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Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
July 25 2012 04:04 GMT
#1321
On July 25 2012 13:02 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 10:08 Xxio wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:58 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:48 Xxio wrote:
Standard Hollywood summer action movie. Clunky and pretty boring, no emotional engagement. Fight scenes were particularly bad. Only good scene is when Bane kills Daggett.



What on earth is your definition of a "good" movie??? 0_o MUST KNOW


Good movies: Amadeus, Reservoir Dogs, Hunger, Back to the Future
Great movies: 3-Iron, Twilight Samurai, 8½, Cool Hand Luke

I enjoyed TDKR, it was fun. Sometimes you just want to watch a Hollywood action/drama flick and that's fine, but it is what it is.


So only older/foreign movies can be great?


Yes, that's exactly what I said. Good job.
KTY
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16124 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 04:05:03
July 25 2012 04:04 GMT
#1322
On July 25 2012 12:53 WniO wrote:
well fuck havent had time to watch do to work, but just scrolling down to see what people liked/didnt and already been plot spoiled majorly from 1 goddamn page.


Why do people do this to themselves? If you don't want to be spoiled, don't read discussion threads.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
July 25 2012 04:11 GMT
#1323
On July 25 2012 13:04 Xxio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 13:02 GolemMadness wrote:
On July 25 2012 10:08 Xxio wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:58 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:48 Xxio wrote:
Standard Hollywood summer action movie. Clunky and pretty boring, no emotional engagement. Fight scenes were particularly bad. Only good scene is when Bane kills Daggett.



What on earth is your definition of a "good" movie??? 0_o MUST KNOW


Good movies: Amadeus, Reservoir Dogs, Hunger, Back to the Future
Great movies: 3-Iron, Twilight Samurai, 8½, Cool Hand Luke

I enjoyed TDKR, it was fun. Sometimes you just want to watch a Hollywood action/drama flick and that's fine, but it is what it is.


So only older/foreign movies can be great?


Yes, that's exactly what I said. Good job.


How isn't it? "Sometimes you just want to watch a Hollywood action/drama flick and that's fine, but it is what it is." "it is what it is" implies that it's not something that can be great.
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
July 25 2012 04:15 GMT
#1324
On July 25 2012 13:02 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2012 10:08 Xxio wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:58 TheAngelofDeath wrote:
On July 25 2012 09:48 Xxio wrote:
Standard Hollywood summer action movie. Clunky and pretty boring, no emotional engagement. Fight scenes were particularly bad. Only good scene is when Bane kills Daggett.



What on earth is your definition of a "good" movie??? 0_o MUST KNOW


Good movies: Amadeus, Reservoir Dogs, Hunger, Back to the Future
Great movies: 3-Iron, Twilight Samurai, 8½, Cool Hand Luke

I enjoyed TDKR, it was fun. Sometimes you just want to watch a Hollywood action/drama flick and that's fine, but it is what it is.


So only older/foreign movies can be great?


Rose tinted glasses.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Mr.Faces
Profile Joined June 2012
United States121 Posts
July 25 2012 04:21 GMT
#1325
god damn, the movie doesn't come out until the 27th here =(
I shall prevail
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
July 25 2012 05:34 GMT
#1326
Lol only took a week since release for them to add SPOILERS to the title so people don't complain about being spoilered.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
July 25 2012 05:38 GMT
#1327
Really I don't understand what people expect from a thread about a movie that has been released. It's like coming to TL and not expecting results about the latest GSL games. If you don't want to know, stay away. It's that simple.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
DjDickGrayson
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States81 Posts
July 25 2012 05:38 GMT
#1328
It was amazing.
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Yoshirawr
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada12 Posts
July 25 2012 05:46 GMT
#1329
Wasn't a massive fan of the movie. Not saying it was bad, but I really did face palm when I saw an army of cops armed with pistols charge at terrorists armed with machine guns and tanks down a narrow road as if they were spartans... then the terrorists proceeded to charge at them, and aside from a few that got shot, they all started punching each other. =/
TOloseGT
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1145 Posts
July 25 2012 05:48 GMT
#1330
I got a happier sense of finality with this ending than I had with any other trilogy. Say what you will about his plotlines, but Nolan does endings like no other.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 25 2012 05:49 GMT
#1331
Really liked the movie. But honestly, the cops v. thugs fight scene really really really really killed the movie for me -.- It was just so.......stupid. Suspension of disbelief and all that but the thugs have 2 tanks and machine guns. The cops have a few handguns. Iunno man...that evil henchman school is really working overtime in training bad guys to always fucking miss.

Everything else I thought was amazing...specially Hathaway
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 06:00:38
July 25 2012 05:51 GMT
#1332
Just got back from the theatre...

I give it a solid 8/10, if only because it's a decent movie on its own, but is a less than spectacular sequel to the greatest Batman movie to date (IMHO).

I thought the "romance" between Wayne and Tate was so shallow. The movie didn't have me invested in the relationship, so the big reveal near the end was a nice "oh-shit" moment, but it didn't hit me in my heart like Rachel's death did in TDK. The kiss at the end between Hathaway and Wayne was unnecessary and trite.
+ Show Spoiler +
Robin reveal was fucking awesome


The Wayne-Alfred drama was great (but got ruined by some asshole in the theatre). And many other little comments/nitpicks.

But the worst offense of this movie to my nerddom is:
+ Show Spoiler +
how Bane was so anticlimactically "killed/taken out." You spend the whole fucking movie setting up an intelligent, ruthless villain only to decide that you want to switch gears to a weaker villain/actor in Tate/Talia. Something about having him taken out by Catwoman and a rocket from the batcycle was just... wrong. I loved Bane by the hour and a half mark so I hope you see why it got to me. The final death scene of Talia/Tate was just god-awful. The cliche closing of the eyes, cock head away death is just laughable, mainly because she can't pull it off.


Want to read a plot-hole?
+ Show Spoiler +
How did Talia/Tate die from the crash but not Commissioner Gordon. Fuckin guy was in a large metal crate with a nuclear bomb and just climbed out like it was nothing.


I'm splitting hairs after this point. But as the DK TRILOGY, it should've been greater than the second. They should've + Show Spoiler +
kept Bane at the forefront till the last 5-10 minutes
, and I can't overlook it. After typing all of this, I lower the score to 7/10 - THAT's how much I was disappointed by the general lack of emotion I felt from watching it.

Thanks for reading. Hope you guys enjoy more than I did.

EDIT* - I've heard some great advice from a friend that probably would've increased viewing quality tenfold: Pregame before your screening by watching the first two movies. Everything feels very coherent, and while not completely without holes, raises your emotional investment in this movie. Could easily give you an extra star or two in your opinion of this film.
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
legendre20
Profile Joined November 2010
United States316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 05:55:23
July 25 2012 05:55 GMT
#1333
@SwizzY: I 100% agree with everything that you just said. I walked out of the theatre thinking the exact same things.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 25 2012 06:04 GMT
#1334
Anybody know when the Chinese release is going to be?

My googling skills are failing me. Something about a blackout of Hollywood movies, wtf?! Apparently they didn't even release TDK in China, I find this hard to believe. I really want to watch this movie soon
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
July 25 2012 06:15 GMT
#1335
damn gordon is some good po-lice
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
jahre
Profile Joined November 2008
United States95 Posts
July 25 2012 06:30 GMT
#1336
Ok...so one issue that NO ONE has brought up which is a major plot hole issue for me:

+ Show Spoiler +


HOW IN THE WORLD DOES BRUCE WAYNE COME BACK FROM THE PIT INTO GOTHAM WHEN THE CITY HAS BEEN ISOLATED!!! ALL THE EXITS ARE BEING MONITORED APPARENTLY AND YET HE SUDDENLY APPEARS ON THE BRIDGE TO SEE CATWOMAN RESCUE THAT KID?



PS: Sorry for caps.

"I am as bad as the worst, but, thank God, I am as good as the best." -Walt Whitman
VTArlock
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1763 Posts
July 25 2012 06:36 GMT
#1337
On July 25 2012 15:30 jahre wrote:
Ok...so one issue that NO ONE has brought up which is a major plot hole issue for me:

+ Show Spoiler +


HOW IN THE WORLD DOES BRUCE WAYNE COME BACK FROM THE PIT INTO GOTHAM WHEN THE CITY HAS BEEN ISOLATED!!! ALL THE EXITS ARE BEING MONITORED APPARENTLY AND YET HE SUDDENLY APPEARS ON THE BRIDGE TO SEE CATWOMAN RESCUE THAT KID?



PS: Sorry for caps.



Oh sir, I have you 1 upped....

+ Show Spoiler +
HOW DOES BATMAN LIVE IN A HOLE FOR GOD KNOWS HOW LONG UNTIL HE FIXES HIS SPINE AND CLIMBS OUT, GET BACK TO THE CITY, AND THEN .... MIRACULOUSLY...AFTER THE CITY BEING TAKEN OVER BY LITERALLY EVERYONE... HIS AIRPLANE IS STILL JUST CHILLIN ON A RANDOM ROOF.... WITH TALLER BUILDINGS IN SIGHT....

Why?
Bigtony
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1606 Posts
July 25 2012 06:38 GMT
#1338
On July 25 2012 15:04 Aerisky wrote:
Anybody know when the Chinese release is going to be?

My googling skills are failing me. Something about a blackout of Hollywood movies, wtf?! Apparently they didn't even release TDK in China, I find this hard to believe. I really want to watch this movie soon


In The Dark Knight Batman kidnaps a guy from Hong Kong. I don't think the Chinese government was a fan of that move.
Push 2 Harder
Durdenjr
Profile Joined September 2011
26 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-25 06:40:45
July 25 2012 06:39 GMT
#1339
I was underwhelmed for a lot of the same reasons already posted, still enjoyed it a bunch though. Felt like the movie was segmented into very odd movements, and it made it hard to focus on any part of them, or develop them to their potential.



Think having heath ledger alive to play the joker couldve made this 100x better if done properly, think someone posted earlier on it but ill put a few thoughts into it real quick

+ Show Spoiler +
Having joker a live would have given great counter balance to the destruction of gothem. Bane one side with this more formulated/legislative approach. Jokers pure chaos, and catwoman in the middle. With Talia dangling the strings from behind the scenes. Joker working his part from the prison until their escape and bane more so just oriented within the league of shadows. They could or could not work together, and it'd still be kinda cool. I also feel a lot of banes lines wouldve felt better from joker, but that might just be my bias for his character. Maybe to grand a scale though for 1 movie, but the idea has been expanding in my head after someone mentioned a small part of it


+ Show Spoiler +
Also finding out bane had a love story to him at the very end after being considered so dark just killed a lot of his built up character. Joker was NUTS, bane was just trying to lash out for injustice against his love? Maybe im wrong about the love aspect between him and talia and that wasnt implied and i did so improperly. It just being a protector role, but even that feels weaker to me


+ Show Spoiler +
Could probably just skip to the end and watch it a few more times though
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
July 25 2012 07:12 GMT
#1340
I would add to swizzy by saying that the philosophical arguments of TDK were part of what made it great. The Joker put forward the argument that morals were meaningless, that right and wrong would be thrown out the window as soon as it became inconvenient or even deadly to hold onto them. Two Face put forward the idea that, in the absence of right and wrong, randomness was at least fair. Batman himself holds to his one rule of no killing and insists that order can be held. None of this felt overly dry or heavy handed but rather and integral part of the plot.

TDKR didn't have that same sort of thought provoking nature to me. Still a pretty good movie though.
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