinary conditions for the purpose of security. However, rules of this governance have neither been properly regulated nor worked through. This is causing disturbance among some ethnic groups. While all these take place, official authority persists to do its administrative, legal, military, and financial duties. "Immigrant Property Law" Christian society representatives in the region have taken the following decisions as to "Immigrant Property Law": - "Immigration Property Law" in question is a violation of human rights infringing the most basic right, property right. - No one can be declared "traitor" under no conditions for merely leaving his/her house. - Efforts to establish "Institution of Administration and Redistribution of Immigrant Property" is a property seizure under cover of aiding those in need. - These regulations in question provide a dangerous priority to "Proprietorship Law" implemented in whole Cezire Canton. Besides, it will gradually create a Christian society centered demographic change. While seizing the properties of which 35 percent belong to Christians will cause anxiety with good reason in both those who flee and stay, it will also totally prevent the return of escapers. - In line with the decision the Christians take, not selling their properties nor appointing representatives to the properties is totally legal in terms of both state law and international law. It is wrong to say this decision is illegal. Recruitment by force, unlawful tax, intervention to curriculum Christian society representative accused PYD and YPG of v, recruiting by force, imposing tax unlawfully, and intervening in curriculum of churches as well in addition to property issue. The representatives stating that the "procedure to obtain permission and license, fees and taxes for new permission and license" enforcements are unlawful, state that available permission and license documents were given by official authorities in Syria and that it is unlawful to demand additional tax and fee. "Recruitment law" and intervention to curriculum of church education institutes are also being criticized. Christian institutions state that Cezire Canton administration pressuring Christin institutions is an intervention in educational activities of Christian society. | ||
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
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xM(Z
Romania5299 Posts
Syrian army retakes Aleppo air base from IS hold after one year • The victory is the first major breakthrough since Russia's air campaign began • The Syrian government forces managed to reach fellow soldiers who had been holed up inside the base for nearly two years. • On Tuesday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier spoke on phone regarding Syria. DAMASCUS/BEIRUT The Syrian army achieved a major victory as it broke a more than year-long Islamic State siege of a military air base in Aleppo in the country's north Tuesday. The victory is the first major breakthrough since Russia's air campaign began, and comes as President Bashar al-Assad's forces ramp up their fight against the extremists. "Army and the armed forces eliminate large numbers of ISIS terrorists and make contact with the forces defending Kweires Airport in Aleppo's eastern countryside," the Syrian Arab News Agency (SANA) said on Tuesday. SANA also reported that government forces recaptured several villages in the eastern suburbs of Aleppo. The UK-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights also said that government forces backed by armed forces loyal to the regime, Hezbollah fighters and Russian air strikes had managed to break the siege. http://www.israelherald.com/index.php/sid/238458049 New Syrian constitution in 18 months envisaged by Russia • Russia outlines eight-point proposal for Syria • Doesn't talk about Assad's stepping down during the transition • The proposal likely to face Western opposition NEW YORK - Russia wants the government and opposition in Syria to draft a new constitution in a process that should take 18 months before presidential elections are held to end the nearly 5-year-old deadly conflict in the war-ravaged country, according to a leaked document circulated at the United Nations. However, the eight-point proposal, which comes ahead of the international talks on Syria this week, doesn't talk about the beleaguered President Bashar al-Assad's stepping down during the transition. It only mentions that "the president of Syria will not chair the constitutional commission". "(The) popularly elected president of Syria will have the functions of commander-in-chief of the armed forces, control of special services and foreign policy," the document reads. The document urged UN special envoy Staffan de Mistura for the proposed political process between the Syrian government and "a united delegation of the opposition groups" on the basis of the June 2012 communiqu agreed upon by major powers in Geneva. The document got leaked to various media outlets and Russia's deputy UN ambassador Vladimir Safronkov expressed regret about the leak. "It's our vision it's our proposal," Safronkov said. "And of course we are receptive for proposals from the other side. It's just Russian contribution, how we launch a political process ... to make parties work together, government and opposition." But a Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman in Moscow denied that any document was being prepared by Russia. "This information does not correspond to reality," said Maria Zakharova. | ||
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Catch]22
Sweden2683 Posts
"The popularly elected president of Syria". | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
![[image loading]](http://america.aljazeera.com/content/ajam/multimedia/photo-gallery/2015/11/photos-the-battle-for-sinjar/_jcr_content/slideShowImages/slide1/image.adapt.960.high.iraq_sinjar_03a.jpg) Members of Kurdish peshmerga forces walk in the town of Sinjar, Iraq, Nov. 13, 2015, after an offensive to retake the town from ISIL. | ||
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ImFromPortugal
Portugal1368 Posts
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq?CMP=share_btn_fb | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
Im supposed to do a paper and presentation on the Syrian Refugee crisis in 2 days. And as of right now, I know little to nothing about the situation. I suspect I will spend a good majority of my time reading the stuff on OP (assuming the stuffs been updated). But if not, is there a place where I can find the TLDR of the situation on Syria civil war to get me up to speed. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On November 16 2015 15:55 Emnjay808 wrote: Oh wow glad I found this thread. Im supposed to do a paper and presentation on the Syrian Refugee crisis in 2 days. And as of right now, I know little to nothing about the situation. I suspect I will spend a good majority of my time reading the stuff on OP (assuming the stuffs been updated). But if not, is there a place where I can find the TLDR of the situation on Syria civil war to get me up to speed. There is no TLDR tbh, but here is a site I use for updates http://www.understandingwar.org/project/syria-project | ||
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zeo
Serbia6337 Posts
On November 16 2015 16:13 Rebs wrote: There is no TLDR, tbh but here is a site I use for updates http://www.understandingwar.org/project/syria-project Hmmm, I would advise caution with sites like this one, from their wiki: In 2013 a senior analyst at the Institute, Elizabeth O'Bagy, was fired after it was revealed she did not have the doctorate from Georgetown University as she had claimed and had obfuscated an affiliation with the Syrian Emergency Task Force, a U.S.-based group advocating the armed overthrow of the government of Syria. The dramatic termination generated national and international headlines after O'Bagy's research for the Institute was cited in a U.S. Senate hearing on possible U.S. military intervention into Syria. It doesn't mean everything they say is wrong per say, just take their numbers with a grain of salt. Anyway, to the guy asking about the refugee crisis. If you are looking at the Arab Spring as a start to your timeline take a look at the Algerian civil war, its causes and consequences. It will tell you why Algeria didn't participate in the Arab spring and why Arabs fear political instability far far more than any corrupt government. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On November 16 2015 17:52 zeo wrote: Hmmm, I would advise caution with sites like this one, from their wiki: It doesn't mean everything they say is wrong per say, just take their numbers with a grain of salt. Anyway, to the guy asking about the refugee crisis. If you are looking at the Arab Spring as a start to your timeline take a look at the Algerian civil war, its causes and consequences. It will tell you why Algeria didn't participate in the Arab spring and why Arabs fear political instability far far more than any corrupt government. I just said I use it for news and updates. Obviously any articles you use you want to go and look at the citations and peer review. I doubt most of them are properly backed by and academic insitution. Generally the news is fine, You can find an Al Jazeera reports that coincided with most of the updates. Besides its not unusual for academics to do fraudulent stuff. You can find this sort of instance of fraud on pretty much every top colleges wiki. Doesnt mean you start taking everything you learn in college with a grain of salt. So I wouldnt use grain of salt as the term, but sure the information may not be viable at face value, I dont know I dont follow that bit. Theres a difference between a rando website that peddles agenda's and non profit research projects run by academics with genuine credentials. Oh and check this out Ben Swann telling you its all America's fault | ||
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zeo
Serbia6337 Posts
On November 16 2015 17:54 Rebs wrote: Theres a difference between a rando website that peddles agenda's and non profit research projects run by academics with genuine credentials. So when you say "sites like these" you seem to be thinking this is the result of some kind of "Terrorism in the Quran" type google search, that will lead you to hate group conservative websites. I understand what you are trying to say, my point is that its not making stuff up, just skewering or ommiting some the facts to fit an agenda. On the surface the Institute for the Study of War is a non-profit organization, but it is supported by grants and contributions from large defense contractors, including Raytheon, General Dynamics, DynCorp and others. Take this article for instance: For Kim Kagan, spending so many months away from research and advocacy work in Washington could have annoyed many donors to the Institute for the Study of War. But her major backers appear to have been pleased that she cultivated such close ties with Petraeus, who went from Kabul to head the CIA before resigning this fall over his affair with Broadwell. At the August 2011 dinner honoring Petraeus, Kagan thanked executives from two defense contractors who sit on her institute’s corporate council, DynCorp International and CACI International. The event was sponsored by General Dynamics. All three firms have business interests in the Afghan war. washingtonpost My point is if there is an offensive in south Allepo by Syrian forces, this source will cover it and you will get the general outcome. But at the same time this source has corporate backers with a business interests in a military intervention in Syria. Its not a 'pants on head retarded' source like the 'Syrian Observatory for Human Rights', which is basically one guy without a highschool diploma let alone a journalism degree inventing sources in his flat above a chip shop in Coventry. How someone that has never meet their sources, and hasn't been to Syria in 15 years can observe something is beyond me, but the point is read a few more sources and a conclusion to what happened should be more clear. | ||
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