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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
July 25 2012 07:26 GMT
#1341
On July 25 2012 13:11 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 13:04 Xxio wrote:
On July 25 2012 13:02 GolemMadness wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:08 Xxio wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:58 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:48 Xxio wrote:
Standard Hollywood summer action movie. Clunky and pretty boring, no emotional engagement. Fight scenes were particularly bad. Only good scene is when Bane kills Daggett.



What on earth is your definition of a "good" movie??? 0_o MUST KNOW


Good movies: Amadeus, Reservoir Dogs, Hunger, Back to the Future
Great movies: 3-Iron, Twilight Samurai, 8½, Cool Hand Luke

I enjoyed TDKR, it was fun. Sometimes you just want to watch a Hollywood action/drama flick and that's fine, but it is what it is.


So only older/foreign movies can be great?


Yes, that's exactly what I said. Good job.


How isn't it? "Sometimes you just want to watch a Hollywood action/drama flick and that's fine, but it is what it is." "it is what it is" implies that it's not something that can be great.

The "Hollywood" is probably the operative word here. A mainstream film with an enormous budget meant to appeal to as wide an audience as possible is going to have an upper limit. TDKR is very Hollywood. It's even more so than TDK and BB were.

It was a decent film. I'd even call it good, but it's just entertainment.
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publicenemies
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
458 Posts
July 25 2012 07:31 GMT
#1342
On July 25 2012 14:46 Yoshirawr wrote:
Wasn't a massive fan of the movie. Not saying it was bad, but I really did face palm when I saw an army of cops armed with pistols charge at terrorists armed with machine guns and tanks down a narrow road as if they were spartans... then the terrorists proceeded to charge at them, and aside from a few that got shot, they all started punching each other. =/

Hey man they didnt go to jail for being smart alright
Sparkman
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60 Posts
July 25 2012 07:36 GMT
#1343
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I thought the way Bane died was horrible. I was expecting a epic fight scene between him and Batman where Batman somehow beats him straight up, not shot in the face . Regardless, I personally wanted to see more Batman, not Bruce Wayne.
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
July 25 2012 07:41 GMT
#1344
This.

The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 08:06:52
July 25 2012 08:06 GMT
#1345
On July 25 2012 14:49 Ryuu314 wrote:
Really liked the movie. But honestly, the cops v. thugs fight scene really really really really killed the movie for me -.- It was just so.......stupid. Suspension of disbelief and all that but the thugs have 2 tanks and machine guns. The cops have a few handguns. Iunno man...that evil henchman school is really working overtime in training bad guys to always fucking miss.

Everything else I thought was amazing...specially Hathaway


Didn't you notice that batman came down on his plane and EMP'd the tanks just in time? That's why they weren't shooting.

On July 25 2012 14:51 SwizzY wrote:

But the worst offense of this movie to my nerddom is:
+ Show Spoiler +
how Bane was so anticlimactically "killed/taken out." You spend the whole fucking movie setting up an intelligent, ruthless villain only to decide that you want to switch gears to a weaker villain/actor in Tate/Talia. Something about having him taken out by Catwoman and a rocket from the batcycle was just... wrong. I loved Bane by the hour and a half mark so I hope you see why it got to me. The final death scene of Talia/Tate was just god-awful. The cliche closing of the eyes, cock head away death is just laughable, mainly because she can't pull it off.



Yep, this summarizes what I found wrong with the movie. Other than that though, I thought it was quite good.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
July 25 2012 08:59 GMT
#1346
On July 25 2012 17:06 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 14:49 Ryuu314 wrote:
Really liked the movie. But honestly, the cops v. thugs fight scene really really really really killed the movie for me -.- It was just so.......stupid. Suspension of disbelief and all that but the thugs have 2 tanks and machine guns. The cops have a few handguns. Iunno man...that evil henchman school is really working overtime in training bad guys to always fucking miss.

Everything else I thought was amazing...specially Hathaway


Didn't you notice that batman came down on his plane and EMP'd the tanks just in time? That's why they weren't shooting.

what does EMP do against a bunch of machine guns?
Writerptrk
Wonderstruck
Profile Joined November 2011
New Zealand16 Posts
July 25 2012 09:01 GMT
#1347
The movie was brilliant, except for that already highlighted point about Bane randomly being switched out as a secondary villain in the last minutes of the movie.

In the Dark Knight we got to see The Joker being an absolute badass the whole way through, and Two- Face did not really compete majorly with him.

That fight scene between Batman and Bane midway through when Catwoman leads him into the tread is absolutely epic though. Bane was such a friggin tank, and the way he presented the speech about the dark ... HNNNGH!

Also, catwoman on the bike. ;]
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 25 2012 09:36 GMT
#1348
On July 25 2012 16:26 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 13:11 GolemMadness wrote:
On July 25 2012 13:04 Xxio wrote:
On July 25 2012 13:02 GolemMadness wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:08 Xxio wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:58 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:48 Xxio wrote:
Standard Hollywood summer action movie. Clunky and pretty boring, no emotional engagement. Fight scenes were particularly bad. Only good scene is when Bane kills Daggett.



What on earth is your definition of a "good" movie??? 0_o MUST KNOW


Good movies: Amadeus, Reservoir Dogs, Hunger, Back to the Future
Great movies: 3-Iron, Twilight Samurai, 8½, Cool Hand Luke

I enjoyed TDKR, it was fun. Sometimes you just want to watch a Hollywood action/drama flick and that's fine, but it is what it is.


So only older/foreign movies can be great?


Yes, that's exactly what I said. Good job.


How isn't it? "Sometimes you just want to watch a Hollywood action/drama flick and that's fine, but it is what it is." "it is what it is" implies that it's not something that can be great.

The "Hollywood" is probably the operative word here. A mainstream film with an enormous budget meant to appeal to as wide an audience as possible is going to have an upper limit. TDKR is very Hollywood. It's even more so than TDK and BB were.

It was a decent film. I'd even call it good, but it's just entertainment.


TDK is a Hollywood movie with a huge budget. That didn't prevent it from being incredible. Obviously there are lots of crappy Hollywood movies, but that doesn't mean that some of them can't be great.
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Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
July 25 2012 09:50 GMT
#1349
On July 25 2012 18:36 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 16:26 PH wrote:
On July 25 2012 13:11 GolemMadness wrote:
On July 25 2012 13:04 Xxio wrote:
On July 25 2012 13:02 GolemMadness wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:08 Xxio wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:58 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:48 Xxio wrote:
Standard Hollywood summer action movie. Clunky and pretty boring, no emotional engagement. Fight scenes were particularly bad. Only good scene is when Bane kills Daggett.



What on earth is your definition of a "good" movie??? 0_o MUST KNOW


Good movies: Amadeus, Reservoir Dogs, Hunger, Back to the Future
Great movies: 3-Iron, Twilight Samurai, 8½, Cool Hand Luke

I enjoyed TDKR, it was fun. Sometimes you just want to watch a Hollywood action/drama flick and that's fine, but it is what it is.


So only older/foreign movies can be great?


Yes, that's exactly what I said. Good job.


How isn't it? "Sometimes you just want to watch a Hollywood action/drama flick and that's fine, but it is what it is." "it is what it is" implies that it's not something that can be great.

The "Hollywood" is probably the operative word here. A mainstream film with an enormous budget meant to appeal to as wide an audience as possible is going to have an upper limit. TDKR is very Hollywood. It's even more so than TDK and BB were.

It was a decent film. I'd even call it good, but it's just entertainment.


TDK is a Hollywood movie with a huge budget. That didn't prevent it from being incredible. Obviously there are lots of crappy Hollywood movies, but that doesn't mean that some of them can't be great.

I would call it good but not incredible. Only superhero movie that was incredible was TDK. I would rate TDKR about Xmen 2 level.
Prox
Profile Joined July 2010
Netherlands174 Posts
July 25 2012 09:53 GMT
#1350
I'm so surprised everyone is taken by the 'sudden revealing' of Robin. 2nd time I saw the guy on screen I guessed it was him. Lol
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mathemagician1986
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany549 Posts
July 25 2012 10:22 GMT
#1351
I believe the movie should have ended with Alfred looking directly at the camera, and then just cut it off. Would have given it a more interesting ending, not this all-is-well-tinkerbell-shit.

TDKR doesn't compare to TDK.
Chicodog
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark154 Posts
July 25 2012 10:37 GMT
#1352
What a great movie! It was very well done. A little corny sometimes, but that did not ruin it for me. Great job by Anne Hathaway especially.

Bane was a little one dimensional to co-carry a 3 hour movie. He was scary at first, but I got a little bored with him as the movie progressed. I don't think the Talia twist did anything good for the movie. Would have been better if Bane was the main villain and they had spent some more time building his character by showing more of his background.

9/10
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
July 25 2012 10:49 GMT
#1353
On July 25 2012 18:53 Prox wrote:
I'm so surprised everyone is taken by the 'sudden revealing' of Robin. 2nd time I saw the guy on screen I guessed it was him. Lol


Except if anything he's the new batman, not a robin.

Lol
Everyone needs a nemesis.
SRBNikola
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Serbia191 Posts
July 25 2012 10:50 GMT
#1354
Thing about bane is that he even in comics is never mastermind and main villan, he is guy hired to stand up to batman.
eericson000
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia718 Posts
July 25 2012 11:00 GMT
#1355
On July 25 2012 17:59 ArvickHero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 17:06 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
On July 25 2012 14:49 Ryuu314 wrote:
Really liked the movie. But honestly, the cops v. thugs fight scene really really really really killed the movie for me -.- It was just so.......stupid. Suspension of disbelief and all that but the thugs have 2 tanks and machine guns. The cops have a few handguns. Iunno man...that evil henchman school is really working overtime in training bad guys to always fucking miss.

Everything else I thought was amazing...specially Hathaway


Didn't you notice that batman came down on his plane and EMP'd the tanks just in time? That's why they weren't shooting.

what does EMP do against a bunch of machine guns?

Errr those machine guns operated via electronics, from inside the vehicles, you derp or what?
TheBamf
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark366 Posts
July 25 2012 11:02 GMT
#1356
On July 25 2012 19:50 SRBNikola wrote:
Thing about bane is that he even in comics is never mastermind and main villan, he is guy hired to stand up to batman.


Depends on which novels you read.
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4782 Posts
July 25 2012 11:13 GMT
#1357
On July 25 2012 20:00 eericson000 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 17:59 ArvickHero wrote:
On July 25 2012 17:06 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
On July 25 2012 14:49 Ryuu314 wrote:
Really liked the movie. But honestly, the cops v. thugs fight scene really really really really killed the movie for me -.- It was just so.......stupid. Suspension of disbelief and all that but the thugs have 2 tanks and machine guns. The cops have a few handguns. Iunno man...that evil henchman school is really working overtime in training bad guys to always fucking miss.

Everything else I thought was amazing...specially Hathaway


Didn't you notice that batman came down on his plane and EMP'd the tanks just in time? That's why they weren't shooting.

what does EMP do against a bunch of machine guns?

Errr those machine guns operated via electronics, from inside the vehicles, you derp or what?


I think his point was that the villains all had weapons like AK47s (which EMPs don't really do a lot against) whilst the police had peashooters, yet the 2 groups still charged into a fistfight...

Perhaps you shouldn't throw stones when living in a glasshouse.
Wonderstruck
Profile Joined November 2011
New Zealand16 Posts
July 25 2012 11:20 GMT
#1358
On July 25 2012 19:49 lynx.oblige wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 18:53 Prox wrote:
I'm so surprised everyone is taken by the 'sudden revealing' of Robin. 2nd time I saw the guy on screen I guessed it was him. Lol


Except if anything he's the new batman, not a robin.

Lol


Then that doesn't explain why the women handing him the package says something along the lines of "You should use your real name, I like it... Robin"
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
July 25 2012 11:23 GMT
#1359
On July 25 2012 20:20 Wonderstruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 19:49 lynx.oblige wrote:
On July 25 2012 18:53 Prox wrote:
I'm so surprised everyone is taken by the 'sudden revealing' of Robin. 2nd time I saw the guy on screen I guessed it was him. Lol


Except if anything he's the new batman, not a robin.

Lol


Then that doesn't explain why the women handing him the package says something along the lines of "You should use your real name, I like it... Robin"


What does that even mean? So his name is Robin? Are you unaware of the fact that none of the Robin's have the name Robin in their actual real names? This only confirms Robin is part of his real name.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
B.I.G.
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
3251 Posts
July 25 2012 11:34 GMT
#1360
On July 25 2012 13:04 Xxio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 13:02 GolemMadness wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:08 Xxio wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:58 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:48 Xxio wrote:
Standard Hollywood summer action movie. Clunky and pretty boring, no emotional engagement. Fight scenes were particularly bad. Only good scene is when Bane kills Daggett.



What on earth is your definition of a "good" movie??? 0_o MUST KNOW


Good movies: Amadeus, Reservoir Dogs, Hunger, Back to the Future
Great movies: 3-Iron, Twilight Samurai, 8½, Cool Hand Luke

I enjoyed TDKR, it was fun. Sometimes you just want to watch a Hollywood action/drama flick and that's fine, but it is what it is.


So only older/foreign movies can be great?


Yes, that's exactly what I said. Good job.

Well I somewhat agree with you that this movie is another blockbuster, saying that it was nothing more than that is selling it a bit short imo. The movies you mentioned are all very different from this genre of movie, and perhaps they are also simply better. But considering that 2000 - 20XX superhero movies are becoming a genre of it's own, I think we can safely say that Christopher Nolan managed to make three movies that might be the ones people will still remember in 20 years (imo).
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